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I see that scruffy, foul-mouthed irish multi-millionaire has been on the telly again to publicise the latest poverty scam This time, he & his fellow "musicians", worth a couple of billion between them, will be asking us to empty our pockets in return for a couple of hours of listening to their infernal din. All proceeds, as usual, to the starving babies of Africa or some similar "good cause."

Yeah. What happened to the dosh raised for Ethiopia 20 years ago? Did it make any long-term difference?And look what happened to the Tsumai appeal. Of the £400m raised in the UK, less than £20m has gone into the front-line. In the case of Sri Lanka, practically nowt. However, there's an awful lot of advertisments in the Guardian for Charity fund raisers, Aid Co-ordinators and all the other non-jobs associated with this third world scam

But not only that; it appears that this time they will be encouraging the great unwashed to invade Scotland, with the aim of disrupting the G8 conference. Their objective? More debt write offs, More Aid, Higher taxes...all to prop up a motley selection of rotten African tin-pot regimes.

Well, Geldof and Chancellor Brown, you won't be getting a penny out of me.

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Do you not like Mondays? Oh, it's Tuesday? Whatever!


And it's Sir Scruffy, thank you.

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Apparently the single released to accompany the event will be a cover version of that old classic "I am holier than thou" - Pass the sick bag Alice!

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Or even Sundays from what I can gather Garinda. I agree, Sir, but still scruffy.

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Alice?

Who the feck is Alice?

Your showing your age A-b with your Smokie mix-up. :)

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Different Alice, alas! I alluded to the Alice reffered to by Sir John Junor.

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Ok, let you off. Thought you might have meant Alice B. Tolkas [and Gertrude Stein?]


Come to think of it they could be me and thee!

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Life has taught me to be wary of women in sensible shoes. But we digress.

I am sure that dear gertrude would have taken great pleasure in eviscerating Saint Geldoff, had she still been alive.

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Oh well, A-B, you would give me a wide berth then.......I only ever wear sensible shoes.

A good bed...... and good shoes, because if you're not in one you're in the other.

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I'm in neither at the moment.

And I will be avoiding the concert (if that's what it's called) like the plague.

When is it? Let's hope it's warm enough for a barbie!

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Not really Margaret, it's a euphemism used by Robin Williams in the film "Good Morning America". The novelist Jeanette Winterson may be described as a Woman in Sensible Shoes. Whereas, although you may wear shoes that could be defined as sensible you are, self-evidently, not a Woman in Sensible Shoes. Unless there is something that you are not telling us?????

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Oh.......all becomes clear to me now........and No, I'm not a Woman in Sensible Shoes.

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As you can plainly see.......I don't get out much.

I won't be frequenting this nonsense of a concert, nor will I be buying any music that is featured in such a concert.

What do these countries do with the money.......buy guns and weapons.

It is all very well trying to tug at our heartstrings by showing us the fly blown sickly babies, but we need to sort our own poor and homeless first.

I think I may have a touch of charity fatigue.

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well i was going to ask why they needed so much money sending over there because the N.H.S is flooded with them over here

why not have a charity concert for the NHS instead that way you will treat most of africas population and many other countries too

hell we may even be able to start treating our own citizens a little faster

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I have agree that Africa is something of a bottomless pit when it comes to foreign aid. I can remember being constantly pestered to donate my spending money for "Black Babies in Africa" and that was nearly forty five years ago. While it is true that the Empire and British companies made an awfull lot of money from Africa, it is also true that it and they spent an awfull lot more governing and "improving" it, to say nothing of the countless millions that have poured in since 1947. And the result? A continent which, as far as I can see, seems hell bent on its own destruction.

It is a standard socialist belief that if you chuck enough money at a problem a solution will eventually emerge. Very socialist - and very wrong and one that in Africa has lead to unspeakable misery for countless millions.

What the solution to Africa's problems is, I do not know. But I do know it does not lie in yet more handouts, nor does it lie with a bunch of tired old has-beens desperately trying to hang on to their relevance.

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is this the christians of accrington web site per chance?

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people have choices-wether or not to support causes,but cant agree with knocking em,

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You can be sure that any money sent over there will be used for the benefit of the corrupt governments, and not for the people for whom it was intended.

That's why I only donate to domestic charities, like British Heart Foundation and Leukaemia Research.

And not forgetting the Save the Vorlon Fund! :D

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As somwone who went to the original concert in 1985, l'm pleased and glad if any of the monies raised went to help feed people and children who were starving to death.

It maybe corrupt politicans to blame, as well as drought but this is not a tax. If you don't want to support it don't, you have a choice.

Reading this thread without knowing 'some' of it is tongue in cheek, would make me wonder if it had racist undertones.

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For many years celebrities have organised various functions to raise money for this that and the other. But I wonder just how much those celebrities contribute in real hard cash?

The only people who actually dip into their pockets are the general public.

