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garinda 27-04-2005 03:36

Con. candidate?
 
On Monday night a member of James Mawdsley's Conservative team called at my house. l thanked them but explained l wouldn't be voting Tory, and they left me with their leaflet.

This is a direct quote from the back page, l'm sorry l can't scan it but l'm sure others have the same pamphlet.

'Pensioners

.... l am fighting against sinister demands for euthanasia, aware that what has begun as "voluntary" in other countries has next become compulsary.'

This seemed rather strange and alarmist, as l know of no country in the world were euthanasia is compulsary, do you?

I emailed Mr Mawdsley 22 hours ago asking for more details, l have not had a reply yet, if he does l will post it.

cashman 27-04-2005 08:09

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i am not aware of compulsary euthanasia in any country but perhaps someones thinking of bringing it in in this country for conservitives.

WillowTheWhisp 27-04-2005 08:19

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That is a very sinister way of praying on people's potential fears. :mad:

garinda 27-04-2005 08:25

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Willow that's what l thought.

Still no reply from Mr Mawdsley as yet, which is again a bit slow as the email l sent wasn't cheeky and l wished him well.

Perhaps because my email address is garinda, he's been in here and thought it was a set up job?

Doug 27-04-2005 08:28

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Compulsory euthanasia does not exist in any country, however, terms and actions like genocide, ethnic cleansing, and mass murder do and that’s what any form of compulsory euthanasia would amount to? I think that you have a candidate here who is ill advised and alarmist. Scaring the sh*t out of the grey voter, the sick and infirm is abuse and should be dealt with as such.

cashman 27-04-2005 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
That is a very sinister way of praying on people's potential fears. :mad: .

havent yet seen the leaflet willow,but if thats what it says it does'nt surprise me- i was taught 35 years ago that conservative means= conserve for oneself.

T.C. 27-04-2005 12:55

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Mr Mawdsley must be an absolute SICKO. It is that sought of garbage aimed, at us geriatrics, thinking we will turn away from our roots,but it just makes us more determined.
I'll be looking forward to the reply, Garinda.

Tealeaf 27-04-2005 13:10

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I suspect that 15 months locked up in in a Burmese nick might well have messed up his mind. I'm amazed that the Hyndburn Tory party did not pick up on this nonsense when they went ahead with publication of his electoral address; and even more surprising is that they adopted this knucklehead to be their candidate in the first place.

By my reckoning, there are now two ex-jailbirds in the line-up to be the next Hyndburn MP.

I wonder what Graham Jones has to say about it? Will we ever know?

garinda 27-04-2005 15:59

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Still no reply to my email.

I sent it to his email address which said it would give more information, which was
[email protected]
It doesn't show a great deal of efficency in my book.

By the way in the same pamphlet it quotes Lord [David] Alton saying,
"James is one of the most outstanding young people Britain has produced since World War ll"

Yeah right, ok!!!!!!

Tealeaf 27-04-2005 16:22

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He is probably to busy writing the sequel to his autobigraphy to bother about replying.

Billy Casper 27-04-2005 16:24

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It is a secret weapon Labour is waiting to spring on us to solve pension issues !!!

Neil 27-04-2005 17:23

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I posted this leaflet on here a while ago.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...-leaflet-1.jpg

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...-leaflet-2.jpg

mani 27-04-2005 18:04

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conservatives do seem to takin a great tactical ploy that the bnp often use

the go the whole way and scare the **** outta them publicity...

lindsay ormerod 27-04-2005 18:15

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You missed your chance to ask "James" today,he was targetting the poor folks of Accy with leaflets and even more scary....Anne Widdecombe! Showing her common touch she went into Gregg's,not sure which was her pasty of choice though.One of a vast pack of young Conservatives thrust a leaflet at me when I was checking my window display,there were a lot of them and it made me wonder aloud what the collective noun is for a lot of Conservatives,I cannot repeat the answers that my staff gave!;)

park381 27-04-2005 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Still no reply to my email.

