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WillowTheWhisp 10-07-2005 20:18

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What's this? Hyndburn Council have created a special memorial garden to commemorate the ending of the Second World War? On reading this plaque you might at first be forgiven for thinking so.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...tid=4311&stc=1


but step back a little and what do we find?


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...tid=4312&stc=1


It's the old useless fountain at the bottom of Ormerod Street which was eventually abandoned and filled with earth and a few choice plants. Now our illusgtrious leader would have us believe that it was all intended as a memorial garden in the first place, but we know different don't we?

Doug 10-07-2005 20:26

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Bloody hell, its not even positioned properly. Is it squire? You would hope that if they had want to act in a reasonable and practical manner they would have at leased put up a small pedestal or on a decent peace of stone………I’ll pop over either tomorrow or Tuesday and have a look at this one.

scooby12 10-07-2005 20:34

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:eek: having seen your pics just now i have realised what our council do with the tax they lovingly take from us.go to homebase and buy a bloody bench if that is what constitutes the diamond gardens then im sorry i am glad i did not fight in the second world war,sureley our friends at h.b.c could have come up with a bit of a better plan as to how to present this to the people of hyndburn and make it look a bit better than what it is.:swear8:

fireman 10-07-2005 20:48

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To me it looks more like an insult to the men and women who did what they had to in the scond world war. Notice I did'nt say fight , simply because as well as the brave soldiers sailors and airmen tens of thousands of others also played their part. I was lucky enoughto attend the VE day celebrations in Blackpool Tower lasy night , and meet some real vets, many of them in wheelchairs having lost limbs for the cause. I personally would be ashamed if some of those brave people saw what HBC put up in their honourm It reflectsvery badly on the so called leader. I don't know how he has the ordasity to put his name to it..

Bagpuss 10-07-2005 20:50

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Unbelieveable, I can't stop laughing.......until I remember how much cash that area has cost us.

cashman 10-07-2005 21:51

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that is definatley an insult to the memory and britcliffe should resign.

chav1 10-07-2005 22:51

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good to see britcliffe managed to get his name on the plaque but no mention of those who actualy lived and fought through those times

Acrylic-bob 11-07-2005 04:39

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And here we are in the middle of July, with National Celebrations in full swing, and not a single flower to be seen. In any other borough in the land such a garden would be a riot of colour all year round. Clearly most of the cost of this project was swallowed up in consultancy fees and feasibility studies and they ran out of cash before they got round to planting the flowers. Or is this like the Hanging baskets for Great Harwood and the timing of flowering is delayed on purpose for an event later in the year? My Ar*e!

How typical of HBC.

entwisi 11-07-2005 06:42

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That is distgusting!.

In now way should that be our memorial to those people who gave so much.

WillowTheWhisp 11-07-2005 07:14

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It's the same sort of attitude as claiming that 11 up and down ridges in a formation of six concentric circles known as "High Form" were intended as a tribute to the Accrington Pals.

This is NOT a memorial garden in any sense of the word. It was never purpose built as such and to claim it as one not only insults those who gave their all in WWII but also insults the intelligence of those of us living here today.

As for the esteemed Mr. Britcliffe, can there be any more example of self indulgence than to have one's own name emblazoned in glory upon such a plaque? Surly a plaque to commemorate the anniversary of the end of the war (it can only be the plaque which commemorates it after all) could well do without the name of Hyndborg's current master of mayhem emblazoned across it in letters of almost equal size.

Perhaps we should buy him a trumpet for Christmas. He's blown his own so much it must be worn out by now.

lettie 11-07-2005 07:20

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It's pathetic isn't it..... I would love to be one of those 'my cup is half full' people who believe that their local council is capable of getting something right. Unfortunately I have mislaid my rose tinted specs and am waiting to see what a hash they make of Broadway.

This is not a memorial, but an insult to everyone who gave their lives and worked so hard during the war.

Gayle 11-07-2005 07:32

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Typical... it's an insult.

That whole area looks a right mess now, and that cog wheel thingy irritates me too!

WillowTheWhisp 11-07-2005 07:43

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In that case Gayle you'll probably be even more irritated to realise that the brass plaque is fairly well hidden by the cog wheel anyway!

fireman 11-07-2005 07:53

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maybe a well worded letter to the Observer making our disgust of HBC and in particular that expensive sensation seeker Britcliffe known.

Doug 11-07-2005 18:29

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Can I ask? Was this plaque just stuck up was there an appropriate ceremony with representatives of the local clergy, the community at large, the Three Services of our Armed Forces to whom this is supposed to commemorate. To say that commemorations have been taking place for most of the week is there any sign of a service taking place at this Community commemorative focal point?

Less 12-07-2005 08:25

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Just went over to Hyndburnlite to see what they had to say about the 'new' garden, as usual the councils ultra smart high tech' information highway hasn't mentioned it at all!

On doing a search however there are thirty posts that they think are relevent.

http://www.hyndburnlife.co.uk/rounda...emorial+garden

P.S. don't bother clicking on the link although it does work there is NOTHING interesting at the end of it!


http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_2_201v.gif

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 09:08

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Originally Posted by Doug
Can I ask? Was this plaque just stuck up was there an appropriate ceremony with representatives of the local clergy, the community at large, the Three Services of our Armed Forces to whom this is supposed to commemorate. To say that commemorations have been taking place for most of the week is there any sign of a service taking place at this Community commemorative focal point?