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i dont think it to be racist to look after your own before taking care of foreighners

we have people of all colours and faiths in england that are born here who need health care just as much as people abroad

i would have no problem helping other countries if our own nation was in a position where people wernt waiting upto 2 years to get a dentist , babies on long waiting lists for life saving operations , elderly people unable to afford the most basic things like heat in the winter , and many other things wrong with this countries health service and treatment of the poor

yes we have charities to help these people but they get no where near as much attention as third world countries like africa so they make a lot less money

i wonder how many hospitals , dentists and health clinics all that money poured into africa could have funded instead of been wasted on people who dont seem to want to help themselves but would rather sit and wait for the next hand out

of course i feel sorry for them but at the end of the day there is only so much help you can give somone

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I have no objection to forking out for charity. Like Vorlon I also tend to stick to domestic charities British heart Foundation and Terrance Higgins Trust being 2 of my recent donations. If people want to help charities then the best way is to actually get off their bums and go and do some grafting for them, just as Mez does when she does the shopping for Age Concern. I think a donation of someone's time is far more valuable than cash. Before full time midwifery, I spent 3 days a week helping the elderly mentally ill by providing reminiscence therapy and helping them to eat their dinners (cutting up their food and physically feeding them).

If you donate your time, then you can be sure that it is well spent...:D

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It just seems to get worse. Now I read that Geldof and some of his chums are actively encouraging school children to play hooky from school and join a "Million Man March" in Edinburgh.

Great. I can see it now. Legions of kids swarming up the M1/M6 with their little hitch-hikers'signs saying "Edinburgh"; it's an early Christmas for every paedophile in the land.

And what does our goverment do about this sorry state of affairs? Does it strip the Irish rogue of his "knighthood"; Does it condemn, without reservation, this active encouragement of lawbreaking?

It does no such thing. In fact, the government actively connives with the whole shady enterprise. The Royal Parks are to be made available (at taxpayers cost), the BBC is switching its saturday afternoon Wimbledon lesbian extravaganza to BBC2, and worse of all. Blair is flying out to Washington next week to get Big Dubbya actively involved in this sorry charade. Some Chance.

I think that weekend is an Accy web meet. Thank God for small mercies..

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To be fair, Bob Geldof is a man who genuinely believes in what he does. Whether it helps in the long run is another matter, but at least he doesn't just sit back waiting for somebody else to do something. He's also willing to help others in lots of ways - all in all, he's not a bad bloke (and he's not that scruffy when you see him).

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Yeah....making money. If him - and his mates - were really concerned about the poor then they would set an example and give some of their own away. Have we seen any evidence of that? None whatsoever.

Whether we like it or not, it is now official goverment policy to increase third-world aid to a level of .7% of GNP. It might not sound alot, but that translates to Seven Billion Pounds. That is seven billion pounds of absolute waste. Just think of what we could do with one hundreth of that in Accy.

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pendy let sir bob have davids cheque book for an hour, i am sure you wont mind but send me a blank one first for the beer at the next meet....lol

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I would not mind the country giving away that sort of money if we did not need it ourselves. Just think of the improvements to the NHS, education, police etc we could do with that amount of money. The local council's might even be able to keep the streets and parks clean as well.

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It looks like the Scottish authorities have been reading the Accy Web:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co....637465,00.html

I also see that Geldof is now trying to reclaim VAT, from the costs of setting up this charade. So what happened to being given free? Anyone else smell a rat?

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Got to agree with the above quote from Tealeaf. Paul McCartney is reputedly worth 1.1 billion pounds, that's £1,100,000,000. If he really cared about this issue as much as he claims to he could dip in his back sack and donate the odd £100,000,000 and not even miss it. This would save us the policing costs and Geldof wouldn't have to ask for VAT exemption and within 12 months he'd make it back in interest on his remaining billion.

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You must remember that £1.1 billion doesn't go as far as it used to .....

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I'd settle for the point one.

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as i hear it Paul McCartney bought a plane for his wife ......

he spent a further £30 on an electric razor so she could shave the other leg ;)



it seems to me that whenever there is a crisis in the world up pop a few celebrities almost demending we put our hands in our pockets yet fail to do the same themselves

they claim that they help by contributing their time and tallent yet dont mind all the srrounding publicity which helps their failing careers


when people said Paul McCartney to me i used to think of a talented person and part of the beetles

all i think of now when i hear his name is tree huggging idiot with too much free time on his hands and an unbelievable almost extreemist dislike for eating meat

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Possibly one of the Boomtown variety...

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Are INXS playing?

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not unless mick is hanging up his rope and coming back for a 1 night only appearance

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Thought he'd split up from Jerry Hall?

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we are talking about the same guy arnt we

the pervert lead singer of inxs who liked hanging around in wardrobes lol

micheal hutchens - mick

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Oh that Michael? The one that took Kylie from Ramsay Street to Aphixiation Passage?

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That would be the one!

Wakey wakey!!!

