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so they're wanting to make remembrance sunday into british day. i think its a brill idea.

uk seems to be lacking in patrotism i feel and i've always felt may 1 or another day shud b made into a national holiday on the basis of july 4th.

its wonderful when the worldcup or the euro championships arrive and everyone has the flags out - but y only then?

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I don't think it should be rememberance day, britain day should be about britain, rememberance day should be about remembering, and about future peace. put it on another day when theres a big gap withot a bank holiday
or put it oin the 4th of july, lets celebrate us being free from those americans . I put flags out in the summer, I put christmas lights up for christmas, and when they come down it looks so bare, so when its st georges day i get up on the roof, 3 flats high and decorate the block with bunting and a flag, it stays there all summer. compliments my grand flower display

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Any idiot can be British thats why it's not celebrated.

English by the Grace of God

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and any english person can be an idiot :D

Point proved by bad karma recieved for this comment. Sometimes I'm ashamed of what this country has become, luckily there are decent honest caring people that make me proud again and cancel out the idiots.

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I think it's a good idea in principle but we shouldn't be afraid of celebrating our Britishness the rest of the time either. We definitely need to reclaim the British flag from the BNP!

Don't think it should be remembrance Sunday for the same reasons as above - let's have it in January or February when we're all suffering from S.A.D. It might perk us up a bit!

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We hold a Remembrance Day for just that purpose, “Remembrance” and within that Remembrance we pay Homage and Respect to those who gave everything in order that we might be free. Please don’t anyone make the mistake of thinking that in our Remembrance we celebrate and honour British Victory’s over our oppressor’s, because without the many and varied nationalities, races and religions that served with and at the side of the British they wouldn’t have been any.

British Day? Celebrating what exactly? Holding a specific British Day will pander to the BNP and act as rallying call. We can’t even hold Celebrations of our 18th & 19th century Victories without causing some arse offence.

I think that we should reinstate many of our older more traditional holidays like Royal Oak and the like. But if you want a day that reflects what we are and Celebrates our Nationality then have a Union Day that take into account the four Nationalities of the United Kingdom.

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got to agree with everything you said doug....... many many thousands of people of different nationalitys & creeds fought in the wars ......"rememberance day"..... says "we remember all." don't let us loose site of what ALL OUR ANCESTERS fought for ................. PEACE .

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i take it germany got fed up with us remembering those that kicked their arses and told us to stop it then :rolleyes:

what exactly are we celibrating when we celibrate been british..?

our guilibility
us been a soft touch nation

also if they scrap poppy day as i call it that means no sale of poppys and no revenue to help the familys of fallen soldiers and victims who gave their lives in battle

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I don't think anyone is suggesting that we scrap Remembrance Sunday - that's a very important day.

What is being suggested is that we also take time to celebrate simply being British.

The two things shouldn't be confused at all! They are completely different subjects.

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ok point taken gayle but unless ths country sorts its self out i realy dont see anything worth celibrating

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Tell that to that idiot Brown Gayle. This is not the US or Europe.

I’m all for celebrating our nationality, but let’s make sure that if we do have another National Day were we end up belittling ourselves in order to pamper to those who want to live here, but are offended by our beliefs and history.

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In your opinion what is being British Gayle? What constitutes being British? Is it our History, our former Empire, the National make up of British Race’s? What is it exactly?

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For me personally, it is about Pride in the Country in which I live and it's about not being afraid to be proud about it. We all get very patriotic when the national football, rugby or cricket team is doing well internationally then we sink back into the fear of patriotism the rest of the time because of the connotations.

I would also point out that a great number of people who are from different cultures get equally proud when our teams do well in these sports - so it is a completely non religious or non cultural thing.

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I would agree with all your saying Gayle. I would also include our extensive history within that grouping, but we don’t have a national British team of anything. Just four Nations under one flag. A flag that we are constantly criticised for flying because it might cause offence.

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We do at the Olympics, don't we?

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now thats an olympic event i would love to see :D

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Next up we have Chav representing the UK.

He'll be trying his best to get in there, and split the hair of the Eastern European 'lady' shot putter.:eek:

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UK? Don’t you mean Great Britain…………:D

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As I pointed out when you were wrong about us not having a national team, at the Olympics I'm not sure what they call us now.

Though of course we always will be GB.:)

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Stop hijacking threads for the "Garinda Gets one in Campaign"……:D

I think you shot yourself in the foot and drew 1-1 there old son……:p :D

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That's not very British.

Where's your stiff upper lip?

Britains are magnanimous in defeat as in victory.:)

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no way , after seeing how much of a vallient effort that german bird put in before you tongue wrestled her into submition i dont fancy my chances :eek:

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Yeah, I heard about that………………:)

Grunted was the expression used :D

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A British Day is a great idea but leave Remembrance Day alone. I vote for 21 October, Trafalgar Day, particularly if it became a Bank Holiday as there is none between the end of August and 25 December.

