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cashman 08-11-2012 13:11

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Seems like that piece of work is after a reduced sentence to me.:rolleyes:

flashy 08-11-2012 13:28

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Sorry Accyman, yes the body, Fitzpatrick has aparently told the police that He buried him at Admirals Wood, in Bolton by Bowland according to The Observer

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 14:11

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minimum of 20 years, but then if you dont admit guilt ans show remorse no parole

thats why so many "find god", does that mean only non believers commit crime?

cashman 08-11-2012 14:18

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules (Post 1027035)
minimum of 20 years, but then if you dont admit guilt ans show remorse no parole

thats why so many "find god", does that mean only non believers commit crime?

Nah quite a few fruitcakes use the God told me to do it excuse.

accyman 08-11-2012 16:20

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1027027)
Sorry Accyman, yes the body, Fitzpatrick has aparently told the police that He buried him at Admirals Wood, in Bolton by Bowland according to The Observer

no probs i just wasnt sure if someone had put about stupid rumours such as he was alive and staged his own murder again forcing police to reopen the case.

glad his family will finally get him back and give him a propper funeral.Still wont alter the fact he is no longer with them they will be effected for the rest of their lives and that is why life should mean life for murder.

Its along time since i have spoken to relatives of david but the last time i did there was some small amount of comfort that the person who did it was stuck in a small cell rotting and i would hate to see that alter any time soon or at all

Paz1976 08-11-2012 19:47

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You lot need to shut up and get a lot of facts right before you start spouting your mouths off on here, so keep your comments to yourself unless you know all about this story, I've known Shane for ages and he is on off the kindest people you could ever meet, yeh he done one bad mistake in his life, we all make mistakes and now he paying for it, he done right telling we're body is and ill be right behind him on everything he does!!!!

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 19:56

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This man is the kindest person you could wish to meet?
He only made one bad mistake?
I think you are a master of understatment there.

He has taken 7 years to tell the police where his victims body is.
Do you consider that to be a kind action? To leave this man's family without closure for seven years?

Less 08-11-2012 19:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027094)
I've known Shane for ages and he is on off the kindest people you could ever meet, yeh he done one bad mistake in his life, we all make mistakes and now he paying for it, he done right telling we're body is and ill be right behind him on everything he does!!!!



Yes he has done right telling where the body is, but are you sure leaving it this long before he did is the action that would be taken by,

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027094)
on off the kindest people you could ever meet

Perhaps you have allowed emotion to cloud your judgement?
It certainly looks that way to me.
:(

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:00

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No I haven't let emotion cloud my judgement, you seriously need to know Shane and all the story behind why he did it and it makes perfect sense, there are reasons for everything!!

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:03

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Margaret like I said you need to know the all story and I'm sure put in that situation u would do the same!!!

Restless 08-11-2012 20:03

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Why don't you elaborate the reasons that(in your opinion) make it ok and sense to commit murder ?

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1027095)
This man is the kindest person you could wish to meet?
He only made one bad mistake?
I think you are a master of understatment there.

He has taken 7 years to tell the police where his victims body is.
Do you consider that to be a kind action? To leave this man's family without closure for seven years?

agree totally,

sorry you may be party to more of "the facts" than some of us, but as far as i was aware he denied the crime for 7 years, no remorse until now

a bad mistake is ringing the police immediately and confessing your crime, not premeditated an d laying in wait wearing a balaclava, the trial judge described this as a professional killing.

dont try and defend the undefindable! the guy is a murderer, and to my mind should have hung for his crime!

and because i am a citizen of this country i have the right to speak my mind

cashman 08-11-2012 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027098)
No I haven't let emotion cloud my judgement, you seriously need to know Shane and all the story behind why he did it and it makes perfect sense, there are reasons for everything!!

Well if yeh think it makes perfect sense to commit murder, you should be locked wi him.:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:08

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You surely cannot justify a murder and pleading innocence...then 7 years later admitting what he did and finally telling where the remains are.
Murder...the taking of a life.......there isn't a good reason for it...you may think there is.....as for a perfect reason, NEVER.

And while you may consider yourself to be a friend of this man, it is no reason to post a nasty threatening(well it seemed threatening to me) post...more so, seeing as it is the first one you have made on here.

