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chav1 11-07-2005 14:59

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went down town at dinner and half of broadway was fenced off

been down later this afternoon and the digger has started digging up those damned cobbles

hip hip hooray :)

Acrylic-bob 11-07-2005 15:20

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No photos????????

Debbie J 11-07-2005 15:26

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Just got back from town. Why are they ripping up the cobbles as they haven't been down long & what are they going to replace them with

cashman 11-07-2005 15:26

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saw it this morning fenced off.its the finished job i wonder about lol

chav1 11-07-2005 15:36

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Originally Posted by Debbie J
Just got back from town. Why are they ripping up the cobbles as they haven't been down long & what are they going to replace them with

i have no idea what they are replacingthem with but i hope it is going to be somthing that isnt as slippy as ice when wet like the cobbles were

cashman 11-07-2005 16:03

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ive no idea either what they are being replaced with,just dont hold out much hope for something nice and practical after all it is H.B.C. lol

Mick 11-07-2005 16:10

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will be in town tomorrow pics to follow
watch this space .............if i can get up:D

chav1 11-07-2005 16:20

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
No photos????????

with all the skimpy dressed women in town today i highy doubt my camera would have been drawn to pointing at the floor lol

-pixie 11-07-2005 19:26

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Originally Posted by chav1
with all the skimpy dressed women in town today i highy doubt my camera would have been drawn to pointing at the floor lol

*cough*:rolleyes:

The fencing it right outside my shop. It feels like we are ina prison camp - it took them about 5 hours to get the fences up though, so I don't see the work being finished anytime soon!

Margaret Pilkington 11-07-2005 19:58

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Like I said in another post.....I heard a man from the Council telling the Manageress of the heart foundation shop that they would have it completed by Christmas......!

chav1 11-07-2005 20:02

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looking forward to christmas 2015 then ;)

apest1 11-07-2005 21:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Like I said in another post.....I heard a man from the Council telling the Manageress of the heart foundation shop that they would have it completed by Christmas......!

sounds about right for the council, dig it up say 3days , let it fill up with water 2months , fix it 21days , fill in 3days , job tacks 3months....... thats ok...

WillowTheWhisp 11-07-2005 23:13

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I'll be having a look when I go down on Wednesday. I feel sorry for those of you who work in the shops.

Mick 12-07-2005 07:39

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Just for you Acrylic-bob i got up at 6am and took these pics........ yawn
They were taken at about 6-30am .
if you look the forman is on site already hehe

Mick 12-07-2005 07:40

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Here is the rest
Please note the forman in the 3rd pic ready to start work also the last pic rubbish outside the Town hall hehe
I will go down again in a few days and take some more.
This will give them a chance to have a brew and get there shovels of the lorry.
And to wake the forman up !:)

cashman 12-07-2005 09:12

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don't think hes the foreman mick.looks like the site manager pmsl

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 09:21

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Good grief! Broadway looks like a no-go area.

Great photis Mick. What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

Less 12-07-2005 09:22

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Please don't take the p*ss, it's my new job, I've been taken on as nightwatchman to ensure that none of the expensive materials go missing!
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_2_120.gif

(Any-one interested in purchasing some second hand sets they aren't that old if so see me third bench on the right any night except week-ends).

Mick 12-07-2005 09:46

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

I dont really know ,im always up around 5-30 6am anyway

Acrylic-bob 12-07-2005 17:43

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Thanks for the Pics Mick, you are an example to us all.

I had to laugh at the pic labelled 3.jpg. Can anyone tell me what is the point of putting a traffic sign at the top of Cornhill to inform drivers that Broadway is a Pedestrian Zone. I would have thought that if they had taken the time and trouble to drive all the way down Broadway to get into Cornhill in the first place that they would aleady be perfectly well aware that Broadway was a Pedestrian Zone.

I had a look along Blackburn Road from the end of Church Street on Sunday morning and was amazed at the number of traffic signs. It's a wonder there aren't more accidents caused by drivers being too distracted to be able to look where they are going.

This is one of the main reasons that HBC is short of cash. Rather than spend on things that are really necessary they throw it at road signage and putting numbers on every piece of street furniture in sight.

Doug 12-07-2005 17:53

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Nice Photos Mick. I know this about Broadway, but have people seen the amount of Rose Bay Willow Herb growing on the top of the Market Hall and quite a few other buildings around the area. This can only be causing further damage to the stone work.

