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Driller 24-05-2005 01:14

Extremist Web
 
Just quick appraisal of the site .. extreme views on the unemployed, extreme views on the asian people in the community, posts that attack the least protected in the community, badgering of anyone who does not share thier opinions, members who regulary post extremist views from the national press, members who make up extremist propaganda, the use of bad language that the moderators accept if it in their own intrests...

thats me banned

garinda 24-05-2005 01:42

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As a member of at least three of the above catorgries l totally disagree.

Get a grip on life and not on your plonker.

chav1 24-05-2005 01:44

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hey driller heres 20p now go ring somone who gives a sh1t

garinda 24-05-2005 01:46

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As someone who is quite open in my differences to the vast majority of people on here, ie: non hetrosexual, disabled, unable to work as well as being a fairly gorgeous arts graduate, l have found nothing but a warm welcome from the members on here.

So there!!!!!! ;)

chav1 24-05-2005 01:48

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garinda disagrees with me on almost everything but we still be friends

i think ...?

garinda 24-05-2005 01:52

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Lol, we've never disagreed on anything except that you should be marrying me instead of Pixie! ;)

chav1 24-05-2005 01:59

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were only getting wed so she can upgrade her surname lol

garinda 24-05-2005 01:59

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Surely this thread was not started by the same Driller who came into the chatroom the other weekend and called me a pak-i b-itch? Then got abusive with everybody, full of sexist, homophobic abuse?

Well, well, small world!!!!!!

staggeringman 24-05-2005 02:01

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have you seen a racist comment on this site?have you seen a blatent view on the unemployed,everyone does share there views,where are aLL THESE EXTREMIST VIEWS,and where have you seen f..k o.. on a page are thread on the accy web, good night!

garinda 24-05-2005 02:08

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Lol, after callimg me a pak-i b1tch he did ask if l had a webcam so he could see my punanni!!!!!!

l of course kept my sari down.

chav1 24-05-2005 02:56

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just to show theres no hard feelings i made an avatar for driller
http://www.a1stationery.fsnet.co.uk/images/ring2a.gif

yup a little prick :D

if you read his posts you will see that they are mostly abusive towards other members ie: calls acrylic bob a bastard , me a ****** etc

sorry fellow accy webers but i have met this breed before

driller is showing classic sighns of HAVENO syndrome

haveno girlfriend

haveno friends

haveno life


i would love to stick around and argue the toss with driller but i would have to lower my self to the intelgence of an idiot and he would beat me on experience

entwisi 24-05-2005 05:29

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Otherwise known as a Troll, Please don't feed the trolls, they go away if you don't talk to them.

Less 24-05-2005 05:30

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Originally Posted by Driller

thats me banned

I doubt that you will be banned for that driller, please come back and explain to us how we can also use wit, charm and sophisticated powers of persuasion to make friends and influence people!
You are a Master at it, I bet your surname is Bates & that you are a Top top level banker.


chav1 24-05-2005 08:19

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use wit, charm and sophisticated powers of persuasion to make friends and influence people!
strong with the force is this one :D

chav1 24-05-2005 08:24

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lol i think i will thet the smileys do the talking from now on

:signthis: :signthis: :signthis: :signthis: :signthis: :signthis:

cashman 24-05-2005 09:48

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whats extremist about the site driller? is it someone that doesnt agree with you?is it someone that speaks their mind? GET A LIFE !

Driller 24-05-2005 09:50

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Originally Posted by garinda
Surely this thread was not started by the same Driller who came into the chatroom the other weekend and called me a pak-i b-itch? Then got abusive with everybody, full of sexist, homophobic abuse?

Well, well, small world!!!!!!

LOL wern't me guv

Driller 24-05-2005 10:00

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Originally Posted by cashman
whats extremist about the site driller? is it someone that doesnt agree with you?is it someone that speaks their mind? GET A LIFE !

I would say branding babies as "bastards" and calling for parents to be sterilized pretty extreme..but I suppose Himmler had the same outlook on getting a "life"

lettie 24-05-2005 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Driller
I would say branding babies as "bastards" and calling for parents to be sterilized pretty extreme..but I suppose Himmler had the same outlook on getting a "life"


What is wrong with using the correct language for a fatherless child? This term has developed other meanings in recent years, and unpleasant as it sounds it is still the correct terminology. As for sterilisation, everybody is entitled to their opinion, it's not my opinion but I have to say that I have noticed that the people least able to be able to bring up children to a decent social standard are never infertile. That's why social services in this country are run off their feet.