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:09

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027099)
Margaret like I said you need to know the all story and I'm sure put in that situation u would do the same!!!


If you think that, then you don't know me.

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:09

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Do any off you know Shane answer that question??????

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:10

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Or are you just reading the facts put in the paper?????

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:10

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If you don't know the truth just shut up and don't comment ok!!!!

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:11

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Do you know what David was really like?????

Restless 08-11-2012 20:12

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Doesn't matter if you know him or not. You have the knowledge of a set of circumstances where you think it makes sense to commit murder-- This again was my question. It was not my opinion on this subject

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:12

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027107)
If you don't know the truth just shut up and don't comment ok!!!!

so the truth is he is innocent?
no i dont know him, dont need to

he murdered someone FACT
he denied his crime FACT
he tried to cover up his crime FACT

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:12

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To me you all just sound like noisy busy bodies that want to comment on something which doesn't mean anything too you !!!!

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:13

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It doesn't matter whether we know Shane or not...his actions were NOT those of a kind or gentle person.
And as a matter of fact, I knew Shane as a boy and both of his parents.

You cannot get away from the fact that he took a life and then lied about doing it(well, he pleaded innocent).

Less 08-11-2012 20:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027105)
Do any off you know Shane answer that question??????

Which question?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027106)
Or are you just reading the facts put in the paper?????

Somehow I suspect that the papers will be less biased than you ever will be.

Now, why don't you tell us the facts as you claim them to be, it's a quiet night on television we could do with your input.

cashman 08-11-2012 20:14

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To me you just sound like yer mate thats in nick.:rolleyes:

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:14

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I didn't say he was innocent, but people do things for a reason and he did it for reason, I rest my case!!!

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027107)
If you don't know the truth just shut up and don't comment ok!!!!

It is a public forum and we are entitled to air our views, this has been done in a civilised way.
It is unlikely that anyone will shut up because you tell them to.

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:16

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Blimey cashman your quick, no I'm just commenting on summat I don't know!!!

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:17

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027111)
To me you all just sound like noisy busy bodies that want to comment on something which doesn't mean anything too you !!!!

and you to me sound like someone who joined this forum just to defend your friend, who is a MURDERER!

ok you say we dont know what the victim was really like, and you imply he deserved it.

if someone did something to my family that i felt justified enough to end their life (and i can think of lots of instances)

i would do it then quite happily hand myself in!

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:17

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Yeh it's forum and I can come on here and defend my friend, not bothered if people don't shut up, but I'm not guna have my mate slagged off, when no one knows wot a horrible person David was!!!!

cashman 08-11-2012 20:18

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027119)
Blimey cashman your quick, no I'm just commenting on summat I don't know!!!

Oh but yeh are commenting on summat you don't know, you dont know murder cannot be justified.:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:18

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No, you didn't say he was innocent...it was Shane who said he was innocent....for seven years.
There is no justification for murder. No good reason......if you think there is a good reason, you are deluded.

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:19

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so it is alright for you to bad mouth a dead man...a man who was murdered and cannot defend himself...what a moral person you are!

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:20

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Thank you church, I agree with you, he is a murderer yeh and yeh he shut have handed his self in, but he had reasons, which I cannot say on here!!!

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:21

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im a horrible person, does that mean anyone can just come round beat me to death, and not be punished?

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:22

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Yeh Margaret I've been saying that about jimmy saville ,not here to defend hisself, so the government and police are just like me then eh!!!

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:23

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027125)
Thank you church, I agree with you, he is a murderer yeh and yeh he shut have handed his self in, but he had reasons, which I cannot say on here!!!

but thats the key point he didn't, he felt strong enough to kill a man, but was too much of a coward to face the consequences, and this is a person you are trying to defend

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:23

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Church trust me you would be nothing like David!!!

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:25

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I don't want to know what his reasons were for murdering the man, but the fact that he has denied that he did it and kept quiet about the remains until now, seven long years......would there be a reason for that too?

Admission, remorse(genuine or not) finding God, cynic that I am.....makes me think he has an ulterior motive.

Less 08-11-2012 20:25

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027125)
Thank you church, I agree with you, he is a murderer yeh and yeh he shut have handed his self in, but he had reasons, which I cannot say on here!!!

