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Did you read in the Lancs Eve Tel today about the president of the Lions who has resigned because they've now voted to admit women into the club.

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/la.../NEWSACC2.html

He said that he was quitting because admitting women meant they all had to be a bit more respectable.

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well done mr hardman for standing by his principles, i disagree with him entirely and think he's an old fashioned wazzock,thats my point of view.

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what a flipping idiot this guy is..

didnt he realise they will now have somone to make the coffee and hoover up ;)

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Talking of sex discrimination I noticed an advert on tv tonight for 'Sheila's Wheels', a car insurance company for women only. Is this fair, and should it not be illegal to discriminate against men?

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The advert was pants by the way Sheila.

Three dimbos in the back of a Cadillac, dressed as the poorer sisters of the Pink Ladies from Grease, and looking like it was filmed in a lock-up in Pontefract, didn't work for me.

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Its only seems to be sexist if the women are on the receiving end (alledgedly).

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I can see me getting a bit unstuck on the subject of sexism because I organise events to celebrate International Women's Day which on the surface does appear to exclude men. However, in my defense - we have never, ever excluded men and we're quite happy for men to come along to any of the events - the VE/VJ event was an even mix of men and women attending and helping out.

Also, International Women's Day is a recognised event up and down the country and is recognised by the United Nations - it's also a public holiday in some countries.

The thing is that I would totally support any International Men's Day - I happen to think that the most discriminated against section of the population is straight, white, married men.

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Well hopefully I will soon no longer be part of the most discriminated section of society Gayle. I deplore discrimination of any form and the labeling that goes with it.

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As do I Spuggie, I also think that so called 'positive' discrimination is as bad as real discrimination.

I think the guy from the Lions is silly to be so het up about women joining. I wouldn't get that bothered about him joining Hyndburn Women's Forum, in fact, now that he's going to have some time on his hands perhaps I should ask him if he can spare us a bit of it! lol

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Women have the right to be members of any club they want. Imagine if men were not allowed into anne summers for a gift for the love of their life there would be uproar.

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agree spug but what interests me at the moment as regards discrimination is the GOLF one,women are now to be allowed to qualify for the british open- fine for me if they are good enough no problem! but a french golfer by the name of john vander velde has said ok if women can enter what has always been a male only competition then i want to enter the womens open! it may seem silly but to me theirs an important point raised here,the guy has been getting a bit of stick for this, i would just like to ask WHY? whats the differance?;)

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I have to say I agree with cashman. I admire the bloke for standing by his principles but hey this is the 21st century. I race radio controlled cars which is a male dominated sport & some men do they're utmost to stop me beating them, even when they are a lap down which I find sad. When I race at nationals against men who don't know me & who try to upset me with chauvenistic comments pre-race, they are surprised when I don't retaliate verbally but make sure they know I have been in their race. :D I have earned the respect of those who race me & I dont expect any special treatment because I'm female. I except I am one of 'the boys' when I'm racing but off track I'm me

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The guy has the ability to drive a ball further than most women so he would have to be given a handicap rating to allow him to play. Unfortunately this to is discrimination and even with the womens tee placed as per a standard coures they would still be disadvantaged. Its a rock and a hard place quandry this.

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it is a rock and a hard place spug,but some guys can drive the ball 50-80 yds more than some of their rivals,do these guys ask for the big hitters to be handicapped? its a pre-requisite of the tournament that you qualify on ability! so on that basis i can't see why the guy should be handicapped when playing a lady,surely when you qualify on skill it has to be a level playing field for all,one of the biggest hitters in golf john daly comes unstuck with his short game on many occasions.;) ;)

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he probably thought- ignore it it'll go away, many people think like that.(blinkered wazzocks) lol;)

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He was probably threatened with leagal action so he decided to jump before he was pushed or received a large bill from the courts. :D

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There are some golf clubs that have altered their constitution to allow females on to the club council / management of the club.
One of the top female golfers did play in a gents US tour event the other year as a trial. From what I remember she did very well.

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They dont. Lot's of the private 'gentlemans' clubs in London still exclude women, even though this rule has been challenged in the courts.

