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garinda 30-12-2005 22:20

New year, why now?
 
Although our year is based on Christ's life, or death, but why does our new year start on January the first?

Anno Domini, B.C., I understand all that, but why doesn't are year start after Easter then or something?

Oh my head hurts.:confused:

garinda 30-12-2005 22:30

Re: New year, why now?
 
Just realised this should really been in any questions rather than here.

It's so confusing I wasn't thinking straight, sorry.

Doug 30-12-2005 22:39

Re: New year, why now?
 
Is it not that the year starts in January because of the seasonal phases of the farming calendar as apposed to the Christian element.

Less 30-12-2005 22:53

Re: New year, why now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Oh my head hurts.:confused:

If your head hurts now just try wrapping your mind around what's at the end of this link!


harwood red 30-12-2005 22:55

Re: New year, why now?
 
Flippin eck Less my heads hurting too now!!! :(

Doug 30-12-2005 22:58

Re: New year, why now?
 
Time for another drink........:rolleyes:

harwood red 30-12-2005 23:00

Re: New year, why now?
 
now doug that sounds like a plan to me, it is nearly new year after all

Less 30-12-2005 23:07

Re: New year, why now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harwood red
Flippin eck Less my heads hurting too now!!!

Quote:

Doug-Time for another drink........
Beat you both to it, got the headache and took the cure.

More torture than thumbscrews just on one page!

shakermaker 30-12-2005 23:12

Re: New year, why now?
 
aint it because its just enough days after the christmas booze-ups so you're fully recovered for new years eve?
economical thinking from Mr J.Christ!
blasphemy? never.....smite me almighty smiter!!!

garinda 30-12-2005 23:31

Re: New year, why now?
 
Yes Gregorian, Julian, but it's all based around the birth and death of Jesus.

What year, and what calendar was in use when the census happened in Bethlehem when Jesus was born?

If B.C. is before Christ, and A.D. is after Jesus death, what happened to the thirty three or so years in the middle? Does the calendar start at his birth or his death?

Why January the first as the start of the new year, that's really got nothing to do with the Christian calendar?

Less 30-12-2005 23:41

Re: New year, why now?
 
Well Rindy your not easy to please try this (there's a bit less maths).


garinda 30-12-2005 23:45

Re: New year, why now?
 
So Jesus was probably born in 'the fall' in Bethlehem.

Ain't that just so cute?

Y'all have a nice day, ya hear?

Doug 30-12-2005 23:56

Re: New year, why now?
 
I thought it was in the mid bleak winter, sometime around 5th January ish?.

Did they have mid bleak winters in Bethlehem?

garinda 30-12-2005 23:59

Re: New year, why now?
 
England began its numbered year on March 25 (Lady Day or Annunciation Day), between the 13th century and 1752 January 1 was called New Year's Day, and was, with Christmas and occasionally Twelfth Night, a holiday when gifts were exchanged. 364 days (365 in leap years) remain in the year after this day


I'm stopping in tomorrow night. I shall do the English thing and not be a European sheep. I shall celebrate the new year on Lady Day.

Wasn't she also known as Billie Holliday, what date's that????

garinda 31-12-2005 00:10

Re: New year, why now?
 
1 B.C., O, 1 A.D. 2 A.D. etc, it doesn't make sense. If Jesus was born in the year zero, he didn't die until 33 A.D. Which means he lived from 0 -33 A.D. Which meand he lived in the Anno Domini bit which is daft.

I think they should go back to the drawing board. We should go metric anyway.

Bad-Wolf 31-12-2005 00:10

Re: New year, why now?
 
Not quite sure what calendar the Romans were using at the time, but the Jews who were of course the people that Jesus belonged to would count the years using the Moon (I forget what name is given to this method). This is also the reason Easter is at a different time every year as it always is follows the Jewish heast of the Passover!

garinda 31-12-2005 00:13

Re: New year, why now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad-Wolf
Not quite sure what calendar the Romans were using at the time, but the Jews who were of course the people that Jesus belonged to would count the years using the Moon (I forget what name is given to this method). This is also the reason Easter is at a different time every year as it always is follows the Jewish heast of the Passover!

Why don't you know?

You are a Theologian.

If you did know, would they let you be a vicar then?:D

Bad-Wolf 31-12-2005 00:16

Re: New year, why now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Why don't you know?

You are a Theologian.

If you did know, would they let you be a vicar then?:D

Hmm, I suppose I should now but it is not really my area.

As for being a vicar I am of the wrong denomination. In any case the idea of being a man of the cloth scares the hell out of me!

Bad-Wolf 31-12-2005 00:17

Re: New year, why now?
 
Oh, I will consider tha latter a challenge, as such I will find out for you!

garinda 31-12-2005 00:19

Re: New year, why now?
 
Well ok we'll let you off from taking cloth, but when does the Christian calendar start, with the birth or death, and doesn't that leave a thirty odd year gap?

No good answer and I'm afraid you'll have to take this year again.:)

Acrylic-bob 31-12-2005 11:16

Re: New year, why now?
 
Try this for size, the Roman stuff is further down the page.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

garinda 31-12-2005 11:25

Re: New year, why now?
 
Thanks Acidic-babs.

I knew I could rely on you, as one who has kissed the Papal ring.

Happy Lady Day, New Year or whatever.

Cheekiness aside, it looks an interesting site, l shall now go and read it properly.

Thank you.:)

Acrylic-bob 31-12-2005 12:02

Re: New year, why now?
 
Only you could get two double entendres into a post like that.


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