Why can you not say on here? Would you be considered a grass? Would you be putting your life in danger? You want us to shut up, but you give no good reason why we should suddenly decide your mate was a really good and kind man, that we should be proud to have as a free member of society, because he did us all a really big favour by taking the life of another human being.

Put up or shut up.

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:25

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027130)
Church trust me you would be nothing like David!!!

and trust me, you dont know me, so you cant comment

and your and mine and anyone elses definition of "a horrible man" differ too much to use it as an excuse for a cowardly act

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:26

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027128)
Yeh Margaret I've been saying that about jimmy saville ,not here to defend hisself, so the government and police are just like me then eh!!!

That is entirely different. If you want to post about the Savile story, there is a thread for that.

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:26

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Look you lot can say wot you want on here, but none off you know the full story and I have the right to stand up for my friend!!!

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:27

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It's exactly the same Margaret!!!

Less 08-11-2012 20:29

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027136)
Look you lot can say wot you want on here, but none off you know the full story and I have the right to stand up for my friend!!!

So stand up for him, but until you give us the facts you can't expect us to believe he is worth your support.

cashman 08-11-2012 20:29

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You dont need a full story, he commited murder, he denied the fact, He has now admitted it, so the jury were correct, its that simple hes a murderer, no excuse.

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027136)
Look you lot can say wot you want on here, but none off you know the full story and I have the right to stand up for my friend!!!

now your getting there, we have a right as do you, but dont expect to join a community forum, and defend a convicted killer without going unchallenged, especially when you tell us we should be quiet,

your defensive of him says more about you than it does about us

there is a difference between standing by a friend and understanding why he committed a crime than condoning it

Paz1976 08-11-2012 20:30

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Less I'm really guna tell a load off strangers arnt I Derrr!!!

churchfcrules 08-11-2012 20:32

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027141)
Less I'm really guna tell a load off strangers arnt I Derrr!!!

im guessing you have no proof of these allegations, or they would have been used by his defence at the trial

so its just hearsay anyway

cashman 08-11-2012 20:33

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Well yeh told strangers what a nice guy a murderer is didn't yeh.

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2012 20:33

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Not the same at all........Jimmy Savile was a Paedophile...he didn't murder anyone, deny it and spend 7 years keeping quiet about the remains......and we only have your say so that the victim was a 'horrible' man.
The only thing that Jimmy Savile has in common with this is that both he and David Guilfoyle are dead..........it seems that on the balance of evidence Jimmy Savile was a bad man who did good things(some of the time...and for his own selfish reasons)....David Guilfoyle.....well, we don't know if he did bad things or not...unless we would like to believe you...but you are defending a convicted murderer...so NO...I think I will pass on that .

Less 08-11-2012 20:35

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027141)
Less I'm really guna tell a load off strangers arnt I Derrr!!!

You want a load of strangers to stop thinking of your friend as a criminal and turn him into a grand lad, someone we would all think to be one of the kindest people we could ever meet, so expand on your poor defense of him.

Prove to us that he is worthy to be called your friend.

DaveinGermany 08-11-2012 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027098)
you seriously need to know Shane and all the story behind why he did it and it makes perfect sense, there are reasons for everything!!

All the "story", were you there when it happened ? Did you witness the act ? (incidentally making you an accessory to the crime)

If your answer is "no" then your opinions are as biased as those, who, in your opinion gained their information from the press. Your "facts" come from a man accused & sentenced for murder.

There is as they say two sides to every story, sadly in this case the counter argument can't be sought as the individual concerned isn't here to speak for himself.

As to perfect sense for committing murder, I really can't agree myself. Perhaps if the complete facts were available an understanding as to the why & wherefore could be ascertained & perceived, but "perfect sense" I think not.

Mog 08-11-2012 20:53

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027141)
Less I'm really guna tell a load off strangers arnt I Derrr!!!

What you should do Paz1976 is put yourself down as a character witness for your mate. and when you stand up in court to defend him. The judge will give him another 20 years for your impudence. When I read your ranting about how good and kind you so called murdering friend is. (I can call him a murderer because he has admitted it.) It makes me wonder what the hell is going through you mind and do you know the difference between right and wrong. There were millions of Germans who said that their leader was a good and kind man as well. Its called being brainwashed. This is what I think you are. Brainwashed and you have no idea what you are saying or how offensive some of your remarks are, especially to the poor dead mans family. If I was you I would shut up and sign off from this webb site.