Gayle 12-07-2005 18:16

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Did you see the smiling picture of PB in the Lancs Eve Tel? It's clearly ALL his idea....lol

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 20:54

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What is? The Rose Bay Willow Herb? :D

(sorry... heehee)

Doug 12-07-2005 21:06

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It’s vigorous and will grow anywhere the seeds settle. The seeds are the nice fluffy things you see floating around on the breeze. It loves Railways and disturbed sites. You will remember it has the bloody stuff that boarders the allotments in summer and get everywhere. Long straight green stems with a perfusion of nice pick flowers and s*** loads of fluffy seeds.

WillowTheWhisp 12-07-2005 21:35

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I think I should have quoted Gayle's post in my post. :D

Doug 12-07-2005 21:44

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
I think I should have quoted Gayle's post in my post. :D

:o ..............................;) sorry Willow.

park381 14-07-2005 07:25

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Has anyone seen any plans, of what they are trying to do, or are they making it up as they go along :confused:

cashman 14-07-2005 10:25

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might i suggest changing the title of the thread-was down this morning at 10-00 and passed through again at 10-40 saw not a soul i suggest work has stopped lol

WillowTheWhisp 14-07-2005 10:29

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It didn't look like they'd got very far when I was down there yesterday.

Steph 14-07-2005 11:37

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Well i just got back from town and i can't say i saw any workers

Steph 14-07-2005 11:38

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Sorry but do we yet know what they are trying to do, if anything?

WillowTheWhisp 14-07-2005 11:49

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"Various materials" flowers and benches just about sums it up. Don't ask me what "various materilas" means because I haven't a clue. That was HBC-speak.

entwisi 14-07-2005 13:39

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Dog dirt, Crisp packets, these are all various materials. :)

park381 14-07-2005 14:05

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Originally Posted by cashman
might i suggest changing the title of the thread-was down this morning at 10-00 and passed through again at 10-40 saw not a soul i suggest work has stopped lol

Hey, come on they need their "Tea Breaks" :D

cashman 14-07-2005 19:16

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went through again about 2-20 saw 2 men talking and 3 just stood their in the top section the town hall end section was empty.

Margaret Pilkington 14-07-2005 19:39

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I've seen more working in a Beechams Pill.......they are as slow as a Gods Horse.
Went down this am.......two fellas leaning on shovels having a fag......that's a job and a half.

WillowTheWhisp 14-07-2005 21:44

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What's a "God's horse"? That's an expression I've never heard before.

Margaret Pilkington 15-07-2005 13:38

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Willow.......i don't know.......it is something my Grandma used to say if I was being very slow with something.......I never ever thought to ask her at the time........maybe somone on here will know.

Oh and the work being done is supposed to have a winding pathway of 'speckled'stones.

park381 15-07-2005 14:29

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Oh and the work being done is supposed to have a winding pathway of 'speckled'stones.

would that be yellow brick :D leading to PB's office

WillowTheWhisp 15-07-2005 15:12

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Apparently there are also "four or more poplar type trees" involved in it somewhere.

Four or more? Would that be five or twenty seven or three humdred and sixty one?

lindsay ormerod 15-07-2005 17:41

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We [the barricaded retailers] have been told it involves totally resurfacing Broadway;provision of new lamp post,benches,planters,bins etc. It is scheduled to be finished by October.Stainless steel was mentioned for some of the street furniture.

To be honest we have seen very little progress;due to the fact that there only appears to be 2 blokes on "the job" . And once again our takings have plummetted because no-one can actually get past our store and that of Poundland.I am grateful that they are doing our stretch first,at least it's Accy hols and traditionally quiet anyway! Will see what happens when they do the bit upto the front of the store;that is supposed to be done outside trading hours.... hmmm.;)

park381 15-07-2005 18:04

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Why not ask HBC for some "compen" for the loss of takings over the period of the contract:)

lindsay ormerod 15-07-2005 18:07

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Will be watching the figures very carefully over the next few weeks and photos are off to head office tomorrow! We were told there would be a thoroughfare thru from the Arndale entrance to our side of Broadway but that doesn't seem to have happened! Grrr.:mad:

WillowTheWhisp 15-07-2005 21:58

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They'll be meaning that part where the army were parked the other day.