I would also like to see more made of 23 April, St George's Day. Saints Andrew, Patrick and David always have their flags out and their celebrations. We English should do the same. :)

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Do we really know how to define British because someone somewere will object to a part of it. We are citizens of a multi cultural multi religious multi lingual multi national community so could we have a citizens day? Proberly not as the objections thrown at a British Day would surface as well.


Best to be safe and have a Falling out disagreeing winging day instead we as an Island are good at that. :D

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British day should be about being British, being proud to be British, about the things we've achieved. There's a fine line between being proud to be British and claiming to be better because we are British, because that where the racism creeps in and where the objections start from the other cultures in Britain, aswell as the BNP thinking it's a propagander day for them.

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In the same way that the Scots celebrate St. Andrew’s day, the Welsh celebrate St. David’s day and the Irish celebrate St. Patrick’s day, we English should celebrate St. George’s day on the 23rd April and fly the flag.:engsmil:

However if we are to have a National Day then it would need to encompass England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland. I like the idea suggested by West Ender, that 21st October as Trafalgar Day would be appropriate as the British National Day. If nothing else it would thumb the British nose at the froggies and of course it would have to be a bank holiday. It is time to grab the Union Flag back from the National Front.

We do have a British sporting team Doug – The British Lions Rugby Union team.

If you hold or are eligible to hold a British passport then you are British SPUGGIE J. If you don’t or are not eligible then you are not British. It is that simple.

P.S. The rest of the world has got over Xmas – all but this forum it seems.

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Yes, of course that would be the danger - it would need to be a fine balance of being proud to be British without any racism creeping in - that would be a very hard thing to do!

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I agree with WestEnder on this one, we should make more of St.Georges Day - I'd like to bet that most folk don't even know when it is

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It is sad that the thought of celebrating Britishness immediately becomes a subject of wariness about racism. The premise that being proud to be British may be equated with racism shows how insecure, if not paranoid, we have become. It is on a par with being wary of using Christian symbols for fear of offending other faiths. That is not being considerate to other races and faiths, it is patronising.

This is Great Britain, is it not? Not called "Great" because of glorification but, historically, to differentiate geographically from "Lesser Britain" - parts of Normandy and Brittany. We may originate from another part of the world, we may follow a religion other than the established Church but, if we hold or are entitled to hold a British Passport, we are British citizens. No matter what our origins we should celebrate the fact, all of us, together.

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i think it shud b on july 7th

just a thought.

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that sounds just about right west ender.:)

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I agree with leaving Remembrance Day/Sunday alone. Every other country has a different day from Remembrance day so why cant we?

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got to agree with you there westender....... great suggestion.

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I agree with that west ender, I think it's sad too, unfortunately it's true though, cross that fine line and you'll have everybody thats the least sensitive about thier origins, even brits down on you like a ton of bricks. I've debated this on other forums and it seems that what triggers people to play the race card on the subject of st georges day, britishness and flags, is when it comes across as saying we're better than others. We are great britain, we've achieved great things and should be able to be proud of that and everything good that we are now.

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I also agree with the day, that would be perfect.

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I don't see our problem. The United States is the most patriotic country in the world. They are also the most ethnic and culturally diverse country in the world, but that doesn't stop them being proud of their country. We should be able to do the same, without being accused of being racist.

We also have the lowest number of Bank Holidays in Europe, so we definetly due an extra holiday to celebrate our culture and heritage.

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Yes well, thats down to the people who pander to them when they cry racism. Personally I'd tell them to get a life cos most of it isn't intended that way and it's obvious that it isn't.

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I don't get up in a morning, think I know, I'll go down long street and buy some flags and put em up on the block cos it's overlooked by the window of a pakistani family, I put them up cos I'm celebrating something that we should be proud of, and it brightens the place up.
And no they never once complained, they probably took it for what it was.

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It only takes one numpty to stir things up and it falls down like the straw house in the three little pigs. :(

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alot of these pc ppl who cry or worry thats its racism make these claims pre-emptively - like i said b4 no one complained when i was a kid singin merry christmas at school and no one still does. everyone just likes to worry that someoen will.

*sigh* some politician just needs the balls to say lets do it - forget the pc brigade and choose a nice summer date. *cough* may 23rd *cough*

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:( non of them will

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Is something that is like a cross between Independance Day and Thanks Giving in the USA what you have in mind Willow?

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Why dont people just make more of St George's day instead of just ignoring it?

Make a real national party of it like the Paddy's do on St Patricks day

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Even St Patricks Day is on the wain but do agree that St Georges Day could be boost a bit along with St Andrews and St Davids days. The only other option would possibly be the day the Act of the Union brought the whole kingdom together when Scotland came on board politically. The only other would be the assenssion of James the VI/I creating the united kingdom.