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Just as a point of interest men aren't allowed at Ann Summers parties - apparantly if they are there it is classed as an orgy and orgies are illegal!

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Another blatent example of sexism is that the courts nearly always award custody of a child to the mother. If we have sexual equality, the child should be in the primary care of the best parent, which isn't always the woman.

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Thanks for the reminder G now I know I am in trouble with the court. :(

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Well thats just daft, I've been to plenty of Ann Summers parties and even if men were present it still wouldn't be anything like an orgy.

I dont see anything wrong with men and women wanting to be part of seperate organisations, is it a case of anything men can do we have to prove that we can can equal, unless of course we need some heavy lifting or its a dirty job then its ok for the man to do!

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Are you being ironic?

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Again this is a load of needless and unnecessary bo****ks in my opinion. I don’t have a problem with Single sex clubs, why should it be discriminatory or sexist to want to be with members of your own sex. A gentleman’s club is a place of reflection and peace for the discerning gent to do what men do. Debate, drink and quite possibly do things that woman shouldn’t witness. By admitting women into men’s club we are automatically prevented from being ourselves, which is itself an act of discrimination. I don’t have any problem with the girls going to Ann Summers parties or Virgin Makeup parties. I don’t believe they should be restrained by the presents of a man ogling at their fleshy bits during the thong show or comparing their bouncing all dancing, all singing bunny’s……Men and women require time apart, there is a natural need for them to meet independently of each other and it’s something that exist and is reflected in societies throughout the natural world. :) :) :)

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I didn't say there was anything wrong with single sex private clubs, I've been to quite a few myself.

By the way orgies in private aren't illegal anymore.

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Orgies should be illegal. They are morally wrong and corruptive…………. If anyone is planning to hold one please give us a bell…..:D :D :D

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We would bell you, but we heard your bell's dong had stopped dinging.

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[quote=garinda]I didn't say there was anything wrong with single sex private clubs, I've been to quite a few myself.quote]

If this is in response to my post I didn’t say you did. I wasn’t knocking or slating anyone. I was just adding my opinion to this discussion…:)

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No Doug I think we are agreeing for once, or rather you are agreeing with me.:)

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I have one good eye and an imagination that could knock over a horse. Celibacy is not an illness and it is totally reversible. :rolleyes: With reference to my previous request, I would prefer not to participate if it going to be one of those types of parties, you know what I mean……..;)

I can assure you that there’s plenty ding in my dong, it just requires the right Bell Ringer or should that be **** ringer? :p

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No unlike Ann Summers my little soirees are non gender specific.;)

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That would have been the case only if I had read your post first, which being one of yours I neglected to do, therefore, It is you Sir, that is agreeing with me. :rolleyes:

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I know everyone else is in bed, and there are only us two posting, but we really must stop meeting like this.

I have a reputation and standards to maintain.

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Unlike you sir, I already have a reputation that does not reflect my true self. :o Standards are only as good as those that maintain them. ;)

I sir has nothing better to do this evening and it is this fact that brings me here… and not your presents dear….:p

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Sir?

I do so like it when you humble yourself before me.:)

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:) It is a reflection of a better time when men showed a mutual respect for each other irrespective of class or regard for one's delusions of grander or Garindur in your case.

Humble Sir, Humble my A***.:p

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In those days you would have had to kiss my hem, or if you were very lucky my ring.

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Not before the peasants revolt you wouldn't.

Any way Rindy Rex is going to bed, hoping I can sleep, and worrying if we will get told off for thread wandering or being too cocky.;)

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To the lions president I say, well done, stand up for your principles. I did exactly the same last year after 27 years with the same club. Now before half of you start to call me sexist here is the situation. There are four lions club here, two mixed, one all women and ours was all men until one "fellow lion" wanted to TEST the system, we politely asked him to take his lady and join a mixed club, of course he declined, we voted and, due to pressure from above, the vote was to accept women. I also believe that Accrington has a lady lions club, I wonder if they have any males?

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that must be why i avoid accy center at night, too many lions prowling.lol:D

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I thought it was all the kebab shops that stopped you hitting accy.;)