Retlaw 08-11-2012 21:16

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027141)
Less I'm really guna tell a load off strangers arnt I Derrr!!!

If you are not going to prove your statements then why mention anything in the first place, your coming across as juvenile minded attention seeker. Your so called friend is a self confessed muderer, end of story.

Accy Web seems to be attracting a lot of attention seekers lately

lindashanks2 08-11-2012 21:32

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I knew Shane. He came in the shop where I worked all the time. The day before he was arrested he was in there laughing and joking with the staff. Feel sick when I think about it. The creep. Never thought of him as a nice guy.

accyman 08-11-2012 21:58

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hey we all need to shut up because the murderers buddy thinks its unfair to judge someone because they merely killed someone .

ok so anyone fancy sticking up for garry glitter next ?

alan7554 09-11-2012 04:13

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i have to agree in part to what PAZ 1976 says,no one knows the true circumstances that lead to this tragic event,maybe it was the fact that david guilfoyles was shack up with this mans ex partner,maybe it could be classed as a crime of passion,who knows,what we dont need are people opening old wounds and slagging each other off on here,i still get that but thats what free speech is all about in this country,so please accept the moderators rules on here and let this subject lie,it wont bring david guilfoyle back or change anything just let it rest and give his family the respect and space they need to come to terms with this tragic event.

Mog 09-11-2012 06:00

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Originally Posted by alan7554 (Post 1027213)
i have to agree in part to what PAZ 1976 says,no one knows the true circumstances that lead to this tragic event,maybe it was the fact that david guilfoyles was shack up with this mans ex partner,maybe it could be classed as a crime of passion,who knows,what we dont need are people opening old wounds and slagging each other off on here,i still get that but thats what free speech is all about in this country,so please accept the moderators rules on here and let this subject lie,it wont bring david guilfoyle back or change anything just let it rest and give his family the respect and space they need to come to terms with this tragic event.

Alan I think you are quite right that we should let it rest for the sake of David’s family and after this I shall. This is not an attempt to slag off anybody; it was an attempt to assist a young gent with his thinking. Maybe he has not been taught that there is a right and a wrong in this life so how would he know the difference. Also you normally find that when some one commits a crime of passion they normally do it out of jealousy and rage. Its is mostly on the spur of the moment and it is rarely planned. To plan and execute a person is premeditated then hide the body miles away and then deny that they ever had anything to do with the crime, is not thinking about David’s family or anybody else. He is only thinking about himself. If he now confesses after 7 years, there is only one thing that he is doing it for and that’s for himself again. Instead of doing the 20 years you know that he will be released in the not too distant future. How the hell do you think David’s family are going to feel about that? I cannot agree with any of Paz 1976 statements. We do not no the full circumstances regarding the build up to this poor mans demise. Whatever he did though did not require anybody murdering him. If it was ok to kill somebody for having an affair with someone’s wife, Half of Accrington’s women would now be widows.

Margaret Pilkington 09-11-2012 06:36

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There is no such thing as a 'crime of passion'...it is a term(a bit like 'honour killing') that those who commit the crime of murder use, to try and 'sanitise' their crime of murder.

I understand that this discussion could be painful to the family of the victim, but should we just have stood by and let this new member defend the murderer?

To try and tell us he is a good man, and to justify his crime by telling us that he had his reasons, but that we are not allowed to know them. In that way to defile the name of David Guilfoyle with his innuendo...but nothing to substantiate it.
My posts to this thread are now done. I hope they find David Guilfoyle and return him to his family, for him to be given a proper resting place.

I also hope we hear no more from this new member....we do not need people to be our moral compass.

Less 09-11-2012 08:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1027183)
ok so anyone fancy sticking up for garry glitter next ?