26th of March 1707 and 24th of March 1603 respectively.

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yes, why don't you ?

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November the fifth, when the plot to upseat democracy was foiled.

My history's a bit hazy, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't it when James I/ James VI of Scotland was on the the throne? Which means it was after unification, so it could be 'British Day'.

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24th march 1603 with the throne only. Full integration only came in when Scotland disolved its parliment and the MPs went to London "alledgedly" on a nice fat bung of gold (26th March 1707) and is still acontensious issue with some.

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Rememberance day should be left as it is ffs stupid government :mad:

I do however, agree that St Georges day should be made into a public holiday and celebrated more as should St Andrews day for Scotland and St Davids day for Wales.

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Thanks Spug.

Must try harder, not such a good idea then.

Bonfire night is celebrated in Scotland though, if my memory serves me well of the fantastic display at Glasgow Green.

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:engsmil: RULE BRITANIA:engsmil:

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30th November.

Churchill's birthday.

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14th of november,,prince charles 's birthday... but whats that got to do with the price of fish

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I'm afraid if it was connected with the present Royal family I wouldn't partake, and would run round pulling down the bunting.;)

Churchill's birthday comes inbetween the long period between the August bank holiday and Christmas, a bit like Thanksgiving does in the States. Plus in most people's opinions was our greatest ever Prime Minister.

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oh yes ,,good idea,,it would break up that long stretch,,,,

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That's settled then. Thirtieth of November it is.

See I can be sensible.:)

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No...............

I think that we need to decide on a date that is not associated with any particular individual or event of the last 200 years.

It should be a new date specifically for celebrating British culture, without racial are non organic cultural overtones. It would be primarily a Christian Day, but other religions and Churches would be able to adapt the religious principal and celebrate the day within there own establishments.

I would suggest that the “British Festival Holiday” should take place between the months of February and March, June and July, October and November so that we get another Bank Holiday in the quite months.

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I would suggest celebrating the day that the first boat from the caribbean came over (cant remember the name or date sorry) but afterall that was the day that 'new Britain' was being built after the war wasnt it?
someone help me out with some facts and stuff please! :D

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The ship was the Empire Windrush. Docked at Tilbury. 1947 or 48, I think.

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thanks, Tealeaf.

well i tink if we could find out the day that the ship docked it would be an ideal day to celebrate 'Britain' day.

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What do you mean no?

I've decided.

By the way sometimes Easter falls in March.:D

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I really don't think this is such a good idea. We are British & we are different & we are better. So let other countries get up to such nonsense, but for us - we simply do not have to. Britain is, after all, a State comprised of 4 Nations, whereas for our friends in America, they are one nation comprised of 50 States. Let them celebrate the 4th of July. As for the Frogs - as far as I am aware - they have nowt else to celebrate, anyway. As for our portrayal of patriotism, them I'm more than happy to wave to our Sovereign Majesty the Queen once every 20 years or so.

We should certainly have an additional holiday or even two - maybe one in October or early November, such as Trafalgar Day or Bonfire Night, and maybe one in June - Waterloo day or D day -but call it that.

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That means by my poor mathmatical reckoning you've missed all her major celebrations, i.e. silver/golden jubilees, but will be there waving with the others on the centenary of Her Majesty's Coronation.

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Only because Jimmy I was also Jimmy VI of Scotland.

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I knew that.:)

I did actually put that in my post.:D

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Sorry my head is up my arther at the mo.

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So is his.....................................:D

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Well the main celebration on July 4th is freedom from England and basically Monarchy, the French also celebrate freedom from Monarchy, so the answer is get rid of the spunging Royalty make them a tourist attraction and then pick any day that is not a school holiday, bank holiday or liable to upset any religious or non ethnic member of the greater british isles and walla your in.

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What a most peculiar way of celebrating freedom from a foreign power. Every 4th July, you crack open a few 10 oz cans of some awful liquid that masquerades as beer, you next salute your Chinese-made flag and then you proceed to sing a eulogy to the technological prowness of the same foreign power that you seem so pleased to be rid of. The lyrics to that song were written, by the way, on the evening your capital city was being put to the torch by yes, the said same power; but to cap it all, the writer lacked the ability to compose his own tune but instead copied it from...and yes, you've guessed, an English drinking song.

Just amazing! You love us really & you love our Queen even more.

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Its ironic that we helped create the worlds most powerful enconimy and military force and yet slide backwards ourselfs. We should celibrate or achievements Apart from USA we help create modern India Pakistan Australia Canada New Zealand South Africa Eygypt Isreal Iraq etc etc etc.

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They are already tourist attraction, what else do they do bazf