Well I just happened upon it almost by accident Doug so if it there was any ceremony I didn't hear about it. The "garden" has existed for years as a fountain that never worked from day one and was often full of litter and stagnant stinking water. Eventually it was drained, filled with soil and the plants stuck in. We presumed this was because it is located outside Scaitcliffe House and the council workers wanted something nicer to look at than the cesspool.

Although I have often passed this area on my way into town I'd never even noticed the plaque, which is tucked away behind the cog wheel, until the other night when I specifically set out with camera to photograph something else and stopped to look at the cog wheel. That was when I noticed the cog wheel's new sign in such a prominent place itself (ie on the floor where no-one can see it) and then curiosity overcame me and I went up to look at the brass plaque and was gobsmacked at the audacity of Hyndborg BC to have claimed this ex-eyesore as a memorial garden

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 09:10

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Originally Posted by Less
On doing a search however there are thirty posts that they think are relevent.

:D Oh Less you just gotta love Hyndburnlite don't ya?

lettie 12-07-2005 10:53

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I have just clicked on your link Less and as you stated, it leads to nothing. I did click on discussions though and found that there hasn't been a post on there since May!!!!!! Now I'm sure that fact has been mentioned in another thread, but it is so important that I felt it needed mentioning twice.

Can anybody tell me how many hundreds of thousands of pounds has been spent to create this non-existent, waste of time website? It's pretty obvious that whoever has set this site up is clueless and has only rudimentary knowledge of computing. I wonder what kind of salary this apprentice is commanding for producing this rubbish......:rolleyes:

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 10:56

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The creator claims to be a web wizard but I think they also double as a hairdresser.

The words "don't give up the day job" come to mind.

I can't help wondering where HBC found this person.

Gayle 12-07-2005 15:18

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It was set up by a Google Page Ranking company called Viva Google Page Ranking. I don't know if they still manage it because a few months ago there was an advert in Acc Obs for a portal manager which was the management of the website - I think there's another thread on here about it because someone said Roy could have done it in his sleep. I don't know if anyone was appointed or not but by chance, I do know that the pendlelife website (which is uncannily like hyndburnlife) has had someone appointed.

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 15:46

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Not uncanny really Gayle as they were both created by the same person, and they weren't going under the name of Viva Google Page Ranking on their own site where they showed off the creations of both Hyndburn- and Pendle- life

Doug 12-07-2005 17:38

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I had a walk around this afternoon, I was surprised how open the area is I don’t remember it being so, then again it was some time ago since I was last down there. The bloc work paving was relatively good if some what confusing; the cog was larger than I had anticipated and looked like it was in need of a repaint. The Memorial Plaque is becoming tarnish and looks like it’s been drawn on and badly cleaned. I also noted the large area set a side for the kids to skateboard which had been decimated by the paint wielding element of local graffiti artiest. This is quite a wide expanse of land that could have been put to better use has a community focal point displaying themes of our past heritage as well a memorial to those that served the town and their country. Before my critic jumps into slap my wrists again “and on reflection, quite rightly so” but that’s another story, I am deeply proud of my heritage and don’t take any pleasure in criticising Accrington or it’s people.

Gayle 12-07-2005 18:12

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Not uncanny really Gayle as they were both created by the same person, and they weren't going under the name of Viva Google Page Ranking on their own site where they showed off the creations of both Hyndburn- and Pendle- life

What name were they going by?

Less 12-07-2005 19:32

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For those of you who didn't see it when it was first mentioned on accyweb below is a link to the thread:-


Bagpuss 12-07-2005 21:14

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Doug have you had a look at Atarahs website recently?
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...CELLANEOUS.htm

She has a few pictures of that area taken a few years ago, worth a look.

Doug 12-07-2005 21:24

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No I haven't for a while Bagpuss, I'll get myself a beer and go and have a look. This shot is way before my time (I hope) but it still brings a wee flood to the eyes. It’s deep, brooding and wet. I love the shop signs and the lamp post, them I do remember......The Pit head would have been well known to some of my relatives. Makes you shiver don't you think?

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 21:47

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Originally Posted by Gayle Knight
What name were they going by?

"Clicks and Links"

CLICK here for the link.

If you scroll down the page you'll see them also referring to the name "The Nesco Group" and showing both the Hyndburn and Pendle websites.

When there were originally problems with accessing Hyndburnlife I wrote to them (Clicks and Links) to try to explain what the problem was and what the possible solution could be but the response I got was in the vein of "Don't write to us about it. Hyndburnlife are fully in control and know what they are doing." Unfortunately they didn't and wouldn't listen to helpful advice, merely seeing it as negative criticism despite the fact that people were unable to register and then having registered were unable to log on. It's hardly surprising they have very few active members. At the time all that money was spent on advertising people tried but simply couldn't access the thing. When it was eventually sorted out the novelty had obviously worn off and people stopped trying.

Gayle 12-07-2005 22:16

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Oh, well. Perhaps the guy I knew from Viva Google Page Ranking was just hired to publicise the site. I once sent in a press release (I keep them informed even though no one reads it) and he emailed back to me.

acertun 13-07-2005 13:39

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Maybe Mr. Britcliffe should explain to the vets why he had the gall to have the so called tribute put there with his publicity seeking name attached. Then again the guttless wonder would shy away from confrontation and bad publicity. He should be asked to tender his resignation and kiss the asses of all the vets that are left to attone for this thoughtless insult


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