Roy Frankland
 

I have lost contact with Roy Frankland, who will now be about 93yrs if still alive. He was a fine cricketer, playing for Accrington. His house in Somerset (?) was called 'Thorneyholme'. Anyone in touch or can give me news on him ?

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Hi Bob

I joined the Forum today and wondered if my father's cricketing past was mentioned. It seems you were hoping to contact him.

Both he and Mum have moved into residential care in their own small town in Tisbury, Wiltshire. They both have dementia and have been looked after for nearly a year now.

I have spoken to you on the phone about your Accy books. I bought one for him and he ordered a couple more. Actually you phoned me about Grammar School Old Boys. I was there for a few weeks only and didn't feel connected enough to sign up.

Dad will be thrilled that you were enquiring after him and I will pass on any message you care to send. You were correct- he is 93!

In just the last few days I have succumbed to nostalgia and started wondering about my Peel Park classmates. I was there 51-57 with the likes of David Lloyd, Jack Duckworth, Alan Erling Mitton. The latter has or had Old Boys links (President?)

From my first look at the forum (today) it appears that between you and Margaret Pilkington anything Accy can be tracked down!!

Best wishes
Paul

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My thanks for this Paul - email on its way. I will copy Alan Mitton into it. He did a year ( 1959) at the Tech before getting a free transfer to the Grammar School. Dvid LLoyd didn't attend

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David Lloyd ? Wonder what happened to him ?

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He's batting for Sky now. He is also batting for t'Stanley, one of several local chaps on the board.

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Hi there Paul,
Just wondering if your Father was a teacher at Woodnook Secondry School between 1954 and 1959)? I remember having a Mr. Frankland teaching us geography, also taking part in learning us about cricket alonside Milton Suthers.

Cheers

Philip Kenyon
Late Belfield Rd.

Now living in Switzerland since 1967

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I do know about 'Bumble' Bob. I was being flippant. interested to read Milton Suthers name mentioned. He came from Hapton like me.

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Hi there Rowlf,
Yes Milton Suthers was our sports teacher at Woodnook CS. I could point to the house where he lived, but no longer sure of the name of the street, could have been Corporation street?

Cheers
Phil

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Please confirm that you have had an email from me about the Old Boys, Paul

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No idea where he lived in later life Phil just remember him in Hapton.

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Hi there Phillip - Yes Dad was at Woodnook until 1957 when he got a Deputy Headship in the Cotswolds at Bourton on the Water. After 3 years of that he became head of a new school in Tisbury near Salisbury. He is still alive and will talk to anyone about cricket, like it or not! Yes: Geography, History? (Social studies?) were his subjects.
Nice to chat.. sorry I didn't log on earlier.

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Yes Bob - message received, understood but not acknowledged- sorry.

Will probably see Dad this weekend. You wanted his details, school service record and neck size? Actually at 93 he's past riotous social gathering now.

I will show him the Members Register if I am permitted to print it? I have reconsidered my eligibility for joining and found it woefully lacking. Sorry and all that.

The Jack Duckworth I mentioned would have started in 57 at Peel Park as I did, he was very pally with David Lloyd and came from Avenue Parade area, I believe. He may not have transferred to Grammar School. Alan Mitton might know. He was always Erling on the school register as I remember!

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Hi Paul,
Please give him my very best regards, and tell him how much I enjoyed his lessons, although I'm not sure he will remember me.
Just as an insight I was very good at cricket myself.

Cheers

Philip Kenyon
Late Belfield Road

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Bob - I spotted my own error. I started at Peel Park in 1951 not 57 as stated earlier. I believe Jack Duckworth started at same time. Perhaps you are not too fussed if he didn't go to Accy Grammar. Its all a bit fuzzy now but good to stick to the facts where possible.

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Hi Philip (1 l only) I will pass on your kind thoughts and mention your cricketing prowess.

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Hi Philip

Sadly Dad didn't make a connection to your name today but Milton Suthers' name didn't really engage either - sorry. Did you go on any of the school camps? If so we might have crossed paths.

He was pleased to hear you enjoyed his lessons.

Best wishes

Paul

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Am I correct in thinking that Roy became a pro cricketer? Did he play for any team other than Accrington ?

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Hi Paul,
Thanks for giving your Dad my regards. Not surprised that he didn't remember me, after all I was only one of thousands of children that he must have had contact with, and he was only one person that I knew.
As regards to school camps, yes I went to two of them:
Staithes on the Yorkshire coast, and
Kessingland I think it was on the east Anglian coast, but not sure.

