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fireman 28-07-2005 12:37

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A body has been recovered from the Leeds Liverpool canal near to Barden Lane in Burnley. Police are not releasing any information about the body.

Coincidentally a man from the Hapton area has been arrested and is being questioned re the missing Accrington man David Guilfoyle. Could it be connected, are they getting nearer to the truth, lets hope so........

grannyclaret 28-07-2005 12:43

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how horrible....hope its soon sorted ,,i would hate to find a body.. thats something for the tele soaps..

harwood red 28-07-2005 13:35

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sounds almost too much of a coincidence to me. If it is david then it will give some closure to the family my thoughts are with them it must be a horrendous time for them

Acrylic-bob 28-07-2005 16:12

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If it is the missing person he can't be in too pleasant a condition. This is one of those times when the Police actually justify the money spent on them.

Doug 28-07-2005 16:24

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
If it is the missing person he can't be in too pleasant a condition. This is one of those times when the Police actually justify the money spent on them.

Now A-B, I’m sure that they earn it over and over again, death finds them in many ways and not always pleasantly. RTAs, Unexpected deaths of relatives that someone remembers to pay a call on weeks after they have died. Suicides? Long drops etc, Child deaths and of course this unpleasant episode. I wouldn’t want to be Policeman today…..If this does turn out to be the gentleman in question then my sympathies goes to is family and not least his daughter. No one deserves to die before there natural time and no one should suffer death in such a violent manner and be denied a decent burial.

fireman 28-07-2005 17:03

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Been anounced that the man arrested has now been charged with the murder oo David Guilfoyle.

cashman 28-07-2005 18:01

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deepest sympathy to the family, you can only imagine their torment.

fireman 28-07-2005 18:08

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I know it sounds rather ominous but the connection has not yet been verified...His family must be distraught ,.

grego 28-07-2005 19:16

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Just been on the BBC website and they report that a man has been charged with murder, they name the man also, sorry there's no link not sure how to do that.

park381 28-07-2005 19:22

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Yep it's a sad time, police have worked hard on this one, think the underwater team have been at the lodge on hyndburn road for a few days this week.Deepest sympathy to the family.

Bazf 28-07-2005 19:40

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/4723803.stm

Heres the bbc story

lettie 28-07-2005 19:46

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Thanks for the link Bazf. Can they verify whether the body is that of Dave Guilfoyle? I didn't think that you could charge for murder in the abscense of a body. Then again they never found the body of the lady on Burnley Rd either.......

fireman 28-07-2005 19:51

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Their has been no connection mentioned yet between the discovery of the body in the canal and the charging of the man from Hapton.

grego 28-07-2005 19:55

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Thats true Fireman but the charging is in connection with Dave Guilfoyle and can they charge murder without a body? Not sure.

lettie 28-07-2005 19:58

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They must be able to charge without a body if they have enough evidence pointing to murder, as in the Burnley Rd case, but I should think that they would be on pretty shaky ground. They would have to be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was murder...

grego 28-07-2005 20:05

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In the Burnley Road case they found traces of her blood in the kebab shop didn't they? It will be good for the family of Dave esp Sammy if there's closure, even if the news isn't what you really want to hear.

g78 28-07-2005 20:13

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If there is enough evidence to make a case that someone was murdered then a person can be charged with the act of murder, even if there is no body to be found.

grego 28-07-2005 20:17

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Hopefully there will be a press release soon which will at least put an end to the speculation.

Acrylic-bob 28-07-2005 20:33

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What happened to Habeus Corpus?????

fireman 28-07-2005 20:36

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They obtained a conviction with the burnley road case with no body. They must know what they are doing.

apest1 28-07-2005 23:16

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Just hope for the family, that this is end of it.......

BLACKBURN RAVER 29-07-2005 12:37

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
What happened to Habeus Corpus?????

and for those like me who dont know latin ...

Habeus Corpus is a Latin term which means "you should have the body," and is a legal principle which requires that the government must present an accused and arrested person before an impartial judge in order to prove that there exists just cause to hold that person against his or her will.
Without the Writ of Habeus Corpus (traditionally called the "Great Writ"), a government could hold a person in jail for any length of time without having to prove that there is any good reason for doing so. Thus, if you are being held by the government, you can request a writ of habeus corpus and, if a court issues it, then the government must bring you to that court and demonstrate that they have arrested you for a compelling reason. If they cannot, then they must set you free.

The principle of habeus corpus also refers to the power of federal courts to review the legal decisions made by lower state courts. Thus, if you think that you have been unjustly convicted in a state court, then you can appeal to a federal court. If your appeal is approved, the federal court can issue a writ, requiring that government officials bring you before it so that your case can be reviewed. This oversight authority has been restricted in recent years, in particular with regards to death penalty convictions. The ability to request a hearing before a federal court means that it takes longer for a death sentence to be carried out, and about 40% of capital convictions are overturned on federal review. Supporters of the death penalty find this unacceptable and have successfully lobbied for less federal oversight.

It should be noted that a person's right to a writ of habeus corpus was the only one considered important enough to be included in the original text of the Constitution.

grannyclaret 29-07-2005 13:07

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i diddent know that b, r, you learn something every day.
my sympathy to the family

garinda 29-07-2005 13:09

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Thanks Raver, but how will Acrylic-bob be able to Lord it over us if you explain his posts for us???;)

Like everybody else l'm sure it's his daughter I feel sorry for, and hope she finds some peace.

harwood red 29-07-2005 16:13

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it's odd how in the LET it has been reported about the arrest but no mention of any body been recovered be it david or not!!!?

BLACKBURN RAVER 29-07-2005 16:59

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yeah i read the article and thought the same, maybe there is actually no body and it is just the old rumour mill churning again

fireman 29-07-2005 19:09

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\no its not a rumour I heard it myself on radio lancashire yesterday but reported then that no connection had been mentioned.

Graham Jones 02-08-2005 22:12

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Shane Fitzpatrick and has been charged with murder and is currently in prison on remand. He may apply for bail. I don't think the body is connected.

Acrylic-bob 03-08-2005 04:56

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So who's was the body?????

Is this possibly a case for our intrepid crime fighting duo Doug and Sandra Hayes???

Doug 03-08-2005 14:43

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
So who's was the body?????

Is this possibly a case for our intrepid crime fighting duo Doug and Sandra Hayes???

Who?...................................

garinda 03-08-2005 15:03

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Originally Posted by Doug
Who?...................................


Local Councillors, not half as good as Gayle Knight and Rindy Roo at discovering 'stuff'..:D :D

staggeringman 03-08-2005 17:08

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the body found in the canal was that of a young person from burnley,not the body of anyone you thought it was!

grego 03-08-2005 19:51

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Thanks for that Staggers, was wondering whether the body was Dave and nothing had been mentioned for a while.


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