You did ask, this is the nearest you're going to get:-

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan7554 (Post 1027213)
i have to agree in part to what PAZ 1976 says,no one knows the true circumstances that lead to this tragic event,maybe it was the fact that david guilfoyles was shack up with this mans ex partner,maybe it could be classed as a crime of passion,who knows,what we dont need are people opening old wounds and slagging each other off on here,i still get that but thats what free speech is all about in this country,so please accept the moderators rules on here and let this subject lie,it wont bring david guilfoyle back or change anything just let it rest and give his family the respect and space they need to come to terms with this tragic event.


churchfcrules 09-11-2012 08:47

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1027232)
You did ask, this is the nearest your going to get:-

i too find it strange that the only member (so far) to defend Paz and his thinking, is someone else who believes we should turn a blind eye to "a bad mistake"

i often wonder that if the roles were reversed would these people have the same forgiving attitudes, or is it more a case of "leave me alone, ive served my time" well im sorry

the murderer should have swung, and the other should of had his testicles removed with a cold chisel and 12lb lump hammer without anaesthetic and been left to bleed to death on the town hall steps

THEN JUSTICE WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE!!!!!!!!!

Accylad72 09-11-2012 10:02

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A cynical confession in my eyes, most people I know were expecting a confession and remorse so Shane can secure his parole when the time comes. I knew Shane (not well) and David who was a freind.
7 years Davids family and friends still havent had a funeral.
Shane was not such a nice guy before the murder, he had a reputation as a nutcase and Dave was warned to be careful when he was seeing Shanes ex.
Shane has attempted to escape from Prison not that long into his sentence and it was reported as one of nearest miss escapes from a high security prison.
In the trial it was reported on the night of the disappearance Shane and his Son were dressed in black leaving the house at night, maybe now his son can answer to what his part was in the matter and maybe be prosecuted for perjury as part of Shanes albi.

Dave was popular and well known on the pub scene especially with his talent for snooker and pool, he was a nice, generous, funny guy. yes he had faults but never deserved to be murdered by the cold and calculated jealous Fitzpatrick.

MargaretR 09-11-2012 10:39

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There is an attitude on this forum that 'you should not speak ill of the dead', which I do not adhere to.

I do not know the victim or his murderer but the press has described both as rogues.

I seriously doubt anything that the press reports, but having seen the victim described as 'wheeler dealer', 'womaniser', who gained financially from illegal activity, I can relate this to my own experience, having married a con man with the same traits. (they are usually 'charmers' too)

Neither of the two, victim and murderer, deserve any words of support.

cashman 09-11-2012 10:49

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There also seems to be n attitude on this forum, that murder is wrong under any circumstance, I aint noticed yeh adhere to that neither margaret?

churchfcrules 09-11-2012 10:54

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1027253)
There also seems to be n attitude on this forum, that murder is wrong under any circumstance, I aint noticed yeh adhere to that neither margaret?

i didnt actually agree on that one cashy, i did say however that if you feel strong enough to take someones life to ease your own justice, then you should be equally prepared to own up and deal with the consequence

MargaretR 09-11-2012 10:57

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1027253)
There also seems to be n attitude on this forum, that murder is wrong under any circumstance, I aint noticed yeh adhere to that neither margaret?

I admit that I felt relief when I heard that my con man ex had died 'in suspicious circumstances' - coroners verdict - 'facts unlikely ever to be known'

The number of persons who had motive was likely daunting to the police:D

I am anti death penalty.
It isn't really necessary because rogues have a tendency to eliminate each other.

Margaret Pilkington 09-11-2012 14:17

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I know I said I wouldn't post again to this thread, but I have to.
It doesn't matter what David Guilfoyle did...or whether he was a rogue, a womaniser, a wheeler dealer.

He was the victim...his life was snuffed out by someone (who we're told is a kind and considerate man - or words to the effect) that someone was Shane Fitzpatrick - he has admitted it now.
What made him think that he had the right to be judge, jury and executioner?

Whatever David Guilfoyle did.....it surely couldn't be bad enough to warrant the ending of his life.......after all, we don't even do that to murderers...do we?

Paz1976 09-11-2012 15:08

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Like I say I was just sticking up for my mate, it's true wot one member says, let this rest as I know the truth and slagging each other off is not guna solve anything, I apologise for any offence caused on here, but leave his son out off this, do not talk of his son in that way, and unless you really know what went on then please don't speculate on something's you clearly don't know.

davemac 09-11-2012 15:15

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027319)
Like I say I was just sticking up for my mate, it's true wot one member says, let this rest as I know the truth and slagging each other off is not guna solve anything, I apologise for any offence caused on here, but leave his son out off this, do not talk of his son in that way, and unless you really know what went on then please don't speculate on something's you clearly don't know.