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*lmao*

some funny comments but i agree the celebs shud lead by example

i remember when 9/11 happened nad they were doin the whole telethon thing and then came the celeb amounts. xyz a-list celeb has personally donated $100,000 xyz singer has donated $50,000

i was thinkin wtf?! is that all?! i mean the a-listers such as leonardo di caprio earn 200 times that per movie!!

i mean alot more respect wud b due to them if one a-lister stood up and said ok my next movie's paycheck is goin all to the blah blah fund for 9/11 or end world poverty. then ur talkin $20m+ and not some half hearted appearence on tv for 20 mins just to make sure u are seen to b caring.

at least with bob geldolf i can see yeah ok he's takin out the trouble to organise all this or his team is.. but he's behind it and he does do quite alot of active work in africa

naturally wiht the nature of africa and its countries its impossible to say 100% will go to the ppl. corruption is rife. and the tv progs need to pay for the bottles of water for the celebs in their five star hotels whilst durin the day htey go standing and shedding a tear next to a kid thats dying...

robbie williams was listed as pop's highest earner or sommet. i mean come on. if u gave £50m of that cash how much wud u honestly have to adjust ur life?

look at all the cash wacko jacko's blown and learn a lesson.

ah well...

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Not quite true mate, have a read of this.

January 12, 2005 George Rupp, president of the International Rescue Committee, today hailed the extraordinary generosity of Paul and Heather McCartney for their gift of one million pounds ($1.9 million) for the aid organization’s tsunami relief efforts in Aceh, Indonesia.

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And this

Pop legend Sir Paul McCartney has donated $2m (£1.25m) to two US hospitals that cared for his late wife Linda when she was dying from breast cancer.

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And this.

Sandra Bullock and Leonardo DiCaprio each donated about $1 million for disaster relief following the recent tsunami in Southeast Asia. The Steven Spielberg family donated $1.5 million. Jet Li donated more than $125,000; Jackie Chan added at least $64,000. Among several dozen rock bands which donated proceeds of their concerts or made outright donations, U-2 and Linkin Park each donated $100,000; Ozzie and Sharon Osborn donated almost $200,000.

So I think it is far to say that many celeb's with money do make very large donations.

I am struggling to find any large donations made by Bob Geldof himself. Maybe someone can help me out.

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youre spot on with that neil some celebs certainly do make large donations,but its easier to knock things than check them out lol

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tax reasons also could be the incentive for donating large amounts of money

those that secretly donate money i have more respect for then those that make sure their name is mentioned and a few reporters present to hear it

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i agree with you chav i respect the celebs that donate secretly yet because the scruffy hobo ex celeb swamp (boomtown) rat has not been in the papers for a while then all of a sudden he comes up with band 8 and anyway what does the 8 stand for cos the first one was 20 years ago

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Sir Bob or Slur Blob Wants all the debts of these so.called third world countries to be cancelled out and forgotten so that they can get themseles on thir feet.Never have I heard such rubbish as soon as the debts are cancelled these countries will apply fo aid from elswhere and be in the same boat within weeks as they are now.

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Steph......the 8 comes from the G8 Summit that is being held at Gleneagles........the International Monetary Fund (of which there are 8 members I think.......) get together and discuss how to manage world debt.
Gordon Brown is going to try to get some concensus of opinion to cancel out at least SOME of the third world debt.

It is Ok to wipe out the debt of the third world countries, but in practice this may not benefit the poor people. The money may go into the coffers of the corrupt governments and may in fact then encourage them to incur more debt in the hope that this too will be wiped out at a future date.

Charity begins at home.......we have people in THIS country who could do with a helping hand.

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How about bringing back Canibalism to Africa. Wont that solve the problem. I will give to Africa when Mugabe and his ilk start contributing

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watched a documentry the other night you dont need to bring it back their still at it lol

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then why are the buggers starving..?

got to admit though theres not much meat on them so that could explain it

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I notice there's no Black artists... food for thougth?

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The organisers reckon that lots of black artistes have been approched to take part, but they can't do it due to work commitments. However the fact that there are no black artistes has been mentioned on the radio news. I heard it the other day and thought it strange.

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there was a debate on tv about the lack of black artist and in general people dint see it mattered

somone mentioned that mariah kerry wa sperforming and a black oannelist said well she isnt realy that black is she lol

the whole point is to raise money for starving people but as usual somone finds a way of bringing it down to and argument about racism

i dont see any wheel chair bound people performing either ime surprised the dogooders havnt jumped all over that one

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I go against the flow and state that I am all for the folks who see a problem and want to give of their time and/or money to help get it fixed. If no one ever made an effort, if everyone sat on their handsm whining and complaining, there would be no progress in this sorry old world of ours. For these celebs, it would be far less fuss and bother in their lives just to sit by the pool and order some more champagne and caviar than to do their bit to solve the world's problems. Do they always succeed? Of course not. But they make the effort and for that alone, I will give them full marks.

But for folks like that, we'd all still be living in caves, fighting off sabre-toothed tigers.

Frankly, if you aren't working to be part of the solution (no matter how small a part), then it's virtually certain that you are just another part of the problem.

Just as a side note, it appears that the number one favorite activity in the UK may be the same as here in the USA - complaining. It's inexpensive, allows you to vent, gets you plenty of company in the form of fellow complainers, and usually accomplishes only one thing - that you are well-recognized as a complainer. I'll pass on that one, thanks!