Cheers

Philip

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Hi Philip

I was at Kessingland. Romney Hythe to Dymchurch miniature railway ran past the camp. I can hear the whistle now. I was into trainspotting then - I must have been 7 or 8 so around 1954-5? I loved hanging over the Queens Road bridge and the one on Highams playing field near the cricket ground.

Trains were something in those days; even the "mile long" coal- pulling work horses, belching out dirty smoke and grey tinted steam, but more excitingly the dark green and polished brass of fast, named passenger engines. One regular was "Vernon" - I believe it was one of several Admirals. Didn't they look great on the viaduct?

I imagine you found Switzerland different in many ways.

All the best

Paul

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Hi Bob

I think Dad did do some sort of guest appearance near Blackpool if my recollection is anywhere near accurate. He did not enjoy its mention - he didn't come up with the goods as far as I can tell and I think he might have been dropped. No use asking him now but you might get to the truth as it may have been in your patch.

Cheers

Paul

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There may be somebody on where who is associated with the club and can come up with the info on his career. I saw him playing c1954

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Hi Paul,

It would seem that our paths did cross at Kessingland, sorry but the only thing that I vividly remember were the salmon fish swimming upstream and leaping over the smaller types of waterfalls.
Train spotting:
A school friend of mine did a lot of train spotting as a kid, in fact I read somewhere that he still does, and is (I think) the president of the “Train Spotters Club” of Accrington & district. His name is Albert Wilkinson.
Switzerland:
After arriving on the 1st September 1967 it was indeed a cultural shock in some ways such as:
- The language. Not many people could/would speak English only Swiss German
- The longer working hours from a 40 hour per week to a 44 hour per week
- The resentment to “Foreigners” which you were made to feel on a regular basis
After a while however and after getting acclimatised things got a lot better:
- Got married 1968
- Our Daughter being born in 1972
- Speaking the language
- In around 1971 it became a 40 hour per week
- Climbing the ladder into a managerial position (After Sales Service Manager) on a worldwide basis
- Taking out Swiss nationality
-
All in all I wouldn’t contemplate ever moving away from here, in particular at my age (now 72).

A very merry Christmas and all the best to your family in 2016

Cheers

Philip

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How amazing,he was one of my teachers at Woodnook c.s. school,I loved his classes,he probably wouldn't remember me I was there from 1953 - 1957 & my name was Irene Davies,give him my regards please

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I will give him your regards Irene. If he doesn't remember you he will be very pleased to hear you enjoyed his lessons. I will tell him also that you weren't too upset when Bob (Mr to you) Davies fell off his chair. I bet your desk lid popped up!

Hope you have a good Christmas and New Year.

Paul

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Thanks for the potted history Philip. Sounds like a difficult start in Switzerland but you obviously turned out awlreet, being a Manager an all.

I don't remember seeing any salmon whilst at the school camp but at 4 yrs younger than you we probably noticed different things.

Greetings to you and yours for Christmas and New Year. Good chance of snow I imagine!

Paul

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The Albert Wilkinson who Landhusweg mentions is an officer of the Blackburn Model Railway Society and chairman of the Hyndburn Local History Society. He is an authority of the history of Ossie. He wrote 'Oswaldtwistle Observed' which I published a few years ago. He is an Accrington Grammar School Old Boy.

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I am thinking this is the same Mr Frankland who was my History teacher and lived at the time thornyholme road.

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I think Paul has got his wires crossed. Dymchurch & Hythe are both in Kent. Kessingland is at Lowestoft, Suffolk.

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Sadly, Roy died about a year ago. His house was called Thorneyholme.

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They certainly are,went down yon with the school, and on the Romney,Hythe,@ Dymchurch railway, stayed St Marys Bay, defo no Kessingland down yon.;)

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Thanks for the geography lesson Rowlf and Cashman. I have been to Kessingland but not the one in Kent obviously. That may have been another school holiday and I was only eight or so. Funny how you can remember incorrect - sorry- alternative facts all your life until some clever dick(s) puts you right!

Fireman 32 is correct - Dad did teach history and some geography, which didn't rub off on me it seems. He died in October last year. Nowt lasts forever.

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Obvious to me you are the clever dick.:rolleyes:

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Quite right Olly. I live in Hythe Kent. 100m in front of my flat is the Hythe station. for the said railway.

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I know mate, but put somebody right and get called a clever dick for it. only 1 of those i can see.

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Not certain if I have offended you chaps - apologies all round if so. I thought it was in keeping with general Accringtonian banter, but as I haven't lived there for 59 years I may have overstepped the mark.

I will bow out now - don't want to upset anyone. Cheerio.

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Dont moider oer it Paul, tis no big deal,;)