Looks like your contribution on here has gone down like a lump of lead pipe judging by your karma indications.

One aspect that I don't think has been explored is the fact that at the time of this epistle no body has been found, and we have to at least contemplate that it may not be the truth, I have heard of a different location third hand, but no proof. So lets see if the admission is as genuine as is accepted by the authorities.

walkinman221 09-11-2012 15:49

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Originally Posted by Accylad72 (Post 1027241)
A cynical confession in my eyes, most people I know were expecting a confession and remorse so Shane can secure his parole when the time comes. I knew Shane (not well) and David who was a freind.
7 years Davids family and friends still havent had a funeral.
Shane was not such a nice guy before the murder, he had a reputation as a nutcase and Dave was warned to be careful when he was seeing Shanes ex.
Shane has attempted to escape from Prison not that long into his sentence and it was reported as one of nearest miss escapes from a high security prison.
In the trial it was reported on the night of the disappearance Shane and his Son were dressed in black leaving the house at night, maybe now his son can answer to what his part was in the matter and maybe be prosecuted for perjury as part of Shanes albi.

Dave was popular and well known on the pub scene especially with his talent for snooker and pool, he was a nice, generous, funny guy. yes he had faults but never deserved to be murdered by the cold and calculated jealous Fitzpatrick.

I agree ,i also knew of fitzpatricks reputation, and had a acquaintance who had part of his ear bitten off by him. He also was known to violent towards his then wife . Which in my mind doesnt really portray the image of a gentle kind man that paz1976 is trying to put forward :rolleyes:;)

Less 09-11-2012 16:47

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027319)
Like I say I was just sticking up for my mate, it's true wot one member says, let this rest as I know the truth and slagging each other off is not guna solve anything, I apologise for any offence caused on here, but leave his son out off this, do not talk of his son in that way, and unless you really know what went on then please don't speculate on something's you clearly don't know.

The matter can't rest, your loyal friend has spoken with god and now wishes to make amends all well and good but if he had't murdered the other guy maybe he too would have seen the goodness and light but he hasn't got the chance to has he.
As for speculation, I think your mate is trying to work his ticket and the do gooders will swallow it hook line and sinker.

Margaret Pilkington 09-11-2012 17:41

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 1027333)
I agree ,i also knew of fitzpatricks reputation, and had a acquaintance who had part of his ear bitten off by him. He also was known to violent towards his then wife . Which in my mind doesnt really portray the image of a gentle kind man that paz1976 is trying to put forward :rolleyes:;)

I also knew of those things..the violent behaviour, the thuggishness, domestic violence, but was not going to mention it on here.

it was only a matter of time before he came to grief.
Now he purports to have found God........yes well, maybe he has...for the wrong reason. The reason which Less alludes to.

accyman 09-11-2012 17:52

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it was reported on the news on real radio this evening that police are suspecting they have been led on a wild goose chase but are continueing to search in the area confessed to.

flashy 09-11-2012 18:45

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He's given false hope to Guilfoyles family then? Surely he will get more on his sentance for wasting police time, if this is the case?

Paz1976 09-11-2012 18:50

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you lot need to get a life seriously, nowt better to do than go on and on well funny honest!!!!!, Love looking what gets on yourlots nerves, you lot are just noisy sods with nowt else better to do and some off you saying oh i knew off his violence well you just read that from newspapers, OMG get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paz1976 09-11-2012 18:51

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see you going off the news again you lot make me laugh?????

cashman 09-11-2012 18:53

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Just look whats happened since they closed Brockhall.:rolleyes:

walkinman221 09-11-2012 19:06

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027368)
you lot need to get a life seriously, nowt better to do than go on and on well funny honest!!!!!, Love looking what gets on yourlots nerves, you lot are just noisy sods with nowt else better to do and some off you saying oh i knew off his violence and ****, well you just read that from newspapers, OMG get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down you will do yourself a mischief, and i resent being called noisy thank you.:rolleyes: And how do you know we read it in the newspaper are you calling people liars when they say that they knew of fitzpatricks issues? YOU may not know the full story for all we know, YOU may have just read it in the paper. Who knows!!! Just because peoples views of your MATE differ from yours doesnt make them wrong does it? Its all about personal experience of the matter i would say.

