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Less 26-11-2005 10:14

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I find myself in a bit of a quandary, we have two different teams of bin-men calling now alternate weeks, one lot for the real rubbish and the others working hard to save the planet.

We are fast approaching Christmas, which team do I leave the tip out for if I leave it with the rubbish collectors will they make sure that it is distributed equally between themselves and the 'green team', or do I give it to the green team knowing that as they are into re-cycling I can be sure they will share it fairly with the 'rubbish team'?

Or do I take the point of view that as, every Tuesday whichever team calls my front garden always ends up knee deep in rubbish that I should use the money to make sure that I have a merrier Christmas!
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garinda 26-11-2005 10:24

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Hide the tip in some rubbish put out on the wrong day. That way they'll get a nice seasonal suprise before they fine you.

Neil 26-11-2005 10:35

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The only tip I would like to give the bin men is "Look where the f*** you are reversing and stop hitting my effin wall with that stupid sized bin wagon thats causing the back to collapse!!"

garinda 26-11-2005 10:55

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Lol I think we got the message without the added treat of the photograhs of your back passage.

chav1 26-11-2005 10:57

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get an estimate for the repairs if any are needed and hand it into the council and if no joy see a solicitor

Bad-Wolf 26-11-2005 11:25

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You can tip the Bin men if you like though personally I would not pay mine in washers!

Each and every time they call they leave half of the rubbish in the street.

I can not comment on all bin men obviously, however, the one's we have in Lancaster are a load of uselss Benny's

chav1 26-11-2005 12:00

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well i dont think they deserve tips at all anymore its not as though their job is difficult or should i say any more difficult than anyone elses infact i think they have it pretty damn easy compared to binmen of the past

gone are the days when binmen physicaly lifted anything heavy

binmen used to have to lift dirty heavy bins out of bin holes or from the floor outside the back gate and heave them on their backs and tip them into the bin waggon which is worthy of a christmas tip

now all they have to do is drag a wheelie bin which has wheels to a hydrolic lift and press a button , i wouldnt even class the job as been a dirty job anymore

save your money and buy an extra pint at christmas :D

guess whos bins arnt getting emptied for the next 6 months lol

Sara 26-11-2005 12:15

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Have you seen how much bin men gets paid nowadays Less? Spend your money in the pub, because they don't need it.

lettie 26-11-2005 13:19

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I'm afraid that there will be no tips from me. Before my bin even gets onto the hydraulic lift, I have to get it down a very steep step and wheel it to the bottom of the back alley.....only then will the binmen empty it. I then have to retrieve it after they have gone. In my opinion it is harder work for me than for them.....

Hmmmm, I wonder how much they will tip me????:D

SPUGGIE J 26-11-2005 13:43

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Only 2 kinds of bins we have one for general one for garden and one for recycling.

lettie 26-11-2005 13:52

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Only 2 kinds of bins we have one for general one for garden and one for recycling.

Lol.....That's 3...:D

SPUGGIE J 26-11-2005 14:12

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didnt read right did it 2 for you 3 for me. :o

Less 26-11-2005 14:54

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
didnt read right did it 2 for you 3 for me. :o

No, we have:-
1 Wheelie Bin
1 white bag for paper
1 blue bag for plastic
1 blue box for tins & glass
and those of with larger gardens have yet another bin for garden refuse.

Rumour also has it that we will be recycling cardboard soon but I suppose they are having difficulty deciding on the colour and material that container will be made of!
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janet 26-11-2005 14:58

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I don't give out tips, people who do the job get paid a wage for what they do. Why, should the public be expected to give them more. If the wage is that bad then it's time to change jobs.

chav1 26-11-2005 15:47

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Originally Posted by Less
1 Wheelie Bin
1 white bag for paper
1 blue bag for plastic
1 blue box for tins & glass
and those of with larger gardens have yet another bin for garden refuse.


so if you live in a standard 2 bedroomed terrace or a flat you have to get rid of the fridge to make way for the boxes and bags or be constantly tripping over them in the back yard

West Ender 26-11-2005 15:52

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We have a wheelie bin for general rubbish, which can include garden waste, but the bin must be pushed to the edge of your property. If it's on your drive they won't empty it. Then we have a blue wheelie bin for papers and they empty that every 4th Friday - same arrangements, it must be on the pavement. If you're like me and believe in re-cycling you flippin'-well hump your glass, plastic etc. to one of the village car parks where huge bins take up at least 6 parking spaces in each and the local yobs throw lighted fag-ends in them.