Driller 24-05-2005 10:29

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Originally Posted by lettie
What is wrong with using the correct language for a fatherless child? This term has developed other meanings in recent years, and unpleasant as it sounds it is still the correct terminology. As for sterilisation, everybody is entitled to their opinion, it's not my opinion but I have to say that I have noticed that the people least able to be able to bring up children to a decent social standard are never infertile. That's why social services in this country are run off their feet.

and so you agree with calling babies whom have had no say in this "bastards" ?? what sort of future do you think these children will have branded when people like you bash them up before they can walk?.. thanks but no thanks.

lettie 24-05-2005 10:31

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Originally Posted by Driller
and so you agree with calling babies whom have had no say in this "bastards" ?? what sort of future do you think these children will have branded when people like you bash them up before they can walk?.. thanks but no thanks.


If you actually read my post it merely states that this is the correct terminology. It does not state that I agree with it. May I suggest a trip to Specsavers..:D

Driller 24-05-2005 10:40

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Originally Posted by lettie
If you actually read my post it merely states that this is the correct terminology. It does not state that I agree with it. May I suggest a trip to Specsavers..:D

calling babies bastards is now the "correct" terminology in Accrington ? may I suggest a trip to Aushwich?

Tealeaf 24-05-2005 10:42

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Originally Posted by Driller
calling babies bastards is now the "correct" terminology in Accrington ? may I suggest a trip to Aushwich?

Where is that? Anywhere near Sandwich?

Driller 24-05-2005 11:09

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Where is that? Anywhere near Sandwich?

NAZI bastard

Bazf 24-05-2005 12:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Driller
I would say branding babies as "bastards" and calling for parents to be sterilized pretty extreme..but I suppose Himmler had the same outlook on getting a "life"

You actually know who Himmler was or are you just guessing? it was Adolf Eichmann who surggested the above.

pendy 24-05-2005 14:31

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Okay Driller, have a go at me. I am a bastard. I was born to parents who were not married, at least my father was, but not to my mother. I am not ashamed of it, why should I be?

I also have Jewish ancestry and I object to people like you quoting Auschwitz (and you could at least try to spell it properly) at me and my friends on the web.

You felt free to call Tealeaf a bastard - I know his mother and knew his father, and I can assure you that they were certainly lawfully married at the time of his birth.

You seem to have a strange grasp on the English language, but then again you also seem to have a strange grasp on life.

If you hate us that much, why visit us at all?

Billcat 24-05-2005 14:40

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Originally Posted by chav1
lol i think i will thet the smileys do the talking from now on

:signthis: :signthis: :signthis: :signthis: :signthis: :signthis:


Thanks for the laugh!

Billcat 24-05-2005 14:45

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My opinion is that this driller is just coming here to try to start fights. He's one of those folks who I find it better to ignore. It's pretty obvious that using this site for amusement (unless one has a very strange sense of how to be amused) or serious discussion is not anything he is interested in.

Wish we had an "ignore" option, so I would no longer have to see his posts!

ossyclogger 24-05-2005 14:49

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If you click on his profile, you will see some thing saying " Add to your ignore list"

Billcat 24-05-2005 14:52

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Originally Posted by ossyclogger
If you click on his profile, you will see some thing saying " Add to your ignore list"

Thank you VERY MUCH!:D

Tealeaf 24-05-2005 14:57

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Originally Posted by Billcat
My opinion is that this driller is just coming here to try to start fights. He's one of those folks who I find it better to ignore. It's pretty obvious that using this site for amusement (unless one has a very strange sense of how to be amused) or serious discussion is not anything he is interested in.

Wish we had an "ignore" option, so I would no longer have to see his posts!

It does'nt matter...he's banned anyway. A shame really...apart from the gratutious insults (which have no effect on me anyway) it is occaisionally refreshing to have someone with totally wacky ideas making postings.

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Driller
NAZI bastard

Driller......Am I wrong in thinking this is an extreme opinion that you have posted.......?
You can't call the whole of the website extremist and then post an extremist comment yourself.

You must have looked at the site before you joined.......if you find it so offensive why do you stay.......?

Billcat 24-05-2005 14:59

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I note with interest that Driller has a lot of loose change lying about. My effort to relive him of some of that loot unfortunately was unsuccessful. Perhaps someone else can do better? I know that Lindsay is trying to build up enough ackers to kennel two petz (one belonging to her daugher) while she heads away on holiday. If anyone else wants to play Robin Hood, driller seems to be a good choice to cast on the role of Nottignham.

MANU 24-05-2005 15:01

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
It does'nt matter...he's banned anyway. A shame really...apart from the gratutious insults (which have no effect on me anyway) it is occaisionally refreshing to have someone with totally wacky ideas making postings.

Yes just what is expected.. anyone who has "wacky" ideas such as calling for sterilization of young girls, calling babies "bastards" should be banned.

Tealeaf 24-05-2005 15:06

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Originally Posted by MANU
Yes just what is expected.. anyone who has "wacky" ideas such as calling for sterilization of young girls, calling babies "bastards" should be banned.