I sent it to his email address which said it would give more information, which was
[email protected]

Is that not his own web site, and not the official conservative one, may be that's why you have not had a reply, just a thought.

cashman 27-04-2005 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mani
conservatives do seem to takin a great tactical ploy that the bnp often use

the go the whole way and scare the **** outta them publicity...

saw a documentary many years ago it was saying that seinor conservatives funded sir oswald mosleys blackshirts,i was shocked and thought someone would be sued for making such a claim, guess what complete silence from the tory government of the time.decide for yourself i did.

garinda 27-04-2005 21:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381
Is that not his own web site, and not the official conservative one, may be that's why you have not had a reply, just a thought.

That's the email address on the same pamphlet, saying any more information contact him there.

Still no reply. Any Tories here who can shed any light, or at least warn him to hurry up?

Doug 27-04-2005 21:53

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Anne Widdecombe! What a perfect image of womanhood...................She should get the male vote on side. By hell, the lust her image congers up in the heart of a full blooded Englishman..............Thank **** I’m a Celt.

WillowTheWhisp 27-04-2005 22:49

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You could catch him in person tomorrow night Garinda.


Baroness Cox of Queensbury and James Mawdsley will be speaking at St. Augustine’s Church, Huncoat. 28th April 7:30pm.

Maybe he's out and about so much he just never gets time to read his emails.

cashman 27-04-2005 23:30

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don't know about that willow probably reads and QUOTES favourable e-mails after all its election time

garinda 28-04-2005 01:49

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After nearly 48 hours after first e-mailing Mr Mawdsly and geting no reply to my question of which countries have compulsary euthanasia l've sent another e-mail.

Again politely l've asked for an answer or at least the courtesy of a reply.

I also pointed out l've posted this here, and we are over 2,300 registered members of his hoped for electorate.

I'll keep you posted of any further developments.

Perhaps he was better at illegally entering Burma than answering his e-mails?

garinda 28-04-2005 12:15

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The power of Accy Web?

Just had a reply from James Mawdsley.

The country where he thinks voluntary euthanasia has become compulsary is the Netherlands! He says that recently 600 elderly people were killed without their consent. He also says 23 babies were also killed there, again without their consent[?] No substantiating details were given.

He then went on to talk about one couple/one child policies in China resulting in abortions. Mention was also made about Nazis and concentration camps?

I'm afraid his answer hasn't satisfied my initial reaction, that the original quote about pensioners facing compulsary euthanasia was at best scare mongering and at worse a total lie, as euthanasia is not compulsary in the Netherlands.

Just to show l didn't start this thread because of political bias, a funny flyer came through my door this morning. Clive J. Fisher of the Liberal Democrats says, also about pensioners, that he will abolish 'pole' tax for them!

I've said before l don't think spelling is that important to getting your point across, but you'd have thought someone would have proof read a published leaflet.

Tories will save pensioners from death camps, and the Liberal Democrats will let them pole dance, free of charge. :)

Neil 28-04-2005 13:28

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I thought the poll tax was replaced years ago by the council tax.
So the spelling is wrong and the tax is years out of date.

WillowTheWhisp 28-04-2005 13:34

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Really fills you full of confidence doesn't it? :rolleyes:

Acrylic-bob 28-04-2005 14:03

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Holland has had unofficial assisted suicide for the past thirty years. On April 14, 2001, to encourage doctors to report assisted suicides without fear of prosecution, the practice was given the sanction of law. It is not compulsory, it never was and there is absolutely no prospect of it ever being so.

James Mawdsley is needlessly alarming the elderly and the vulnerable in the hope of securing their votes. How can anyone consider that such disgracefully irresponsible behaviour is likley to encourage the trust of the electorate? And , which is worse, how can anyone publish such arrant nonsense and expect that the public will be decieved by it?

PurpleLass 28-04-2005 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

James Mawdsley is needlessly alarming the elderly and the vulnerable in the hope of securing their votes. How can anyone consider that such disgracefully irresponsible behaviour is likley to encourage the trust of the electorate? And , which is worse, how can anyone publish such arrant nonsense and expect that the public will be decieved by it?

You've answered your own question. If he didn't believe that it was likely to encourage the trust of the electorate he wouldn't have published it.