Doug 27-07-2005 22:30

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It’s been two or three weeks since work started on Broadway. I did some shopping this afternoon and I can’t say much work as been done since the start. Have I missed something or is it a case that only a few slabs and a few inches of tarmac as been shifted? I did notice some edging going down but come on, you’d think that they’d carry out an archaeological survey its been that slow?

-pixie 28-07-2005 06:11

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Apparently the ground is too soft and they need to reinforce it with concrete before they start laying flags/stones/whatever down. They didn't anticipate for this, so work is going to go on for longer than expected. Retailers affected by the railings and the ones at the opposite side are going to be asked to close for one Sunday so that they can do the work upto the doors.
All good fun and games.:rolleyes:

park381 28-07-2005 07:36

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Originally Posted by -pixie
Apparently the ground is too soft and they need to reinforce it with concrete before they start laying flags/stones/whatever down. They didn't anticipate for this, so work is going to go on for longer than expected. Retailers affected by the railings and the ones at the opposite side are going to be asked to close for one Sunday so that they can do the work upto the doors.
All good fun and games.:rolleyes:

Ah, here we go additional work, additional cost
Thought trial holes had been dug to establish the nature of the ground before work started. :rolleyes:

Gayle 28-07-2005 08:39

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Why am I not surprised?

lettie 28-07-2005 09:16

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Are the retailers who are going to have to close for a day going to be compensated for their lost trade on that day???????

-pixie 28-07-2005 09:20

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I don't know Lettie. At the moment we have absolutley no plans to shut up shop for a day as we were promised that it wouldn't interfere, and that this work would be done out of hours. I'll keep you posted on what HBC have to say.

fireman 28-07-2005 09:24

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When I passed the other day the conractors were breaking up a concrete base and were struggling every few inches to cut through steel reinforcing bars. Is this so that they can replace them with the new ones to make the ground even harder. I bet this will make a large hole in the alloted £250,000. The mind boggles.

Owd Bert 28-07-2005 09:27

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Doesn`t seem so very long ago does it but who knows the Month & Year ?

fireman 28-07-2005 09:40

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Not got a clue Bert but notice the old market is still standing

garinda 28-07-2005 10:33

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Three years ago? 2002?

Two weeks ago I had to wait up Colditz alley outside Lindsay's shop, [l did call in to say hi, but it was your day off.]

In the half hour l was waiting l watched three men in their van trying to work a massive inbuilt tea urn/boiler thingy.

I do so hope they've managed to make their tea, from the progress l saw this week l'm not too hopeful.

I too read of stainless steel being mentioned in the design of things!??

Let's just hope that whoever at the council, who is in charge of awarding the contracts, has this time stipulated that after the finished work has been allowed to settle, any defects will be rectified as part of the job, unlike the appalling paving that was done the last time work was done on Britcliffe Way.

Acrylic-bob 28-07-2005 16:10

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They didn't anticipate that the ground was too soft???? With the amount of digging up and demolition that has taken place on broadway in the last fifty years you would imagine that there would be ream upon ream of geological surveys in the planning department. Or is rather that they are too stupid and too bone idle to consult them? Or is this just another standard excuse handed out by contractors who find that they have bitten off more than they can chew?

park381 28-07-2005 19:16

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
They didn't anticipate that the ground was too soft???? With the amount of digging up and demolition that has taken place on broadway in the last fifty years you would imagine that there would be ream upon ream of geological surveys in the planning department. Or is rather that they are too stupid and too bone idle to consult them? Or is this just another standard excuse handed out by contractors who find that they have bitten off more than they can chew?

If the project had been tendered then we could blame the specifier HBC for missing it out of the tender docs, but since it's been handed to this contractor on a plate, we can still blame HBC for not doing their homework in the first place.............so at the end of the day it's yet another HBC c*** up. What was the figure £25k, more like £35k by the time it's all finished

Acrylic-bob 28-07-2005 20:29

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There is something funny in the figures too. in the spring when the Idiot-in-Chief proposed the scheme he said, on several occaisions, that HBC could only scrape together £250,000 for it. Last week in the Observer (page 24) the figures were quoted as £25,000 plus a further £10,000 from Lancashire Local's Innovation Fund, for the benches. Apparently the Rotary Club is also coughing up £10,000 for yet more bl**dy mosaics.