davemac 09-11-2012 19:09

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 1027376)
Calm down you will do yourself a mischief, and i resent being called noisy thank you.:rolleyes:


I think me meant nautical

Margaret Pilkington 09-11-2012 19:10

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027368)
you lot need to get a life seriously, nowt better to do than go on and on well funny honest!!!!!, Love looking what gets on yourlots nerves, you lot are just noisy sods with nowt else better to do and some off you saying oh i knew off his violence and ****, well you just read that from newspapers, OMG get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are defending a convicted self confessed killer. A murderer.
I think I know who should get a life....and it isn't the so called nosy sods on here.
You do not get on my nerves. Cart on lad. If you want this all to go away, it won't...not while ever you keep stoking the flames with your puerile rantings.You would be far better to go back to the stone you crawled from.
Well, I know it is only my opinion, but there you go.

flashy 09-11-2012 19:49

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027368)
you lot need to get a life seriously, nowt better to do than go on and on well funny honest!!!!!, Love looking what gets on yourlots nerves, you lot are just noisy sods with nowt else better to do and some off you saying oh i knew off his violence and ****, well you just read that from newspapers, OMG get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

did you really just say 'get a life'? You utter fool, your so called bezzy mate MURDERS someone, TAKES a life, snuffs it out for good and you have the nerve to tell us lot to 'get a life'? You silly silly person, if it was someone from your family who was killed, a brother/sister/mother/father/child how would you feel?

I think you should go away now and consider adding an 'S' to your name

Less 09-11-2012 20:16

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027368)
you lot need to get a life seriously,

Guess who doesn't have a life thanks to you're bestest kindest mate?

Perhaps you need to consider the life your bestest kindest mate snuffed out?

No, you are right, your mate did us all a favour by killing someone, Eldorado here we come.

flashy 09-11-2012 21:01

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Police have found a body

yerself 09-11-2012 21:37

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Originally Posted by flashy
Police have found a body

As flashy says.

Search for David Guilfoyle: update - Lancashire Constabulary

We can confirm that officers searching an area of Admiral's Wood near Bolton by Bowland have found a body.

cashman 09-11-2012 21:37

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1027396)
Police have found a body

Can't find any link?:confused: Hope it gives the family some closure.

Marl 09-11-2012 21:46

Please everyone think about the victims daughter and what she must be going through after all she is the innocent in this awful business and it is her father when all is said and done..Lets hope she finds closure and that she can lay her father to rest at last.

yerself 09-11-2012 21:47

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Originally Posted by cashman
Can't find any link? Hope it gives the family some closure.

Besides the one I gave just before you posted, here's another. Wanna borrow mi specs? :D:D

Police searching for remains of murdered Accrington man David Guilfoyle find a body (From Lancashire Telegraph)

accyman 09-11-2012 22:29

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Originally Posted by Marl (Post 1027401)
Please everyone think about the victims daughter and what she must be going through after all she is the innocent in this awful business and it is her father when all is said and done..Lets hope she finds closure and that she can lay her father to rest at last.

although it has got heated here and there the majority of people did think about davids family and showed no disrespect.He was a popular bloke and i dare say a lot of people reading this know him in some capacity wether it be from working with him at senator,buying some cds,playing snooker or in another personal capacity outside of work.People will discuss this and voice their opinion which no one can be blamed for since it made headline news in our area and is been followed up recently on the tv and radio.

Im sure almost everyone agrees that what his daughter and family went through and have had to re live yet again is one of the most horrifying things someone can go through and i am also sure that everyone will be thankfull that they have finally got the closure they should have gotten years ago if they have indeed found david.

If anything the majority of this thread shows that people had an idea of who he was and in no way deserved what happened.The fact that so many people on here and all over town are saying that he didnt deserve what happened shows testament to what a popular man he was.