Oh dear....this sounds familiar.

Anyway, just to change the subject slightly. Now that Driller is banned, can I have my Ackers back? It cost me 100 trying to nick some off him, without success. I notice Billcat tried to do the same, and it cost him 200, so please can we have 'em back?

MANU 24-05-2005 15:11

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Originally Posted by Driller
Just quick appraisal of the site .. extreme views on the unemployed, extreme views on the asian people in the community, posts that attack the least protected in the community, badgering of anyone who does not share thier opinions, members who regulary post extremist views from the national press, members who make up extremist propaganda, the use of bad language that the moderators accept if it in their own intrests...

thats me banned

The monitors or administrators of this site decided to stop my access to the forums..strange? afraid of people who confront the your (slash,kill,burn) attidude?

BLACKBURN RAVER 24-05-2005 15:18

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how can a child be a bastard ? a bastard is fatherless...and the last time i knew the only way a woman could get pregnant was by the sperm produced by man ..thus being the childs father ...so no child in this world is fatherless and to call them bastards is nothing less than ignorant ...

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 15:33

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Biologically, every child has a father........but there are many children who are morally bereft of the male parent.

BLACKBURN RAVER 24-05-2005 15:38

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Biologically, every child has a father........but there are many children who are morally bereft of the male parent.

i agree but they are NOT bastards and people who call them that will get no respect off me because it is pure ignorance ....but hey thats jusy my view margaret

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 15:39

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The dictionary definition of a 'Bastard'.......is a child born out of wedlock....... illegitimate......person regarded with dislike or pity(colloquillism).....a hybrid.

so the use of the word bastard in this instance is correct........it is not being used as a derogatory term.......just stating a fact.

We have got so used to equating the term 'bastard' with the derogatory meaning that we have forgotten the real meaning of the word.

yerself 24-05-2005 15:42

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Originally Posted by Blackburn Raver
bastard is fatherless

You seem to be having trouble with what is presumably your native language Blackburn Raver. I hope the following clarifies things for you.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:


bastard



/baasthttp://www.askoxford.com/images/phonetics/schwa.gifrd/ • noun 1 archaic or derogatory an illegitimate person.

illegitimate



/illijittimhttp://www.askoxford.com/images/phonetics/schwa.gift/ • adjective 1 not in accordance with the law or accepted standards. 2 (of a child) born of parents not lawfully married to each other.

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 15:44

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Oh........yerself... great minds and all that!

BLACKBURN RAVER 24-05-2005 15:45

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
The dictionary definition of a 'Bastard'.......is a child born out of wedlock....... illegitimate......person regarded with dislike or pity(colloquillism).....a hybrid.

so the use of the wors bastard in this instance is correct........it is not being used as a derogatory term.......just stating a fact.

but we no longer live in the past where that term was acceptable this is they year 2005 and not 1905 or even 1955 many of my friends are parents and they are not wed some are even single parents just because a child is born out of wedlock DOES NOT make it illigitimate and a bastard .......ignorance is bliss :mad:

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 15:47

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But we are not using the term in a derogatory sense........these children are illegitimate.

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 15:48

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However, I respect your right to that opinion.

BLACKBURN RAVER 24-05-2005 15:52

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
But we are not using the term in a derogatory sense........these children are illegitimate.

derogatory or not they are not illigitimate and they are not bastards and i couldnt give a sh1t what a book says ...sorry but thats how i feel .....my last post before i say something il regret :mad: :( :mad:

Billcat 24-05-2005 16:19

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Oh dear....this sounds familiar.

Anyway, just to change the subject slightly. Now that Driller is banned, can I have my Ackers back? It cost me 100 trying to nick some off him, without success. I notice Billcat tried to do the same, and it cost him 200, so please can we have 'em back?

It was worth the attempt, even though it failed. :D

What the exchange rate between the US Dollar and the AccyWeb acker? Or is the answer, "You can't get there from here?"

Billcat 24-05-2005 16:29

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
but we no longer live in the past where that term was acceptable this is they year 2005 and not 1905 or even 1955 many of my friends are parents and they are not wed some are even single parents just because a child is born out of wedlock DOES NOT make it illigitimate and a bastard .......ignorance is bliss :mad:

Just consulted with my (sorry, folks) Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary.

illegitimate, adj., 1: not recognized as lawful offspring: specif. born of parents not married to each other (emphasis added)

Even an dictionary of American English clearly shows that a child born out of wedlock is illegitimate. Blackburn Raver, you are free to disagree, but a few of us have provided authoritative documentation to support our position. Suggest that you may wish to do the same.

I'll happily forego the use of "bastard," as it carries a lot of additional pejorative connotations.