Correct me if I am wrong, but there is a hell of a difference between £250,000 and £45,000.

Compared with what other boroughs in East Lancs are spending I had thought that we were being given the shi**y end of the stick with a mere £250K for Broadway. Now it seems we are not even getting that much! What is going on???????

chav1 29-07-2005 01:43

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by the time all the c0ckups and money is sorted out we will end up with one of these at each corner of broadway and think our selves lucky we got this much lol

http://www.bizsmart.net/images/light...lf%20baked.gif

WillowTheWhisp 29-07-2005 08:47

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Ground too soft? Too soft for what? What the heck are they planning to do? It used to be a main road down there not to mention a bus route. It seemed fairly solid then, apart of course from the fact that there's a river under there somewhere. Do they know that I wonder?

park381 29-07-2005 11:45

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Am :confused: Pixie is posting saying the ground is to soft, Fireman is posting saying the contractors are breaking up a concrete base with steel reinforcing bars.

Are we all talking about the same site - the broadway project

chav1 29-07-2005 11:51

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
It seemed fairly solid then, apart of course from the fact that there's a river under there somewhere. Do they know that I wonder?

funny you shuold say that because i went down today and watched them and thought they were digging a little deep considering theres a river under there

anyway work suddenly stopped and all of them went over to look at what had happened and a few of them started coveringtheir noses with their T-Shirts

maybe they dug a little too deep and hit the river stink lol

park381 29-07-2005 12:55

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Originally Posted by chav1
funny you shuold say that because i went down today and watched them and thought they were digging a little deep considering theres a river under there

anyway work suddenly stopped and all of them went over to look at what had happened and a few of them started coveringtheir noses with their T-Shirts

maybe they dug a little too deep and hit the river stink lol

Could be fireman saw them trying to dig through the top of the culvert housing the river, that must be the secret addition to broadway, a low level water feature, only to work when the culvert is blocked, or the river is in flood, then again it could be a secret bunker for PB :D

garinda 29-07-2005 13:00

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Broadway- The Venice of the North.

Stinking,sinking fast and full of s**t.

Hopefully not.

Perhaps we could have gondolas instead of stainless steel benches to sit on?

park381 29-07-2005 13:18

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Originally Posted by garinda
Broadway- The Venice of the North.

Stinking,sinking fast and full of s**t.

Hopefully not.

Perhaps we could have gondolas instead of stainless steel benches to sit on?

What about "A tunnel of love" entrance via long drop on broadway

fireman 29-07-2005 16:06

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Yes we are daft int it.

fireman 08-10-2005 15:10

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Well I just thought I would resurect this thread.. Yesterday I walked along Broadway. It's half finished and it'only been under way since July. The one thing that stands out in the refurbishment, is the fact that even though the project is only half finished, the buff coloured flags they have laid already are stained, stuck with chewing gum and look very scruffy. Definayely a good choice of colour HBC. Do you ever consider the future of this town, How is Broadway going to look in another 4 months.

Margaret Pilkington 08-10-2005 15:16

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And the black tarmac doesn't really convey the sophisticated look we were led to believe was what they wanted.......and when Sandra Hayes has finished getting Ossy in order......could she please organise a litter pick up round Broadway and the market.....? It is pig hole.

fireman 08-10-2005 15:43

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I agree it would have been better turfed ...........

fireman 08-10-2005 15:46

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Or better still a fast flowing river along Broadway witha long tunnel at each end that no one knows its outlet. That would sort out some of the plonkers who wish to turn our town into a pig sty at night (can I say PIG)

SPUGGIE J 08-10-2005 15:49

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There is someone in HBC who must care this cannot go on like this its a disgrace
:o

fireman 08-10-2005 19:10

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They seem to leap from one disaster to the next without a thought for us people who have to love with their blunders.

park381 08-10-2005 19:36

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Originally Posted by fireman
Well I just thought I would resurect this thread.. Yesterday I walked along Broadway. It's half finished and it'only been under way since July. The one thing that stands out in the refurbishment, is the fact that even though the project is only half finished, the buff coloured flags they have laid already are stained, stuck with chewing gum and look very scruffy. Definayely a good choice of colour HBC. Do you ever consider the future of this town, How is Broadway going to look in another 4 months.

HBC choose the colour lol, bet the contractor got a job lot cheap :D and told HBC that's what yer gettin


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