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Joseph Barnes was my great great great grandfather. Born in 1787 in Church, I believe he owned many coalmines and mills, including all of the Oakenshaw land and it is he who the square is named for. He married Mary Grimshaw and I am descended through his daughter Catherine and John Greenwood. These had children who all went off to Argentina, but my grandfather John Edwin was returned to Lancs in the early 20th century. I am a first gen New Zealander, never been to UK but would love to know more about the Barnes if anyone knows more.:)

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Hi smacdonald and welcome to Accy Web.

If your interested in Clayton, then you should try to obtain copy of the History of Clayton le Moors, it will tell you a about the Barnes's and Grimshaws, I think there are family trees as well.

Retlaw.

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wow!!!!! Hi and welcome aboard . Hope you find what your looking for .

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welcome to the site......good hunting.:)

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Thanks for your help already! Not much history over 150 years out here in NZ so find it interesting. Hope you're all having a great summer, of course we buried in winter so envious.

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Welcome to Accyweb, hope your search goes well

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Hello and welcome to the site

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greetings and welcome

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Hello smacdonald and welcome to accyweb!

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Barnes Family in Clayton le Moors.
From the History of Clayton le moors.

Retlaw.

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Hello & Welcome to AccyWeb!

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Hey Retlaw thanks so much for that piece on Joseph Barnes! Got a photo of his portrait with chimneys smoking away behind and a mill, never knew where it was till recently. Might go have a look one day. Chap I work with here in NZ from Accrington, small world. Take care. Great site by the way.

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Welcome:D

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Hi there,
I hope you get this, as I am related to the same Barnes families as yourself.
My ancestor Jacob Barnes was indeed your Joseph Barnes's brother.
I have a lot of family history relating to both Joseph and of course the other siblings.
Would enjoy sharing with you our mutual Barnes interests.

Cheers,
Robyn
Australia

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Hello and welcome.

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Just obtained the Probate of a Will of WILLIAM BARNES of Oakenshaw, Clayton-le-Moors.
It seems he owned 9 leasehold cottages in Albert, Victoria and William Streets at Oakenshaw at the time of his passing in 1866.
William and his wife Mary nee Heap had 8 children, only one of which survived to 1866.
His wife died in 1833 and his occupation was given as a Coal Dealer and Yeoman.
I can't find any notices relating to the deaths of his children except Heap Barnes (1808);
His surviving child was Ellen (1809) who married William Crawshaw around 1828.
They had 3 sons.....Philip, Jonathan and Haworth Crawshaw.
It seems from the Will, that Philip C. left his wife, Ann Nuttall and children and some data I saw stated he was found living in the USA, but I have not proven his whereabouts.
A John Brown was also described "as if a grandchild" and was living with William Barnes(Widower) in 1861 aged 17 yrs. Wheelwright. By 1871 John Brown was married. I could not find any earlier history of John Brown.
William Barnes was one of 12 children to George and Mary Barnes, he was the last surviving sibling when he died in August 1866. His Executors were his nephews, Joseph and Robert Barnes of Dyke Nook Accrington, sons of Henry Joseph Barnes and wife Ellen Birtwistle.
Anyone interested in my Barnes ancestors may like to see this.
Cheers,
Barnsie

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Intrigue - how come he was favouring young John Brown. Where was Brown's mother? I wonder if the coal chap Dick Heap, who lived in Pilot St in the 1950s and who moved into demolition ( I think ) , was a descendant of Mrs Barnes. Is the firm still going? Might William St be named after your William?