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So disappointing.

A new old Etonian leader for the Conservatives, with a wife with a tattoo.

Weddings in the UK were Adam 'marries' Steve, and Eve 'marries' Neve.

Come on right wing protagonists, give me something to get my knickers in a twist about.:)

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I Like Cameron, one hope’s he’s not just another gob artist. Same sex weddings? I’m glad I got out of the Photography business years ago. For god sake, I’m all for self expression and human rights but something’s should be left alone. Gay Rights, fine not a problem, equal rights amongst same sex couples should be a matter of law and not confused with the sanctity of marriage and what that morally demonstrates in a Christian society. And yes despite what some would want us to believe we do live in a Christian country, with Christian values and that cultural/religious value should be maintained. Western culture, often influenced by American trends and sense of freedoms is leading us down ever darkening paths. But hey, we will all be judged individually when we pop over to the other side. How does that sound to you, fancy a bite?

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It's only the press that has called them marriages, it's a civil partnership, giving same sex couples the same rights as hetrosexual couples.

I'll report back on my first 'wedding' in Febuary, when my friends get hitched on their seventeenth anniversary in Glasgow. Which is a lot longer than a lot of the 'normal' weddings I've been to have lasted.;)

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its great news and a brilliant step forward for British society in general.
too bad for the idiotic comments by George Michael that will keep the bloodthirsty tabloids busy for a while...
"yes we will be married but we will be allowed to roam free and live our individual lives"
silly silly man.

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I know silly old Queen.

Hang on though, that's what real Queens and Kings have done throughout the history.;)

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Mummy would be so pleased.

If only a man would put a ring on my finger.:rolleyes:

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Perhaps so……I know quite a few gay couples that have shown what a lasting relationship should be and not the free for all attitudes of today’s heterosexual shag along society, but when we pander to the rights of minority’s and lose our sense of values and perhaps the fear of right and wrong we end up with very much of what we’ve got in Britain today, which is a declining society without respect for what are moral values…..

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It is a sad fact that one in three marriages end in divorce.

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oooooooer arent we fiesty tonite spoiling for a fight eh!!! ..its been said that god created adam and eve not adam and steve !!
and as for liking dave cameroon well he is a polution opps i mean politician therefore =gob artist ..and heres a sample of this so called christian country ...in one of the leading tabloid news papers today a young school girl was banned from wearing a crucifix into school .but it was alright for the sikhs to wear their karpans and a kara because it is compulsary in their religion....
disregard the last paragraph just a rant from me
sorry for the thread hijack garinda:)

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Isn't it widely accepted that God in fact made a load of monkeys who evolved into Adam, Steve and indeed Eve?

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Having an opinion is something that we enjoy as a right, we all have one and should be encouraged to use it, even if it makes us silly little men. I don’t honestly see how this can be great news and a brilliant step forward for British society in general. It’s just served to confuse an already confused society; I would agree the press is bleating like something possessed, but that in itself is the fruit of having the freedom to have an opinion. Having equal rights in respects sharing a home and responsibly to a life long partner is one thing and rightly so, but to put this in a process that equates to a marriage civil or otherwise is a retrograde step in the moral fabric of this country. But that’s my opinion.

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[quote=geoff70]and heres a sample of this so called christian country ...in one of the leading tabloid news papers today a young school girl was banned from wearing a crucifix into school .but it was alright for the sikhs to wear their karpans and a kara because it is compulsary in their religion....

"but when we pander to the rights of minority’s and lose our sense of values and perhaps the fear of right and wrong we end up with very much of what we’ve got in Britain today"

I don’t disagree with you Geoff, but just how did we get to this stage? and what needs to be done to avoid a continuation of these situations.

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As usual I accept your point of view, but I disagree with it a little. I think this is a fair law. I've known friends who have been in a same sex relationship for thirty odd years, who have been denied the right to be at their partners deathbed because some distant relative is their 'real' next of kin. This will put a stop to that kind of silliness.

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I quite like David Cameron and some of his policies, which I suspect is bad news for the Tories.

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Agreed................

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ah but not all christians accept the theory of evolution i quote
The common view was that God created the whole universe out of nothing, about six thousand years ago (a notable Irish theologian, James Ussher (1581- 1656), deduced from the chronology of the Bible that the actual year was 4004 BC.) It all happened in the remarkably short period of six days, and on the sixth day God made both the animals and human beings. First of all from the dust of the ground He made one human being; He breathed His own spirit into him and called him Adam. Then from Adam’s rib He fashioned a woman called Eve. All other human beings were subsequently descended from these two by natural procreation.
and over to doug we got to this stage by apathy .by being law abiding and trusting without questioning the goverment who are really meant to represent us ,but dont ..there is a certain george orwell animal farm feeling about this present goverment ,and better throw in that 1984 feeling for good measure

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The way i see it all is that we as a mixed culture nation must realise that no one knows for a fact who made what when (with regards to the Adam &Eve/Steve silliness above) , and it is also a fact that we are all in the same situation, all floating around on this spherical dungheap - no matter how our beliefs differ or if our sexual prefences differ; so in turn we should all have equal rights - and IMHO this new law is long overdue.
:D

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I think me, in all my wooly liberal/socialist fluffiness, saying I quite like him, is all ready the condemnation he needs as a leader of the Tories:)

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I don’t have a problem with the Law itself, I don’t agree that a civil ceremony is required to sanctify it. It infers a marriage. Adam and Eve in my mind is creation of man and not god. I’m not actually what you’d call a Christian either. That aside most eastern countries manage to maintain individual cultures and religions despite the influx of foreign nationals, why should this county be deferent?