I don't tip the bin men, they're doing their paid job. I do mine and nobody tips me.

Acrylic-bob 26-11-2005 16:19

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TIPS?????? I would not pay the idle, feckless, incompetants with the holes out of washers.

A year ago they decided that I would not be allowed to have a wheelie bin because it was too much like hard work for them to wheel it the seven yards to the bin wagon. Instead, I was told that I would be given eight orange bags per month for my refuse, which I would have to "present at the kerbside for collection".

Which sounds fine in principle, but this does not take into account the barely literate halfwits employed to deliver the bags. Net result - there has been no delivery of orange bags for the last three months. On pointing out this dereliction of their duty to Cannon Street, I was told that the simple solution to the problem was to ask the delivery person for some bags. On informing the insufferably smug cow on the other end of the phone that, unlike the overwhelming majority of my neighbours, I actually worked for a living and so was not home when the bin men made their collections, I was told that there was not much else they could do.

If this is an example of "thirty years of service to the community", HBC has some damned funny ideas of what "Service" entails and it is no wonder that the borough is currently languishing as 51st most deprived in the bl**dy country!

chav1 26-11-2005 16:39

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my mum has had that much hassle with the system and stuff not been collected or taken away etc she has ended up taking her rubbish to the tip each week herself using a friends car

i wont say elderly coz she can still dish out a good right hook :D

SPUGGIE J 26-11-2005 16:49

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My mothers seem to be full all the time and she is on her own. The way they colllect is so messed up people are filling up the bins of those who have very little in theirs.

chav1 26-11-2005 17:11

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am i right in assuming the pick up rota will be altered over xmas without any notification of when they will be like they did last year..?

Acrylic-bob 26-11-2005 17:49

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Originally Posted by chav1
am i right in assuming the pick up rota will be altered over xmas without any notification of when they will be like they did last year..?

That would come as no surprise..!

SPUGGIE J 26-11-2005 18:15

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
That would come as no surprise..!

Add to that the amount of time it will take to catch up then there is no merry time for New Year while waiting on them to sort it all out.

Bad-Wolf 26-11-2005 19:11

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Lets face it, it is about time we sacked all of the bin men and their employer's (the various local authorities). In their place we should install people who 1, Do the job properly. 2, Give a monkey's and 3, A council authority who can actually be held accountable more than just once every four or five years.

Failing that....... A BadWolf Dictatorship!

A sensible policies for a sensible Britain campaign!

Vote Bad Wolf.

West Ender 26-11-2005 20:33

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Before I give you my vote, Bad-Wolf, please let me know your bin-emptying policies, as follows:-

1. Will your bin men step one foot on my drive to get hold of my bin?
2. Will they put the empty bin back on my property and not in front of my next-door neighbour's or across the road?
3. Will they put the black sack that's been placed on top of the full bin into the lorry instead of throwing it on to the pavement?
4. Will the bin-lorry pull in to the side of the road instead of stopping in the middle for 10 minutes and preventing any traffic from passing?
5. Will your bin-men stop making sure that the top 6" of any full bin are spilled into the road, especially if they are particularly squishy and smelly?

If you can answer "yes" to all these questions you can be my Dictator. :)

Churchman 26-11-2005 23:27

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Originally Posted by Less

Rumour also has it that we will be recycling cardboard soon but I suppose they are having difficulty deciding on the colour and material that container will be made of!
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Knowing Hyndburn it will be a cardboard box!!

As for tips - there ain't a chance! We are told to put our blue boxes out for 7.30am so I put mine out at 7.25am as soon as I get up. Trouble is the wagon usually arrives at around 7.20!! Council is adamant they don't start until 7.30 but when I challenged one of the binmen about this one morning he said they'd just changed the start time to 7.24am.
Plonker :rolleyes:

ANNE 26-11-2005 23:53

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No tip from me either.
It's like saying "thank you for the mess you leave behind. we are so greatfull we have to lug the heavy bins and do half the work for you."
They get paid for all the work they only half do.

Neil 27-11-2005 10:44

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Originally Posted by Churchman
We are told to put our blue boxes out for 7.30am so I put mine out at 7.25am as soon as I get up. Trouble is the wagon usually arrives at around 7.20!!

