Teenagers smoking
 

I just happened to be driving past the entrance to moorhhead this morning, and almost every school kid i saw had a cigarette in their hand or in their mouth. I myself am a smoker, so feel more justified to talk about the evils of smoking oppose to those that never have, first hand knowledge and all that, why do the schools not have someone walking the streests in the morning and punish these children if not for smoking, but for bringing the school into disripute or something, i remeber years ago getting into trouble in my school uniform, and having that 1 used against me, and why are more shops not been prosocuted for selling under 16`s fags, not much excuse when they are in their uniform, dont fine the shops just take their licence to sell them away for six months or so, they dont make much money out of tobacco, its the other goods that are sold at the same time as someone buys it, it would be far more effective than a fine.

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Kids at school will always have access to fags regardless of punishment dished out to the retailers. It will be more worrying when they are running around with vodka 20/20 or other alcohol during school times. When I was at Moorhead if we were caught the fags were confiscated and no doubt got smoked in the staff room at break. Street cred has a lot to do with the amount of smoking as it did in my time. If a kid wants to smoke then short of locking them in a room away from others and their influence it will alwas happen.

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teachers used to patrol the yard @perimiter in my day,didn't stop us we thought it was cool,now i think its stupid @ dangerous(too late was the cry) i still smoke!

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I had to go and give a talk at a school in Burnley in March. I was very suprised to see children of all ages in the playground in their break puffing away. Shocking lack of discilpine.

Where do children buy cigarettes from? It's illegal to sell them to them and should be clamped down on.

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lets hope it is just tobbacco:joint:

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Some how I doubt GC its has a high street cred value being stoned and proberly the highest if at school.:eek:

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To answer your question Dazzalam streets around schools are not patrolled because whatever a child does outside school hours and gates has nothing to do with the school. To me this is wrong but teachers say the job is hard enough in school time without worrying about what the kids are up to outside hours

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So what happens if a kid his hit by a bus outside the gate in school hours then?

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the job is very hard these days, but i think thats down to a lack of disipline not brought about by the teachers,but by my old fav the doo-good brigade. :(

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A point to note is that some kids still at school are already 16 and legally old enough to smoke and enter shops legally and buy them.
When my son enters year 11 he will be 16 on the 5th Sep. Still a full year left at school but still legal to smoke. Thank god, he aint that daft and cant stand people smoking around him.

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Well a least here is one teenager who has more sence than the others.

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That's an interesting point; why aren't the health fascists patroling the school yards to root out underage smoking and insisting that retailers who peddle tobacco products to kids are brought before the law?

Teachers are forever whining about how much they care about their pupil's welfare, if they care so much why arent they doing more to stop their pupils from lighting up in the first place. I was incensed at lunchtime when I was listening to what Ruth Kelly had to say about banning certain foods from school meals. She decribed the current state of school meals as a "scandal". Well, excuse me, Miss-right-on-message-Kelly, but isn't the "scandal" down in the first instance to Government underfunding and in the second instance to the descisions of the teaching profession who claim to care so much about the welfare of our children?

As a smoker myself I think that the only way to encourage children who have taken up the habit to stop is to put them in a warm, unventilated room and not to let them out until they have smoked their way through several packets of Capstan Full Strength, one after the other, until they can no longer whine about the violation of their human rights because they are too busy vomiting! Sometimes you have to be cruel to kind.

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Good piont Ab i wonder if the tax money on fags has something to do with it not being taken seriously?

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When did it change then?

The teachers patrolled the streets around school when I was at Moorhead. It was also common knowledge to all students that if you got caught smoking, or any member of the public rang in to school to complain about any misbehaviour whilst we were wearing the schools uniform, even outside of school hours, we were in deep mire the next day at school!

Of course there was a way round it we used to take our school ties off while misbehaving ;)

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Ah remember that well yeh Moorhead was stricter them days & maybe why they got more respect than nowadays. You brought shame on the school in or out while in uniform then shame was brought on you too but with this new attitude no wonder it has problems!!

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The old uniform was best with no badge so of comes the tie when causing trouble and into the pocket. Any way best use for the tie was keeping my pants up. And you hit the 5th year and provided you had a high collar jumper there was no tie hence when minus the blazer you could be anybody misbahaving and no-one was the wiser.

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aahh yeah you lads had to wear blazers, it's good to be a girl :D

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When I was there girls wore them as well.
:p

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I would have liked to have seen them try to get me to wear one ;)

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PMSL not a cat in hells chance eh tinks although there was one girl whom did :D LOL

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ASM was that you by any chance.
:eek:

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Yeah I remember ... H.B. :D Now we know why she wasn't one of the smokers, blame it on the blazer, she'd have been to easy to spot and face the rath of McHale ;)

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Teachers Pet thats why pmslmao:D

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Well at least he tried to stop people smoking unlike now when they dont care one bit. They dont want their caffine and nicotine breaks interrupted. :D

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Gee i remember being in staff room once & it used to stink of stale smoke & coffee tho same in english block as well tho that was cigars & whiskey!! & it weren't owt to do with the pupils:rolleyes:

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And to think that lot handed out moral guidence to use on why it was bad for us. :D

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Teachers pet ..... that's 2 words you could use I suppose ;)



lol! I wasted many fags thanks to McHale appearing out of no were! I also burnt a hole in my jacket when the only place I could hide it was in my pocket :(

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Heres a thought did the teachers ever buy there own considering the number of packets taken of pupils? :confused:

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PMSL!!! yeh i remember that you ended up with that many burn holes in it even though we had lookouts pmsl:)

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Naaaa they would be smoking for free in staff rooms why do you think they paraded for us smokers, i know reason why times changed they cant smoke in staff room nowadays so not worth the bother LOL

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:smoky: Iam suprised they are not outside with the kids :joint:

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Probably more likley to be in the bog snorting something to get them through the day.

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someone mentioned how it used to be a lot stricter at moorhead way back when, does anyone know if they still make you stand when another teacher enters the classroom?

i remember when i was "asked to leave moorhead", and went to hollins and the first time this happened i looked a right pratt when i was the only one that stood up!

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I think its terrible that nothing is done to stop them these days, though realistically what can they do. I dont smoke now and haven't done for years but I did on and off at school and was caught twice, the fact that I'd been caught didn't bother me at all, fags were conviscated, got lines once and litter picking on the second occasion and that was it. I hate seeing teenagers smoke now, they think the're cool or hard but really I just think its sad.

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It is sad grego and as the saying goes "if only we could put old head on young shoulders" :)

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Ah those were the days Jo detention litter pickin and all for a crafty drag. :)

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Well my mum did that to me when I was 14 only it was NO 6s if I remember right, it didn't work and I smoked for another 20yrs but now I find it the most repulsive thing in the world, the smell, the taste and all them tab ends in ashtrays, she would have been very proud to know her punishment eventualy worked.

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Most people want a young head on their old shoulders.

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they didnt make you stand when i went there and i left 5 year ago, kids used to buy there ciggies for 20p a fag, they used to either pinch them of there parents or buy them the night before like most do nowadays. kids around the area i live now, there is one certain 6 year old yes 6 year old who stands outside the corner shop with his friends who are about 14 maybe 15 and ask every single person walking into the shop if they would buy fags for them and surprising ebough it always seems to be the elder teenagers and young twentie year olds that actually buy them for the kids.
if kids can get away with buying booze under 18 they can sure enough get away with buying cigarettes under 16.
my parents threatend me that if i ever touched a fag they would make me smoke a whole packet till i was sick, ive still never touched one to this day.