Margaret Pilkington 10-11-2012 06:28

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Originally Posted by Marl (Post 1027401)
Please everyone think about the victims daughter and what she must be going through after all she is the innocent in this awful business and it is her father when all is said and done..Lets hope she finds closure and that she can lay her father to rest at last.

and wouldn't it be disrespectful to her to find that this forum had let someone badmouth her father ? But stick up for the murderer because he was as he put it 'a good mate'.
Personally, I think the family of David Guilfoyle would be happy to have his reputation defended in such a way.

I'm glad that they have found the body. Now perhaps he can be laid to rest by his family, and they can achieve some kind of peace in their lives.

Paz1976 10-11-2012 14:30

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yeh, glad they found the body, and that shane wasnt sending on goose chase, as some people said, yeh you are right i do feel sorry for his daughter cos she hasnt done anything wrong, sorry to sam, there always people who have to pick pieces up for other peoples wrong doings!!!, and that it is wrong for someone to take someones life, but as i have said there always a reason for things!!!!!

Less 10-11-2012 14:47

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027476)
yeh, glad they found the body, and that shane wasnt sending on goose chase, as some people said, yeh you are right i do feel sorry for his daughter cos she hasnt done anything wrong, sorry to sam, there always people who have to pick pieces up for other peoples wrong doings!!!, and that it is wrong for someone to take someones life, but as i have said there always a reason for things!!!!!

You are quite right, I agree, there is always a reason for things, your bestest mate, the one you claim to be the kindest person we could meet murdered someone and managed to keep the burial place to himself until God might give him a lesser sentence, grow up and smell the decaying body!
He should rot just as he forced his victim to rot, somewhere he can't be found, (buried alive would suit me).

Boeing Guy 10-11-2012 15:03

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Paz1976, Killing someone in the heat of the moment, such as coming home to find your partner engaging in coitus and going to the kitchen for a knife etc etc is one thing.

However when you dress in Dark clothing, commit murder then puts the body in a vehicle, drive said vehicle to burial site, put the body in the ground, protest your innocence for several years after and only when you realise you may get out early, change your story and tell where you left the body is cold blooded murder. end of, not open for discussion.

Next you will be sticking up Moors Murderers, after all there's still one poor soul still out there yet to be found.
What Fitzpatrick did is the most heinous crime, not only to MURDER someone but HIDE THE BODY as well and you think we should feel sorry for him as he has found God and repented.....
You'll be banned soon, 22 posts so far and the vast majority sticking up for a MURDERER.

Boeing Guy 10-11-2012 15:05

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027319)
Like I say I was just sticking up for my mate, it's true wot one member says, let this rest as I know the truth and slagging each other off is not guna solve anything, I apologise for any offence caused on here, but leave his son out off this, do not talk of his son in that way, and unless you really know what went on then please don't speculate on something's you clearly don't know.

Oh and on that subject, I suggest you speak to the police. If you don't I am sure one of the Mods can obtain your IP address and pass it on to them.

Less 10-11-2012 15:50

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 1027480)
Oh and on that subject, I suggest you speak to the police. If you don't I am sure one of the Mods can obtain your IP address and pass it on to them.

They will only pass it on if the police fill in the correct forms so far as data protection is concerned, otherwise, as this guy hasn't given them a reason to be banned, (even if we don't agree with his opinions), he won't be banned or have details passed on.

The site has to obey the law.

Restless 10-11-2012 23:40

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Yes this person wont be banned.... Good point less.

I think this thread however should be. Negative on the site on a whole

Mog 11-11-2012 08:04

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Originally Posted by Paz1976 (Post 1027319)
Like I say I was just sticking up for my mate, it's true wot one member says, let this rest as I know the truth and slagging each other off is not guna solve anything, I apologise for any offence caused on here, but leave his son out off this, do not talk of his son in that way, and unless you really know what went on then please don't speculate on something's you clearly don't know.

I agree that Paz1976 should not be banned because its quite apparent from all of his messages that he is an expert witness and the police should be interviewing him as a matter of course. We dont know what happened, but he does. therfore if he does know anything he should be arrested and questioned for withholding incriminating evidence for all this time.

Neil 14-11-2012 07:31

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It has just been confirmed that the body they found is David

flashy 14-11-2012 07:46

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thats good (in a way) at least his family can have a proper funeral now


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