This might be a daft question but if you know when the wagon arrives why do you put your box out after it has gone? Would it not make more sense to get up 10 minutes sooner and have it emptied?

chav1 27-11-2005 15:40

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i wouldnt get up earlier especialy in winter

if people dont bend to please the council maybe they will realise it simply dosnt work and do somthing about it

so far they have us sorting out the rubbish,storeing it in our homes for 2 weeks and cleaning it before it even hits the bins all of which we pay council tax for the council to do , not us

SPUGGIE J 27-11-2005 16:15

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They must do it just to annoy folk. ;)

Churchman 27-11-2005 17:46

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Originally Posted by Neil
This might be a daft question but if you know when the wagon arrives why do you put your box out after it has gone? Would it not make more sense to get up 10 minutes sooner and have it emptied?

If HBC want our boxes to be out by 7.30 then that is just what I do. Why should I be inconvenienced by their ineptitude to do their job properly and at the correct time??
My solution is to keep calling them up and getting somebody to come and empty it later (somebody once came in a hatchback!!) The fact that this has happened countless times makes you wonder if there is any communication between council departments. :confused:

SPUGGIE J 27-11-2005 18:00

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Council departments are like little olitical parties they hate each other and trust them as far as they can throw them.

chav1 27-11-2005 18:04

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well said churchman , i also like how HBC now call us customers yet dont provide customer satisfaction although i did get a phone call once asking me to answer a few questions about how i found their services

that was a very long phonecall indeed i doubt they will ring me again :D

Neil 27-11-2005 22:51

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Originally Posted by Churchman
The fact that this has happened countless times makes you wonder if there is any communication between council departments. :confused:

It just makes me wonder why people can be so awkward. What you are doing is costing money that could be used to improve the service.

Churchman 27-11-2005 23:28

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Who's being awkward?? It's down to those who collect the refuse to do so at the time they are supposed to. I am doing as I have been told so why should I disrupt my routine? BTW on one occasion it was before 7.15 when they turned up 'cos my daughter (who's six) woke me up to tell me.
What happened to the customer always being right? As I pay for the service via council tax I am a customer (and I pay full whack as I work for a living). Would you pay a garage for a service if they said "Certainly sir, bring your car in at 6am" even if it didn't suit your routine??

ps Neil. In reply to your earlier post of putting out the box after they've been, if I put my box out at 7.25 and they aren't in sight just how am i supposed to know if they've been or not??!!! :confused:

Neil 27-11-2005 23:30

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Originally Posted by Churchman
ps Neil. In reply to your earlier post of putting out the box after they've been, if I put my box out at 7.25 and they aren't in sight just how am i supposed to know if they've been or not??!!! :confused:

Because your nieghbours boxes will be empty.

Bad-Wolf 27-11-2005 23:32

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Originally Posted by West Ender
Before I give you my vote, Bad-Wolf, please let me know your bin-emptying policies, as follows:-

1. Will your bin men step one foot on my drive to get hold of my bin?
2. Will they put the empty bin back on my property and not in front of my next-door neighbour's or across the road?
3. Will they put the black sack that's been placed on top of the full bin into the lorry instead of throwing it on to the pavement?
4. Will the bin-lorry pull in to the side of the road instead of stopping in the middle for 10 minutes and preventing any traffic from passing?
5. Will your bin-men stop making sure that the top 6" of any full bin are spilled into the road, especially if they are particularly squishy and smelly?

If you can answer "yes" to all these questions you can be my Dictator. :)

I think it is fair to say that one way or another a dictatorship with myself as dictator could assure that those points/questions would be addressed/answered in the affirmative!

Vote Bad-Wolf...... sensible policies for a happier Britain!

Churchman 27-11-2005 23:49

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Originally Posted by Neil
Because your nieghbours boxes will be empty.

I can't see my neighbours boxes

Next....:rolleyes:

Neil 27-11-2005 23:57

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Why not get you local friendly Councillor, Jean Battle on the case.

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Here are her details

chav1 27-11-2005 23:59

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just sling the boxes out the night before and forget about them if i was you churchman

once outside its HBC's problem

Churchman 28-11-2005 00:04

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May just do that Neil, thanks ;)

Chav, not a fan of doing that after some drunken fool decided if would be fun smashing the contents of a few boxes all over the place :mad:


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