Acrylic-bob 24-05-2005 16:51

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>>derogatory or not they are not illigitimate and they are not bastards and i couldnt give a sh1t what a book says <<

Happily for society as a whole and civilisation in general, you are in a fairly small minority there.

The fact remains that, like it or not, any child born to an unmarried mother is illegitimate in the eyes of the law and thus a bastard. There are some who have revelled in the apellation; William the Conqueror was commonly referred to as William the Bastard and later in the fifteenth century one of the illegitimate sons of the French king (I forget which one) rejoiced in the ludicrous title of The Grand Bastard of Burgundy.

Indeed, I have even been known to refer to myself as "Bastard, by name and by nature!"

BLACKBURN RAVER 24-05-2005 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billcat
Just consulted with my (sorry, folks) Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary.

illegitimate, adj., 1: not recognized as lawful offspring: specif. born of parents not married to each other (emphasis added)

Even an dictionary of American English clearly shows that a child born out of wedlock is illegitimate. Blackburn Raver, you are free to disagree, but a few of us have provided authoritative documentation to support our position. Suggest that you may wish to do the same.

I'll happily forego the use of "bastard," as it carries a lot of additional pejorative connotations.

LIKE I SAY I COULDNT GIVE A SH1T ABOUT A FRIKIN BOOK ..POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS THE NAME OF THE GAME THESE DAYS, IF YOU CANT CALL A BLACK A BLACK THEN WHY CAN YOU STILL CALL A BABY A BASTARD ....BOLL**S TO A BOOK ....YOU ARE A BIGOT (One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.).....SEEING AS YOU ARE ALL QUOTIONG THE GREAT BOOK

chav1 24-05-2005 17:18

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anyone want a cookie

Bazf 24-05-2005 17:22

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
LIKE I SAY I COULDNT GIVE A SH1T ABOUT A FRIKIN BOOK ..POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS THE NAME OF THE GAME THESE DAYS, IF YOU CANT CALL A BLACK A BLACK THEN WHY CAN YOU STILL CALL A BABY A BASTARD ....BOLL**S TO A BOOK ....YOU ARE A BIGOT (One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.).....SEEING AS YOU ARE ALL QUOTIONG THE GREAT BOOK

Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.

Acrylic-bob 24-05-2005 17:24

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It may be true to say that an infant has no influence over the marital status of its parents and thus cannot be blamed for the circumstances of its birth. On the other hand there are some schools of thought which would argue the opposite, insisting that the soul actively chooses the life that it is to be born into.

Generally speaking though the use of the terms "Bastard" and "Illegitimate" have been applied to such children for thousands of years without anyone thinking to change them for something nicer. If the words carry a negative or perjorative connotation then that is the result of such words being used to convey a meaning which is different to that which was originally the case. If you find offence in such words then may I respectfully suggest that the offence lies not in the word but in your own ear.

chav1 24-05-2005 17:24

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
how can a child be a bastard ? a bastard is fatherless...and the last time i knew the only way a woman could get pregnant was by the sperm produced by man ..thus being the childs father ...so no child in this world is fatherless and to call them bastards is nothing less than ignorant ...

bastard dosnt mean fatherless it means born out of wedlock

my kids are bastards coz i wasnt married when hey were born

been born out of wedlock used to be a shamefull thing so calling somone a bastard was an insult

these days most people are born out of wedlock so theres no shame attatched to it any more

non the less the name stands correct so if born to parents who are not married at the time of birth a bastard ye be

Sparkologist 24-05-2005 17:43

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Originally Posted by Bazf
Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.

Thank you, Baz, for enlightening us to the finer? points of political correctness.

You have just won yourself some karma points.

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2005 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazf
Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.


Well said Bazf...........and I totally agree.

Billcat 24-05-2005 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
LIKE I SAY I COULDNT GIVE A SH1T ABOUT A FRIKIN BOOK ..POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS THE NAME OF THE GAME THESE DAYS, IF YOU CANT CALL A BLACK A BLACK THEN WHY CAN YOU STILL CALL A BABY A BASTARD ....BOLL**S TO A BOOK ....YOU ARE A BIGOT (One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.).....SEEING AS YOU ARE ALL QUOTIONG THE GREAT BOOK

Apparently, you are not only foul-mouthed, but you fail to read and comprehend. I cited authorities, and I decidely did not call anyone a bastard. In fact, I cited reasons why I choose to refrain from using that term. Instead, you reply with a foul stream of coarse invective that says a whole lot about your own lack of character.

One can only hope that the administrators see fit to deal with you as you so richly deserve. :s_fmad:

Neal 24-05-2005 20:23

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For the time being, I am closing this thread until Roy or someone else decides what to do with it.

The best way to annoy someone like this > Ignore them and don't bite.

Regards.


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