Acrylic-bob 28-04-2005 14:50

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The question was intended to be rhetorical and an expression of exasperation at the crass stupidity of politicians.

entwisi 28-04-2005 15:08

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And all this goes to prove that there isn't one of them I trust to govern this great nation.

Where did we let it go so wrong?

JohnW 28-04-2005 15:17

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[QUOTE=entwisi]And all this goes to prove that there isn't one of them I trust to govern this great nation. QUOTE]

There it is in a nutshell. It doesn't matter what they call themselves regarding with which party they are aligned. None of them are trustworthy. The only prerequisite to becoming a politician is that one has to be adept at lying.

garinda 28-04-2005 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi
And all this goes to prove that there isn't one of them I trust to govern this great nation.

Where did we let it go so wrong?


About the time of the Romans, when Boudicca [Boadicea,] the original Iron Lady last kicked some ass!

lindsay ormerod 28-04-2005 15:58

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I think you should take this one to the Observer Garinda,let them know that our prospective MP is a scare-monger who can't get his facts right and doesn't reply to e-mails from his potential electorate.Notice that the latest pamphlet from him this morning contains a photo of him and wifey having their wedding blessed by our recently deceased Pope. What a fortuitous bit of timing.:rolleyes:

park381 28-04-2005 20:09

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Was that a limited edition pamphlet Lindsey, cause I ain't seen one of those, and living on the swings, I thought I may have had one delivered by hand. :confused:

garinda 28-04-2005 20:18

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No l had the same one, l'm obviously still seen as a potential Tory voter!

Their wedding blessing by the Pope was a lovely picture, and l'm going to frame it and put it on my mantlepiece- such a nice young couple.

I was so amazed at the lies/scare-mongering l was going to contact the Observer, but missed this week's deadline and next week's edition will be too late. :(

I did ask Mr Mawdsley to join our happy band of webbers if he has the time, as l'm sure he could enlighten us more with his take on political truths.

Margaret Pilkington 28-04-2005 20:28

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I haven't seen hide nor hair of any political canvassers.........and I'm one of those rare breed.......a floating voter.
After the political shennanigans of the last couple of days I have come to the conclusion that they are all a shower of you know what!

I'm sharpening my pin.

entwisi 28-04-2005 20:31

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Margaret, I'm with you. I would love to spend 10 mins with each of them. The prolem is I think I would still struggle to find one worthy of my tick.

Ian

garinda 28-04-2005 20:36

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Marg l have a sack full I'll send over for you, as l've now finished my papier mache bust of Sophia Loren l've made with all the utter garbage re: the election l've had through my door.
Gxxxx

park381 28-04-2005 21:13

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You are all very lucky/unlucky to get all them pamphlets through the letterbox not had any, oh sorry got one from the Lib Dems. So I still can't make my mind up, like you said Ian, would be nice to spend 10mins with each one asking questions.

garinda 28-04-2005 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381
You are all very lucky/unlucky to get all them pamphlets through the letterbox not had any, oh sorry got one from the Lib Dems. So I still can't make my mind up, like you said Ian, would be nice to spend 10mins with each one asking questions.

park381, no leaflets?

You've really confused me now, as l thought l had eliminated you down on Park Lane to two people. One being a lady whose name begins with M, the other was Ken Hargreaves!

PurpleLass 29-04-2005 07:35

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I received the Conservative leaflet last night and there was absolutely nothing in it about euthanasia. I read it and reread it but couldn't find anything - did see the nice picture of him getting blessed by the pope though.

What was most worrying and I'm not sure what this means - the leaflet was delivered at the same time as the BNP one and the Labour one, are they planning a coalition?

WillowTheWhisp 29-04-2005 08:37

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I think it probably means that a "leaflet dropper" was delivering them rather than a party representative.

How odd that your leaflet doesn't have the euthanasia reference which Garinda's has. (back page under "pensioners"?) I haven't even had a leaflet so can't check.

yerself 29-04-2005 08:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnW
The only prerequisite to becoming a politician is that one has to be adept at lying.

Hence the old joke:

Q: How can you tell when a politician's lying?

A: His mouth's open.

garinda 29-04-2005 10:25

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I got both Tory leaflets.

