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garinda 17-11-2005 17:31

Scale of compensation.
 
One of the victims of the London bombings Garri Holness, is seeking £50,000 compensation from the Government for the loss of a leg.

He has been praised for his bravery, and along with meeting Tony Blair and Michael Howard, he presented a 10,000 name petition to Downing Street calling for more compensation for the victims of 7/7. He was also due to turn on the Christmas lights in Streatham, South London.

It has since come to light that Garri Holness was convicted in 1985 of the gang rape of two sixteen year old girls. They were raped forty five times.

The man has served his sentence, but should he be entitled to £50,000 compensation?

The girls are probably still serving their sentence, and trying to live with what happened to them. The current guide for compensation for victims of gang rape is £13,000.

WillowTheWhisp 17-11-2005 17:35

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I know where you are coming from with the question but I venture to say that legally he is entitled to the compensation because the two situations have no connection.

garinda 17-11-2005 17:45

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Willow I agree, he's served his sentence, and as a victim is entitled to compensation. What bothers me is that he is fighting for more compensation than he is legally due.

Perhaps he could also fight for an increase in the compensation gang rape victims get.

He has changed his name since he was convicted of the crime, and at first denied it was him. He seems to be enjoying the limelight he had in the press now, as a 'brave man.'

WillowTheWhisp 17-11-2005 17:58

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Is this the guy who was featured on morning TV too?

The whole compensation system could do with being overhauled.

garinda 17-11-2005 18:01

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Is this the guy who was featured on morning TV too?

The whole compensation system could do with being overhauled.

Yes he's been on TV quite a lot. He's become the unelected face of the victim's campaign for more compensation.

I'm glad to say that Lambeth Council are no longer having him turning on the Christmas lights in Streatham though.

SPUGGIE J 17-11-2005 19:03

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Originally Posted by garinda
Yes he's been on TV quite a lot. He's become the unelected face of the victim's campaign for more compensation.

I'm glad to say that Lambeth Council are no longer having him turning on the Christmas lights in Streatham though.

His victims must be cringing at this whole episode. :(

cashman 17-11-2005 19:09

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if he'd been sentanced to something fitting the crime he commited this situation would not arise, hell it was only 1985, how longs this piece of crap been free? hero - don't make me laugh, the victims won't be.:mad:

West Ender 17-11-2005 19:48

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No convicted rapist should ever be entitled to anything that others have to pay for and we all pay through our taxes. He lost a leg? Well that's tough. If there were any justice he'd have lost more than that after he committed the rapes. The punishment should fit the crime.

SPUGGIE J 17-11-2005 19:59

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They could get lessons of that daft Welsh dude. :D

chav1 18-11-2005 03:14

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the guy should get a smuch money as he can possibly get then be made to give it to his victim :)

SPUGGIE J 18-11-2005 06:42

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Originally Posted by chav1
the guy should get a smuch money as he can possibly get then be made to give it to his victim :)

Why not make out the check to the victims then show him it and whatch it be handed over to them.
:D

Bad-Wolf 18-11-2005 08:56

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It seems to me that if he had been given a just sentance for his crime in the first place and made to serve it, then he would not have lost his leg in the bombings!

Perhaps there is some hidden justice there after all!

garinda 18-11-2005 09:23

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According to today's Daily Telegraph he was released after serving three years of his sentence for his part in the gang rape.

He wrongly thought because he was released early from prison, his conciction had been quashed. It wasn't until he was arrested for burglary three years ago, that he realised it wasn't quashed, and it was still on his record.

cashman 18-11-2005 09:30

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Originally Posted by garinda
According to today's Daily Telegraph he was released after serving three years of his sentence for his part in the gang rape.

