Traffic Calming good or bad?
 

How many of us want safe roads? At a guess I would say 100%, but what is a safe road? Is it as I pointed out in another thread a road that causes frustration for drivers because unlike the old tradition where a bus moves into a bay at the side of a road, the bus stop is built out to cause chaos for traffic in both directions!
Or is it the dicing with death Chicanes on charter street where people have been seen to speed up to try and make it first forcing the true priority driver to make some very strange and last minute manoeuvres to avoid a crash?
Or maybe the real traffic calming are the suspension ruining and drain destroying humps that just end up as a challenge to the ' I can get over that just watch me brigade'?

I believe most of this type of calming was created by a none-driver that has now moved on to cock-up pastures new. Would it be possible for our esteemed council to take another look and perhaps do something to rectify this persons mistakes, after all even the emergency services have criticised this mess!

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I will take you for a spin down Fairfield Street over the bumps sometime to show how pointless they are. Lets have a competition - How fast can you do the bumps on Fairfield Street.

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i think common sense has been thrown out the window on this issue ,we too have traffic calming in our neck of the woods ,and like less pointed out suspension ruining rubbish ..ours are meant to stop so called joyriders from speeding ,which makes a mockery of the whole thing ,why should the joyriders care they stole the car anyway !!!!
so the tax paying drivers are literally left to pick up the pieces ......................of their cars!

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the roads are safe, ..... its the idiots on it that make it unsafe! like unisured, no tax, or MOT numpties!! YEH YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

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In the car I reckon I could hit 70, on the bike with no other traffic easily 100+

In your car I reckon whatever it can do :)

I agree, they don't stop the exact people they are aiming to control. What we need are decent punishments for the crime. Anyone caught exceeding the speed limit within 1 mile of a school should lose their car for a week.

Of course our politicians haven't got the dangly bits to put a proper crime and punishment bill together.

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traffic calming measures woul be ok if it was actualy put in the right places

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Over the bumps? I would like to see you try :mad:

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Why does having no tax or MOT make you unsafe?

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as someone currently learning to drive i am amazed at how many dumb arses there are out there who have no idea how to use a roundabout

i can count 5 times where some numbskull has nearly gone into the side of me

MOT does not mean your cars is safe all it means is that on 1 day of the year your car was up to required level of condition to be road worthy and i would estimate over 50% of cars with a valid MOT certifiacte would not pass another MOT

no insurence dosnt make you a dangerous driver either al it means is that in teh event of an accident there is no body to fall back on for repairs etc except the driver of teh un insured car

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just a personal opinion but i think they are the stupidest things imaginable,i certainly dread having lifesaving treatment in the back of an ambulence going over them bloody things.:(

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Not very good for the back if you're driving up church st over 3 mini roundabouts then up ormerod st around fern gore then the reverse.3 trips an hour all day long.How many humps n bumps an hour is that?

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just a point of interest

any road sighn that is not displayed as in the highway code is irrelivent

basicly this means that the majority of traffic sighns in the uk are not legal

any speed sighn with yellow on it for instance or those speed limits painted on orange speed bumps etc are all irrelivent

thousands of peopel are getting off with speeding fines for example simply because they contest them in court and the cases get thrown out

one example that springs to mind is when a man got caught on a speed camera and he photographed the sighn saying 30mph and took it to court saying that the sighn was illigal so irrelivent and the judge had to agree

there was a big story on this a few weeks ago on tv and basicly all these new road sighns and road markings are a big waste of money unless of course the law/highway code is changed to accomodate them which atthis moment dosnt seem to be happening

if these traffic calming measures are to be any use at all they should at the very least have the law behind them

if you get caught on speed camera it may be worth checking it out and contesting it to save yurself 3 points and a fine :)


i havnt yet been done for speeding and am in no rush to prove the above but rest assured if one of those cameras gets me i will be looking at it as an option

also tests were done on mobile speed cameras and when pointed at a stationary car the mobile speed camera said it was doing 8mph yet there was no one in the car and the engine wasnt running and this is supposed to be a common fault with them and false readings are frequent yet peopel just pay up and dont argue the toss

and one more bit of information about yellow lines

so if you get a ticket in accy walk to the end and see if it is a legal yellow line before paying your fine :)


here read the rest yourselves lol

http://www.parkingticket.co.uk/em.html

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Don't get me started on the subject of roundabouts. I actually think that the theory behind roundabouts is perfect - everyone gets in the right lane, stops, let people from the right go first, etc - can't fault the logic.

But the number of numpties on the road who can't grasp the simple principle involved baffle me.

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I think it helps when the entrance to roundabouts is marked up so everyone knows where they should be. Those newish roundabouts near Queens Park Hospital in Blackburn are a good example of people not knowing which lane to be. One has 2 exits and 2 lanes going into it. So it should be left lane for left turn and right lane for straight on. Most people use the left lane for going straight on. What do they think the right hand lane is for, going all the way round and back the way you came?

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You tend to find the bigger the roundabout the less likely people are to know what to do with it. The one at the viaduct in Acc for example - coming at it from Hyndburn Road there are two lanes, the straight on route which goes past the Inland Revenue should join up but people try to switch lanes on the roundabout itself. The number of times when you get cut up by someone who starts in the right hand lane but wants to go into the left hand lane at the other side.

So, yes, I would agree with you to some degree Neil - markings should be clearer on the approach but equally driving lessons and tests should be more instructive about roundabouts.

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Don't get me started on the viaduct roundabout, it is my pet hate and is wrongly signposted. When you come down Eastgate from the Burnley Rd direction the M65 (Hyndburn Rd) is signed as straight ahead. In actual fact drivers are turning right to get to Hyndburn Rd, it was a right turn before the roundabout was ever put there, adding a roundabout has not changed that. Therefore people should be using the right hand lane, but don't....

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In some cases they work in others they dont. Have seen the ones that narrow certain roads to a car width ove the majority of the distance and the car crazy brigade use them like a rally course.

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We've got a school with a 40 limit outside of it, we're trying to get the limit reduced but get told its safe as it is.
I think the first step to enforcing a speed limit is to make sure everybody knows without a doubt what the limit is, limit signs on both sides of the road as you enter and repeater signs on lamp posts.
I don't like speed bumps much, I don't think they work, they just damage my suspension. Chicanes, if properly installed do work, if properly installed you have to slow up to go round them, even if theres nothing coming. I've only ever seen that once though, and I drive over 1500 miles a week.

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Another thought on this is the speed bumps. Wonder how far I could jump my bike if I hit one at speed? And yes I would proberly fall of on landing.