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Turtle 29-09-2014 19:39
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Some photos belonging to my late father recently surfaced after being lost for 15 years. One of them is of a soldier, WW1 I believe, seated for a portrait and also mounted. The photographer according to the back of the postcard is F.D. Shackley, Bamber Bridge, Nr. Preston. I have no idea who this man is, (although he must be related to my father in some way) and there is no one left alive who would know. All I can do is play detective, and ask for advice from those more knowledgeable than me. My father's family come from Salford, Stockport, or Tring areas. I know this isn't Accrington related, but I know there are one or two Accy Web members who are very well versed in WW1.

I looked up WW1 cap badges on the web, and think it might be the Cheshire regiment. Can anyone help me?

Eric 29-09-2014 22:21
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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 1119143)
Some photos belonging to my late father recently surfaced after being lost for 15 years. One of them is of a soldier, WW1 I believe, seated for a portrait and also mounted. The photographer according to the back of the postcard is F.D. Shackley, Bamber Bridge, Nr. Preston. I have no idea who this man is, (although he must be related to my father in some way) and there is no one left alive who would know. All I can do is play detective, and ask for advice from those more knowledgeable than me. My father's family come from Salford, Stockport, or Tring areas. I know this isn't Accrington related, but I know there are one or two Accy Web members who are very well versed in WW1.

I looked up WW1 cap badges on the web, and think it might be the Cheshire regiment. Can anyone help me?
Try Retlaw ... give him a PM ...

DaveinGermany 30-09-2014 05:10
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It appears to be 2 different people, the first because of the star shape could well be the Cheshires, what does the shoulder flash say? The second because of the size & shape resembles an RA cap badge. Stil,l as Eric says try Retlaw as WWI is his speciality.

gpick24 30-09-2014 06:09
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"ASC" on his shoulder DiG

Turtle 30-09-2014 11:34
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Thank you Eric - I had thought of sending a PM to Retlaw, but didn't seem to be able to send him the photos that way. Hopefully he'll see them this way.

DiG - yes, I see what you mean - there may be two people here. Ah, the mystery deepens!

GPick: yes, that is 'ASC' on his shoulder. Is that Army Service Corps? One website suggested that this refers to someone who drove horses pulling equipment rather than cavalry.

Margaret Pilkington 30-09-2014 12:04
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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 1119190)
Thank you Eric - I had thought of sending a PM to Retlaw, but didn't seem to be able to send him the photos that way. Hopefully he'll see them this way.
I don't think there is a way to send pictures in a PM.

cashman 30-09-2014 12:47
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I cant send pics anyway at all, Techno useless.:eek:

Eric 30-09-2014 13:17
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Is that Army Service Corps?
No ... it's Ally Sloper's Cavalry;):D

Eric 30-09-2014 13:25
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And just in case anyone is interested in stories about identifying those who fought in the First World War, here's an aside:

WWI Canadian soldiers' remains identified - Canada - CBC News

Retlaw 30-09-2014 15:37
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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 1119143)
Some photos belonging to my late father recently surfaced after being lost for 15 years. One of them is of a soldier, WW1 I believe, seated for a portrait and also mounted. The photographer according to the back of the postcard is F.D. Shackley, Bamber Bridge, Nr. Preston. I have no idea who this man is, (although he must be related to my father in some way) and there is no one left alive who would know. All I can do is play detective, and ask for advice from those more knowledgeable than me. My father's family come from Salford, Stockport, or Tring areas. I know this isn't Accrington related, but I know there are one or two Accy Web members who are very well versed in WW1.

I looked up WW1 cap badges on the web, and think it might be the Cheshire regiment. Can anyone help me?
Don't know who he is, but his cap badge looks like Scots Guards, His shoulder tab looks like R.S.G.

Turtle 30-09-2014 16:14
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Thank you Retlaw! And all those who chimed in. :)
I'll enjoy following these leads.

