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The Jury will deliver it's verdict at 9.30 am tomorrow on Micheal Jackson ..BET HE GETS OFF.
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Your right it's been announced he has been cleared of all charges!
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As has been said he may have been proved not guilty but he needs to re-invent himswelf and not be so nieve if he does not want a repeat ofthe last 2 years
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i am glad the trials now over,,,,,,,,it was on sky news every day and every night... but it was only actors which made it more like a play..
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O.J.SIMPSON got off as well,doesn't fill me with confidence in legal systems!
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I think when one becomes a major celebrity it becomes impossible to have a fair trial
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i think it was fair for him to get off. But still, look at what it has done to him
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Yes it's certainly cost him, health wise lets hope he takes heed of the warning it has given him.x
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And lets hope that he's left in peace now..........
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He will always be a controvercial man and will always want for limelight. Lets hope he makes a big and good comeback for the sake of his loyal fans who have been through this trial with him.
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Yes lets hope because i think he certainly deserves a second chance now...
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Me too.he does have a wonderful talent x
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thats a mockary of the current law system like oj simpson got to walk away scott free.if we all had 20 million plus pounds in our piggy bank we would use it as a get out from jail card.
the alledged victim going for all the money damages was a bit much,any one spared a thought for the alledged victim. during the trial jackson was in hospital for pneumonia and back trouble this and that.get let of last night wow he looked great !!!!!!!!!!:s_mad: :mad: :swear8: |
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He may have been found innocent by the jury, but his behaviour with children needs to be changed if this is not to happen again.I myself i'm still not decided on his innocence.
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To be honest i have not been following the trial. I dont think Michael will change his attitude towards children if this is the way he is. I wouldnt like to say if he was innocent or guilty. But it does just go to show that if you are rich and famous anything can happen.
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glad to hear michael jackson got off, to me hes always been innocent, that family who accused him needs to be prosecuted for what they done to him, so what if he has kids going to his ranch, there parents seem to think its ok, and if my kids wanted to go, i would let them too, you cant even hug a kid whos not related these days without been accused of molesting em, so ere to jacko, good on yer mate!!;)
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Kids visiting his ranch is one thing, hugging a child is one thing and I agree that it's got crazily out of proportion now where people are afraid to comfort a crying child for fear of being accused of something, but sleeping in the same bed as a child is an entirely different thing.
I look at this from the point of view of a mother and I ask myself would I be happy if a child of mine was sleeping in the same bed as a total stranger, never mind the fact that this particular stranger happens to be world famous, that's totally irrelevant. My answer is a total, complete, categorically undeniable "NO WAY!" Any other middle aged male who openly admitted to sharing his bed with young boys would be called "Pervert" and shunned but somehow because this is Michael Jackson and he's famous and he claims to have never grown up (despite drinking and reading pornography) we are supposed to see this as totally innocent like a kid's "sleepover". All I know is that I wouldn't trust him or anyone else in the same situation. It's got nothing to do with his musical talent. It simply isn't acceptable behaviour and I'm amazed at any mother who thinks it is. |
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i agree with janet @willow i'm not convinced as a mother myself i dont understand how anyone culd trust a man at his age who lets children sleep in his bed super star or not.
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I wouldnt like to say at the end of the day have you ever been accused of something you didnt do?
I have and its not nice i was at school an something had happened and the whole class blamed me for it and in the end i said i had done it (when i hadnt) and i got into trouble for it, Its not nice i can tell you and that day has stuck with me for probably about 20 years. Imagine if something like this happened to you how would you be feeling, no one has the right to judge him at the end of the day we dont know for sure either way, and the alligations against him were evil. just because an adult lets a child sleep in the same bed as them it does NOT always mean they have one thing on their mind does it! In this life there are takers and there are givers its just a pity there are more takers always thinking what they can have or get without thinking what it costs to get it, its a shame there are not more givers as being one of them is a reward in itself. |
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Surely everything we say now is pure speculation, yes he has been foolish and nieve but he has been cleared of wrong doing and nothing we can say can change that. Hopefully now he will get his life back on track and continue what he isprobably the best in thr world at doing, (entertaining). Is it not time now to drop the if I's and the I would have's, and allow this albeit misguided and vulnerable man carry on with his life.
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There's no denying the man is a musical genius and I'm hoping for a big MJ come back but the trial looks like it could have taken it's toll on him.