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because by nature we are a nation of rebels!!
it seems we've picked a fight with every Tom, Dick & Harry going!
and as for the uproar of punk, well.....





...pure genius :)

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its a vicious circle ,if the tories worked for the people they would still be in goverment .but like wise what has labour really done for us ,all promises ..crime failed, imigration shambles ,education education education failed .national health ,failed ,defence ie mod ,disaster!!! and tax yes they have kept it low you dont notice all those pesky little stealth taxes do ya tax oh its only 22%which for me being self employed works out at about 30% when the national insurance goes on top ,pensions plundered the list is endless but i supose this is the best we've got ..and the lunitics really are running the asylum ....if the goverment was a factory they would've been closed long ago ive never seen miss-managment like it except the refereeing of the hand of god incident 1986....sorry for the insane babbling on im tired ! oh my god ive just read my post what am i talking about is it even relavent to anything ??? neeeed sleep nitenite

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...i intended the word nation to mean Britain, Doug ;)


...im sure there are a FEW rebels amongst us English!! :D :engsmil:


...and where does Louis Walsh come into it?!?! :p

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David Cameron.......I'm willing to wait and see how he gets on

Civil ceremonies... I think that it is about time that gay couples had legal help in order to protect their rights. I wouldn't call this marriage but a practical solution to a potentially awful problem. I have seen it happen where families of a sick gay man have shunned his long term partner in the hospital, made all the decisions and not even invited the partner to the funeral. I wonder whether my uncle will do this as he has been with his partner for 25 years......a darned sight longer than most hetero marriages.:D

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As a conservative all my life I have to disagree with many of the comments above. Cameron may indeed have the gift of the gab and may have won over many conservative party member's into thinking that he is the answer.

If anyone saw this cretin being interviewed by Paxman a couple of weeks ago then wou will have noticed how he went out the way to avoid the questions being asked and also that he changed his mind about policies he had endorsed only a few weeks earlier. He is (I am sorry to say) like most other politicians that have been seen this last few years. In other words, he is a liar who will say whatever he thinks people want him to say in order to get into power. I would like to warrant that what ever he does do, assuming of course they win the next election will be pretty much what Blair did, which as we all know was not what he said he would be doing!

As another matter of point, Garinda is right. It is a civil contract between partners in order to recognise their union/partnership not a wedding or marriage. This arrangement of course is one which will only be recognised by the state and not by any of the main stream religions.

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Wolfie if he turns out as bad as the comments you made imply he will then President Blair will still be at downing street. Maybe he needs a good backbone and not the attitude that "i can be as Blair as Blair" for that will just come back and haunt him and the party. If they hope to win the next election they need to be original and forceful with no backtracking.

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I agree that the civil rights of same sex couples should be protected, but when are the civil rights of hetero couples who have lived together for years going to be protected?

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Rindy I'm sure that you will agree with the following statement but not perhaps for the same reasons:-

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They are.;)

It's part of the examination you have to pass, along with flower arranging, and being over dramatic.:)

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when they get married...of course!!! ;) :rolleyes:

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Can they not apply for a civil partnership? Whilst I haven't seen the law, does it explicitly state same sex couples only?

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Shouldnt matter either way everyone should be allowed to live the way they want to within reason and within the law.

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What has been somewhat ignored are the implications of this new Civil Partnership Act, extending across the entire legal spectrum. It will mean, for instance, that any practising homosexual can quite legally bring a boyfriend in from abroad, and within two weeks and through a civil partnership ceremony, that individual will have full legal residence within the UK togeather with property, pension and other rights.

I suggest that those of you who are looking forward to a night out in Accy's new flagship pub,winebar and pistro, aka "The Calder", should sieze the opportunity while you can. I fear it will not be long before such establishments will be taken over by wave upon wave of Thai lady-boys, Brazilian transvestites and others of a similar ilk, all here quite legitimatly. I certainly won't be pushing my way to the bar through that lot.

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Just the same as them bringing back thai brides then? What differences are there that would make any easier to bring back a ladyboy than a lady?

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I've no doubt some poor young lad will find out the hard way.

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Well I will have to "aquire a little Japanese chick" then I should be safe. ;)

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I think it's two years you have to prove you've had a relationship with the person not two weeks, just as it is for dirty old buggers who go to Thailand to bring back girls young enough to be their grandaughters to be their brides.