DaveinGermany 30-09-2014 18:14
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If it is ASC (Army Service Corp) forerunners of the RASC - RCT - RLC, you're looking at cart 'osses, general transport & logistic support. Not exactly glamorous but most definitely essential to keep the 'Eroes fed watered & stocked with ammunition. As to the other fella on the 'Oss, looks like a gun bunny cap badge & the white lanyard. :)

gpick24 30-09-2014 18:30
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Don`t you lot know how to zoom in on a pic?:rolleyes::)

DaveinGermany 30-09-2014 18:40
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Don`t you lot know how to zoom in on a pic?:rolleyes::)
Alright smartarse! :D I used the on site one & it only let me enlarge it once, so while you're at it, have a skeg at the cap badge if you'd be so good & pop that up. :)

gpick24 30-09-2014 18:55
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Not much detail on the cap badges especially the mounted one, to zoom in on pics, click on attached thumbnail, then click on the pic to open it in a new tab (or right click and click "open link in new tab"), hold down ctrl button and tap + to zoom in.

Turtle 30-09-2014 18:58
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1119236)
If it is ASC (Army Service Corp) forerunners of the RASC - RCT - RLC, you're looking at cart 'osses, general transport & logistic support. Not exactly glamorous but most definitely essential to keep the 'Eroes fed watered & stocked with ammunition. As to the other fella on the 'Oss, looks like a gun bunny cap badge & the white lanyard. :)
Hah hah - do you believe it, I had to google 'gun bunny'? According to the Urban Dictionary, it's: 'a sarcastic name that soldiers will call other soldiers who handle artillery in the military'. Thanks DiG

DaveinGermany 30-09-2014 19:01
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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1119242)
to zoom in on pics, click on attached thumbnail, then click on the pic to open it in a new tab (or right click and click "open link in new tab"), hold down ctrl button and tap + to zoom in.
Okay I admit to being a dumbarse! I've used that trick before but didn't even think to try it this time round. :rolleyes:

Turtle 30-09-2014 19:03
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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1119205)
No ... it's Ally Sloper's Cavalry;):D
Ever the turtle, me. I thought you were just taking the Mickey, Eric. Then I googled Ally Sloper. So it's educate the turtle day! Where else but on Accy Web. Thanks :)

Gordon Booth 30-09-2014 19:17
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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1119242)
Not much detail on the cap badges especially the mounted one, to zoom in on pics, click on attached thumbnail, then click on the pic to open it in a new tab (or right click and click "open link in new tab"), hold down ctrl button and tap + to zoom in.
You had me worried there,gpick!
I enlarged the photo and it worked. Then came out of it and the whole of Accyweb had been magnified so I could only see about a quarter of a line. Don't ask me how I did it.
Took me a few minutes to try Ctrl and -. Panic over!

gpick24 30-09-2014 19:20
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Ctrl and 0 puts it back to normal size. Doesn't happen on my browser, you can magnify one tab and the others stay as they were.

DaveinGermany 30-09-2014 19:27
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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 1119143)
although he must be related to my father in some way
Grandfather & Great uncle?

gpick24 30-09-2014 19:27
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Perhaps re-scanning the photos in as high dpi as possible, then crop around the cap badges before re-sizing for the forum might give more detail.

Turtle 30-09-2014 19:33
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Thanks gPick. - I'll give that a go tomorrow :)

Turtle 30-09-2014 19:44
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1119252)
Grandfather & Great uncle?
Hi paternal grandfather was a Market Gardener on The Moss in Ashton, so I'm ruling him out. His maternal grandfather is more likely, (he was a carter) but he would have been too old being born in 1858. So I'm looking at uncles from that line, also working with horses.

Turtle 01-10-2014 14:10
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I scanned the photos using 600 dpi, then futzed around in Photoshop to sharpen the images, but I don't think they're much better. Maybe the one of the mounted guy is a bit better.

I'm now thinking the mounted man is Royal Artillery, and the seated man Cheshire regiment, but can't be certain. Any opinions? I'd like to upload the photos I found of WW1 cap badges, but I think it's against the rules to upload internet images. Or am I wrong?

Thanks for all your help on this. Accy Web is tops in my book :thankya:

DaveinGermany 01-10-2014 15:20
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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 1119332)
I'm now thinking the mounted man is Royal Artillery, and the seated man Cheshire regiment,
Thought it was ASC for the seated fella & the geezer on the 'Oss, a drop shot. :)


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