Who am I to judge whether he did commit the crime or not, I wasn't there, I didn't see it with my own eyes, neither have I had all the evidence presented to me like the jury in the trial have. MJ being who he is his with his naive crazy ways was always going to be left open to extortion from greedy individuals who set out to ruin an extremely talented man and a man that also appears to wear his heart on his sleeve. |
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Its a shame he did'nt get sent down. I wonder what he would have done with his wig? And what about his screw-on nose? He would'nt have been able to take those into the state pennitentuary.
However, I trust he will never again be allowed into the UK...if he is, then he should be arrested and charged with dishonouring the good name of various Army Regiments by his scandoulous wearing of their badges throughout his trial. |
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I am quite amazed at the fact no one is now questioning the facts of Martin Bashir's interview and the role of the news media in this case, they were the ones pushing for a case got one and lost and now vanish in to thin air ready for the next unsespecting headliner to make them rich.
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The Peter Pan of Pop and the Lost Boys?
Perhaps he should base his next personna on Uncle Tom's Cabin, less naivety and at least he was black. Shamoo! |
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It wasn't Martin Bashir who made the revelation in the interview about children sleeping in MJ's bed. It was Michael Jackson himself. He is incredibly naïve not to have realised that it simply isn't normal behaviour and that many people would be horrified by such an admission. In my mind it isn't a question of whether anything sexual took place I quite simply would be disgusted by any adult male in his forties sleeping in the same bed as a young kid.
Martin Bashir just let Michael Jackson dig himself into several pits and then left him the pick and shovel with which to dig himself deeper in. One other example was when the Jackson family blamed MB for accusing the father of being violent when it was Michael himself who openly and willingly told of how his father used to beat him. He wasn't stupid. He knew that was being filmed. He knows what a camera looks like. He didn't have to say those things, but he did say them. No-one else put the words in his mouth. As Tinkerbelle says we weren't there when the alleged sexual assaults took place and didn't witness any of the goings on ourselves, neither were we able to hear all that the jury heard and we have no way of knowing who told the truth about the allegations but the childlike Michael Jackson image has been changed forever, not by his accusers or by Martin Bashir and the rest of the press, but by actual facts such as the pornography found at Neverland and by the words spoken from his own lips. It doesn't make any difference that he is talented and nothing changes the fact that he's made some brilliant recordings and done some great performances but he has also done some very foolish and downright stupid things too. In all of this the people I feel most sorry for are his children. If Michael Jackson's own less than normal upbringing has made him what he is today what effect will their upbringing be having on his children? |
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So Jackson has been aquitted, not much of a surprise there. I wonder if the people who testified against him will now be charged with committing perjury?
Interestingly, I came across this in the Times this afternoon. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...653747,00.html It seems that some members of the jury were convinced of his guilt but decided to err on the side of caution because the evidence was not overwhelming enough. I'll bet the prosecuting attorney is pretty sick after hearing that admission. And now it seems that Jackson is planning to move to Europe. If he really is innocent, what is there to run away from? |
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the thing that made my mind up on his innocence were 2 things
1:the accusers in this trial were so obviously lying through their teeth stevie wonder could see it 2: witnesses came forward saying they saw jackson molest children yet when the 3 children now grown up adults and nothing to fear from jackson testified they said no jackson never did anything at all to them and one of them was a wealthy hollywood star the way i see it is that if i was molested as a child and appeared in court i would not protect my attacker and if been rich got bought you freedom there wouldnt be any rich people in jail all the prosecution had were ex employees with grudges and failed lawsuits agains jackson and a scrounging mother looking for a fast dollar the defence didnt use any dirty trick like some say, they simply produced reliable witnesses also i would like to add that i dont like jacksons music and i think hes a total nut bat but i dont think he abuses kids there were many things left un mentioned in the jordash case which were brought to light in a bbc documentary i think it was and it put a totaly different light on it jackson should have fought that case all he did was arouse suspicion when he paid for it to go away rather than fight but after this trial i can understand why he didnt want to go through a court case |
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As for flitting to Europe, surely from what is left of the sovereign power of governments there is the facility to bar undesirable aliens. If the Yanks can refuse entry to the ( unproven) terrorist funder Cat Stevens, than I'm quite sure that buffoon of a Home Secretary called Clark can red card Jacko the Paedophile. |
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It really doesn't matter what any of us think......he was subject to due legal process and was acquitted of all the charges.
It is not over for Michael Jackson though, there is some talk that the families who accused him of wrong doing are going to pusue him through the civil courts.......this happened to OJ and he was bankrupted by it. |
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I've been trying to say that all day margaret but I suppose everybody has yo have their say too.
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This is obviously a man with severe mental problems. His self-mutilation is witness to that.