He wrongly thought because he was released early from prison, his conciction had been quashed. It wasn't until he was arrested for burglary three years ago, that he realised it wasn't quashed, and it was still on his record.

i rest my case!(see my previous post) justice seems to be a JOKE.:mad:

garinda 18-11-2005 09:41

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I haven't seen the family of Marie Hartley in the limelight appealing for more compensation. I'm sure they would just rather have their wife/mother/daughter back home in Oswaldtwistle with them.

SPUGGIE J 18-11-2005 09:42

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Originally Posted by cashman
i rest my case!(see my previous post) justice seems to be a JOKE.:mad:

British justice more of a mess than an oil spillage.
:(

Mik Dickinson 20-11-2005 08:52

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Her should get nowt as far as i am concerned.The loss of his legf is retribution for what he did to the girls.There is a god as one can see.

Sara 20-11-2005 11:08

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Any money he does get should either go to his past victims or if they don't want it, then to charity. He doesn't deserve a penny.

SPUGGIE J 20-11-2005 11:34

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Originally Posted by Sara
Any money he does get should either go to his past victims or if they don't want it, then to charity. He doesn't deserve a penny.

He would drag it through the courts on the basis it is for his loss and that he was punished for his crime. :( The victims if they wanted it would have a long wait.

katex 20-11-2005 11:36

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[quote=garinda]Willow I agree, he's served his sentence, and as a victim is entitled to compensation. What bothers me is that he is fighting for more compensation than he is legally due.

Heard a Jeremy Vine interview the other day on this (only a slice you understand as dinnertime) and a gentleman was giving another slant to it all, in that he did not seek all this publicity and it was the media who swept him along, also the £ 50,000 compensation was not his figure; again one that the Daily Mail etc., has quoted. Always another side to situations sometimes. I agree that any compensation due should be payed otherwise where do we go from here ? A past shoplifter gets his hand blown off, but we all consider a good thing so tough !
Only private thought I have on this that is was the wrong member that was lost.

SPUGGIE J 20-11-2005 11:44

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Fair point Kate especially as to the member. Would he be enjoying being swept along if this had happened?

garinda 20-11-2005 12:52

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[quote=katex]
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Willow I agree, he's served his sentence, and as a victim is entitled to compensation. What bothers me is that he is fighting for more compensation than he is legally due.

Heard a Jeremy Vine interview the other day on this (only a slice you understand as dinnertime) and a gentleman was giving another slant to it all, in that he did not seek all this publicity and it was the media who swept him along, also the £ 50,000 compensation was not his figure; again one that the Daily Mail etc., has quoted. Always another side to situations sometimes. I agree that any compensation due should be payed otherwise where do we go from here ? A past shoplifter gets his hand blown off, but we all consider a good thing so tough !
Only private thought I have on this that is was the wrong member that was lost.

It was the same Jerermy Vine show that brought this story to my attention as well.
Nobody forced him to appear regularly on Breakfast TV, nor be the person who handed in the petition to Downing Street. He seems to thrive on his new found notoriety as a 'brave victim', yet tried to hide the fact that he has his very own victims, those being two sixteen year old girls who were subjected to a two hour gang rape when they were snatched off the street when returning from a pop concert.
They were raped between them forty five times.

SPUGGIE J 20-11-2005 13:41

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Pay his money straight to the victims for the ordeal they were subjected to. Then as a bonus do a welshman on him!

mani 20-11-2005 14:48

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45 tiems?! damn...

whereas i do agree he's done the time but three yrs for that? three yrs for a lifetime of mental anguish for his victims?

he shudnt get anything and then he'll realise what he's put them thru as he wakes up every morning and having to remember i cant walk.

katex 20-11-2005 14:56

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Nobody forced him to appear regularly on Breakfast TV, nor be the person who handed in the petition to Downing Street. He seems to thrive on his new found notoriety as a 'brave victim', .[/quote]

Garinda: Wasn't arguing one way or t'other, just seems plausible that the press will be loving this story and will milk it for all its worth, maybe adding bits as they go along.

Not negating his crime either as you will notice by my latter comment.

Spuggie: What's a Welsman ??


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