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Just a lttle note here, faggots aren't into transvestites/transexuals/ladyboys. They are the play things of all you 'normal' men.

Puffdas like constuction workers, policemen, in fact all the rest of the Village People as well.;)

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They are the play things of all you 'normal' men.

I don't play with any of the above, does that mean I'm not 'normal'?

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You are definetly not normal.:p

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Why don't you learn to read, muppet. The two weeks in question is the period between the notification at the registrars office and the "ceremony" itself; As to knowing each other for two years prior to marriage - do you really believe that rule is abided to? All the evidence pertaining to forced & arranged marriages betweem British Asian girls & their husbands from the Indian subcontinent indicate the average period of knowing each other is two hours, not two years.

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I'll learn to read when you learn to write, without distorting the facts.^

As for the finer points of smuggling in Thai brides, I'll bow to your superior knowledge on the matter.:)

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I'm so glad I started this thread, it was getting so boring.

I even enjoyed loosing karma for it just now.:)


You didn't leave any comment, but don't forget you can see who is reading which thread in whose on line.

Cowardy custard.:) xxxxx

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Its about time all unmarried relationships were given legal staus. This way bigots etc wont be able to stop 'loved ones' being there at the end and they will be financially protected.

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Oh dear. Its going from bad to worse. There has always been a mechanism for legitimising an unmarried relationship. Its called marriage, i.e. between man & woman. The "Civil Partnership" is no more than a tax-dodging, pension-grabbing financial scam. There is no way Gordon Brown will be able to get his books to balance when this caper gets fully going.

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Perhpas the way to do that would be to separate the Church from the state. The state can issue legal recognition of partnerships if you want to call it that, and leave marriage which is originally a religious ceremony to those who are members of a particular religious group!

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oh my word
yet again BW something we agree on
what is the world coming to?!!?

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Thats o.k. by me so long as society also encourages the shunning or perhaps even the stoning of single mothers that never did and never will have a lasting relationship but produce children because they know the state (us), will pick up the tab.

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God knows but then lets face it things can not get too much worse!:D

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what you mean gordon brown ,cant get his books to balance now !!! lol

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So, Garinda,

What are you?

A tattoo or a dyke?

Or both, a tattooed dyke! :D

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According to one source, he’s a Muppet…….:D

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It may be approaching the season of miricles but most would bauk at Mr Browns book keeping antics.

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Don't forget that for every single Mother, there is also a father needed somewhere along the line, even if it's to fill the turkey baster.

It takes two to tango.

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I haven't forgotten that Rindy, the thing is that the 'women' are supposed to be the moral backbone of society, without consequence there is no need for them to be choosy about their partner if he's a fly by night what does it matter? I can put a claim in everyone else can pay for my lack of judgement!

However if this minority and it is a minority of women were made to think about their actions, they might just be a little more careful about who they give their favours to. Or at least take advantage of the large array of contraceptives that are available.

I am not having a go at all single mothers there are all sorts of reasons why they have arrived in this particular circumstance, I only meant the habitual baby machine that cannot or does not want the responsibility of a relationship and churns out offspring all of which have different fathers, because mummy knows the rest of us will pay for her attitude.

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I pay both ways and its a pain especially when I see some better off than me and I work for a living.:(

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yes i feel sympathy for legitimate single female or in the rare case male parents ,but it is these profesional baby machines that are getting decent mothers or parents tarred with the same brush ...having families of 7 or 8 kids while not paying into the pot is a damn right discrace and the goverment doesnt seem interested in changing it at all just throws tax payers money at them so they can breed some more to get more ...most honest working people who ,though they would love more kids know they just simply cant afford to keep them ..its simple long term unemployed should have one child only supported and if they want anymore they should have to pay for them themselves then we would see a decrease in teenage pregnancy ..and dole layabouts really looking for jobs to support their brood ...
1 why would long term unemployed parents seek work if the goverment gives them no incentive with their generous benifits
2 this is gonna be controversial .having a cap on the number of kids they are willing to fork out for .for instance it might make people think twice about opening their legs ,if they knew that they would have to enter gainfull employment to raise their children .
3 more people would use contraception
4 it would clean up housing council estates of nightmare broods from hell ,i say broods because thats all these people are !!!

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question - how did we get from david cameron to male single parents with 8 kids

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Read all the posts and you might find out:p

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oh its easy if you have been following the posts shakes
page 4 ...#51 try to keep up lol

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If more girls got together and took part in this civil partnerships malarky, there would be less single mothers, and they could sell their honeymoon snaps to Razzle.;)

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here here Garinda!! wooo!

btw Geoff - im very very lazy and not realy botherd enough to search the thread so.....naaaaahhhhh lol

you had me there shakes i casually saw something about it so i posted,then when you posted your reply i had to back track to find out were it had begone so as not to look a fool ...well now my secrets out lol ....its always the way of threads start of one thing end up another ....chinese whispers mega lol

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lmao!
ahh...the importance of being idle!!
:D