Jackson has never denied that he slept with children. In his childish naiveté he did not, however, consider the implications of the euphamism, "sleeping with". I think there probably was some impropriety, it's what little boys do and Jackson seems to have the mentallity of a little boy, but I never believed that there was any sexual corruption or predation. It is my opinion that rather than facing a trial, brought about only at the instigation of complicit parents looking for financial gain, Jackson should have been referred for psychiatric treatment. Any trial should have been reserved for the parents who, willingly, allowed their children to be exposed to the possibility of abuse then screamed for Big Bucks when the opportunity arose. |
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all the ay through the case the orviso family said it wasnt about money
the orvisos have got a solicitor already to look into civil action i hope her case gets booted out before its even heard the cow should be in jail not sueing in court |
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have read all the replys with interest,what i don,t grasp is how can somebody with pornography books in his bedroom,that was proved!not to mention the wine that was supplied to minors,i just cannot understand how some people think the mans innocent,am i being thick?
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A lot of people have so called porn books although these were only over the counter books I think the large doubt created by some of the prosecution witnesses had to create an aquittal it really is the only outcome possible
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No, you're not thick, Cashman. Isn't this, though, just the sort of thing young lads do?
This man has never grown up. He behaves, and has behaved, like a young adolescent living in a fantasy world without a thought for the consequences. The point is, would you let your young son enter his world unless you thought you had something to gain from it? Would any responsible parent do so? Of course not. I fear for his children. |
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I bet he has had a very hard word from his lawyers about any repeat of his actions.
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my friends dad has an extensive porn collection which me and my friends as young teenagers used to look at as soon as his dad left the house but he isnt a peodophile
in the bedside cabinet is NOT a good place to hide porn lol when they went to get the porn from jacksons house it was in his bedroom yes but no kids were in there reading it i would have a different opinion if they had gone to get the porn from neverland and they had walked in on jackson masterbating over porn with kids in the room but they didnt |
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take your point chav, just saying i would never have let any kids of mine within a hundred miles of neverland,there grown now but their safety was always no1 prority.
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i personaly would not leave my kids with anyone unless i was there to keep an eye on them unless it is direct family or a close long term friend
i wouldnt have left my kids with jackson even before any alegations were ever made simply because i dont know him well enough although i would have visited neverand but my kids would have slept in my room no matter who it is my kids stay with me |
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Yes, the parents are to blame forputting their children in a situation with a man with previous allegations of child molestation against him.
Although it is said pedo's always target their targets well, and this family of poor but greedy down town folk seemed ripe for the picking. |
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the majority of peodophiles keep some sort of pedo porn to hand like polaroids of naked kids, pics on their computers etc
garry glitter got busted because he had kidi porn on his computer johnathan king had kidi porn on his pc wheh you see the news of pedos been invetigated almost every time they are found to posses pictures of their victims or pictures they get off the internet trading with fellow perverts the just cant help themselves not 1 piece of evidence was shown that jackson had abused a child no kiddi porn no semen / no pubic hair / no DNA was presented that had been found on any one of the alleged victims jacksons trial wa sbased on accusations and no evidence what so ever that jackson had done any sexual act on any child what so ever and it amazes me how this case ever got to court i would go as far to say that an ordinary man would not have even gone to trial but because he is famous it got media attention and a trial was produced regulars here have seen my posts on the subject of pedos and i think its fair to say that most would agree that i would slit ones throat without an ounce of remorse i dont like jackson i definatly am not a fan of his music ( although the dirty diana video was cool ) but i do agree the guy is not wired up right in the head but i dont think hes a peodophile |
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Leopards never change their spots, plastic surgery notwithstanding. It seems clear that money and reputation have won Jackson his freedom this time. Next time, and there will be a next time, he will not be so lucky. I would hazard the guess that in five or ten years time we will be sitting through another court case and yet another string of lurid allegations. |
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I find it quite disturbing that some of the jurors have said they think he is probably guilty of child molestation but they simply didn't have enough evidence to convict him in this case "beyond the shadow of doubt" which is what was required.
I had actually expected a hung jury and a retrial and perhaps those who are now saying they believe he was guilty but just not proven would have been better leaving it at that and going for a retrial with a different jury. Maybe there's also a place in the justice system for the Scottish verdict of "not proven". |
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i hate the creep,don't much like his music either,saw what the jury said willow,but much as it pains me i don't think a retrail would render a differant verdict,not sufficient evidence means just that, the scottish case of not proven is certainly one i would like to see adopted.
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