The one with the Papal blessing, and the one featuring the quote about compulsary euthanasia,[ which featured James and the fragrant Elizabeth sat on a dry stone wall, her wearing a Donny Osmond hat, and was called 'James Mawdsley- Fighting for Hyndburn.' ]

garinda 29-04-2005 11:24

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High public profile.

Been imprisoned.

Published author.

'Fragrant' wife.

Liar.

Oh, it really isn't the new Jeffey and Mary Show is it?

Acrylic-bob 29-04-2005 11:29

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Interesting point about Labour's election leaflets, did you know that the party offered candidates two styles of leaflet? Same message on both but one with, and one without, the smiling face of Tony Blair.

cashman 29-04-2005 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
Interesting point about Labour's election leaflets, did you know that the party offered candidates two styles of leaflet? Same message on both but one with, and one without, the smiling face of Tony Blair.

thats interesting ab not really surprising as tonys about as popular as a fart in a spacesuit

park381 29-04-2005 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

You've really confused me now,

Told you before I live in the trees facing park lane :D

garinda 29-04-2005 17:30

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ln the interest of fairness l've scanned the Labour bumf as well.

Only trouble was they were so slick nothing of any interest came to my attention, including their policies.

Interestingly the BNP bumf said they opposed the Panoptician, and supported the memory of the Accrington Pals!

lf you hear a funny noise it's my Grandpa spinning in his grave in France.

yerself 29-04-2005 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381
Told you before I live in the trees facing park lane :D

Are you a squirrel?

garinda 29-04-2005 17:43

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l think he must be, he's been watching me from a tree every time l go to my Mum's, and throws his nuts at me!

Is it a tail, or a brush that you have l can see hanging down from the tree?

park381 29-04-2005 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself
Are you a squirrel?

Yeah, that's me, ask garinda.

park381 29-04-2005 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
l think he must be, he's been watching me from a tree every time l go to my Mum's, and throws his nuts at me!

Is it a tail, or a brush that you have l can see hanging down from the tree?

No it's a brush, I help clean the park up every morning, all those cans and bottles

PurpleLass 29-04-2005 18:07

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I read that bit about the BNP opposing the Panopticon and thought it would do the Panopticon project a world of good. If that mad lot oppose it then it must be worth considering.

Uncle Mick 29-04-2005 20:49

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I heard the fragrent James on Radio Lancashire at lunchtime being interviewed by the political rottwieler Brett Davison. He was askeda question about where new offshore prision ships will be sited. He said he did`nt know and could he ring back with the answer! Now is this a candidate refreshingly free from party spin or a bloke who does`nt know what he`s doing? I`m still a floating voter.....

lindsay ormerod 29-04-2005 21:00

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He was also blissfully unaware of Michael Howard's flying visit to Hyndburn this week!He is not best pleased about this according to the Obby !That's the kind of communication and organisation that would inspire you to vote for James[NOT!]

Uncle Mick 29-04-2005 21:07

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Ladies and gentlemen the gormless candidate

KiTChener 29-04-2005 21:41

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Is it too late for me to apply?? Even tho' I've only got Sundays free?? (And I've also offerred to help build a roof at the IES, so that cuts my time down by another 50%)..... I could probably still spend more time on constituancy matters than the current lot!!

WillowTheWhisp 29-04-2005 21:52

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I got his leaflet today. The one with the Pope. (not Greg)

garinda 30-04-2005 09:50

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See l told you she was wearing a Donny Osmond hat, Elizabeth not James.

PurpleLass 30-04-2005 17:32

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I finally received my leaflet today that included the euthanasia stuff. I've also just received the Dorothy Westell leaflet. I must be at the back end of everyone's deliver runs. I'm still waiting for some LibDem or UKIP stuff - anyone else got theirs yet?

Sara 30-04-2005 17:37

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Can't wait for a candidate to knock at my door, any party will do. I work in a school and there is 14 teacher assistant jobs, one teacher and a number of welfare staff to be made redundant, and they all profess to Education been a priority. Also i want to ask why does my husband have to travel a 14 miles to a dentist, and why is EMA not open to all college students. Oh the list is endless. By the time i've finished our address will probably be black listed, never to hear a party candidate knocking at the front door again.


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