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Acrylic-bob 15-01-2006 12:30

New Year...same old story!
 
Well, here we are, the New Year is fifteen days old already! And already HBC is making sure that the borough is going to get its fair share of bad luck, if nothing else. I was always told that leaving Christmas decorations up beyond twelfth night invited ill fortune. The superstition has certainly rung true in Accrington for the past few years and seems set to continue. I was in town this morning and snapped these choice memento's to municipal idleness and stupidity. I don't know whether they are still lit up at night, perhaps someone could enlighten us on that score.
http://static.flickr.com/9/86834289_1d5d60cf10.jpg?v=0

For a council that proclaims itself too strapped for cash to be able to afford to remove the Christmas decorations, year after depressing year, they don't seem to have the same problems when it comes to erecting pointless and utterly useless signage. Moreover, they appear to have few qualms about defacing the only half-way decent example of public architecture in the entire borough.
http://static.flickr.com/39/86834530_41157005f9.jpg?v=0

katex 15-01-2006 13:12

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Well, at least we have a sign which tells visitors that this building is actually 'The Town Hall' so many towns do not have this indication. Remember spending at least 40 minutes trying to get to my hotel in Belfast in a one way system 'cause some Irish guy told me to turn right at 'The Town Hall' he may have known which of the stately buildings was such, but to a stranger could have been the local supermarket !! (oh no, they would have been well marked, wouldn't they ??)
Think my luck will be out this year .. Christmas Tree still up, will remove today. :eek:

shakermaker 15-01-2006 15:54

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how can people get vexed about such a stupid thing??

PMT or something, A-B? THEY ARE ONLY FAIRY LIGHTS. calm down man.

chav1 15-01-2006 16:53

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Moreover, they appear to have few qualms about defacing the only half-way decent example of public architecture in the entire borough.

lol just wait until they start adding all the other languages to keep up with europe

sorry quality of artwork i had a heavy night on the firewater last night :D

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 17:16

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The ones here and several other places I have been through are still up and illuminating the streets. If they foster bad luck the everywere in a 20 miles radius of me is doomed to bad luck.

shakermaker 15-01-2006 17:23

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bad luck my arse.

just a few fairy lights that no one ever notices anyway; how are they gonna bring bad luck?!
im sure theres more important things for you old grumpy buggers to moan about than chrimbo lights.

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 17:24

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Will be bad luck when people are out with air rifles having a bit of target practice. :D

chav1 15-01-2006 17:25

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most of my decorations are down its just the celing ones i havnt took down yet mainly because i cant be bothered getting the ladders out

shakermaker 15-01-2006 17:26

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Will be bad luck when people are out with air rifles having a bit of target practice. :D

namely.....you??!
lol

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 17:26

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Save the hassle next crimbo. :D

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 17:27

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namely.....you??!
lol

No not me I prefer a catty as it requires mor finness. :p

shakermaker 15-01-2006 17:30

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lol.
thought you were staging a peaceful protest shooting down lights.....there could be a message there somewhere, you never know!

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 17:35

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lol.
thought you were staging a peaceful protest shooting down lights.....there could be a message there somewhere, you never know!

Wish I knew what the message was. Thing is shooting down lights is an art especially the little LED ones makes for great eye hand cordination. :D

shakermaker 15-01-2006 17:36

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noted..............
lol

Margaret Pilkington 15-01-2006 19:43

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I just hope they aren't expecting us to pay the electric bill with our council tax.

chav1 15-01-2006 20:21

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I just hope they aren't expecting us to pay the electric bill with our council tax.

it wouldnt surprise me if they were paying their OWN electric bill with our council tax

ime not saying councilors are crooks

honest :D

WillowTheWhisp 15-01-2006 21:50

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At least those nice new signs do actually echo the shape of the archway. I wouldn't have put it past them to tag oblong ones right across the arch thus hiding it totally from view.

I don't care if it does make me an old grouch I do think the lights should all be down by now and packed away out of harm's way. It just seems so tacky to leave them up way too long.

chav1 15-01-2006 21:56

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drove through haslegden tonight and theirs have been taken down

well i couldnt see them anyway :)

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 22:14

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drove through haslegden tonight and theirs have been taken down

well i couldnt see them anyway :)

PLEASE TELL ME YOU WERENT DRINING WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED!! :eek:

junetta 15-01-2006 23:01

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Living in Spain is lovely, they don't have any problems about when the decs come down, they don't bother about Friday the thirteenth and so it just goes to prove that none of it really matters.

I just can't bring myself to cut my nails on Friday or Sunday though!!

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 23:02

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Better beware we might all be overthere for crimbo in future. ;)

junetta 15-01-2006 23:08

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I know of a lovely hotel, mate, perfect for an Accyweb meet!!

Nice to see the photo too, I meant to mention it on the my last post. I really can't be homesick, can I?

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 23:25

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I know of a lovely hotel, mate, perfect for an Accyweb meet!!

Nice to see the photo too, I meant to mention it on the my last post. I really can't be homesick, can I?

Dosnt matter how far or how long you have been away there will allways be a bit of you that misses home. :)

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 23:26

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What photo???

junetta 15-01-2006 23:37

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Silly sausage, Acrylic-bob's photo of the Town Hall, the one that started me off!

SPUGGIE J 15-01-2006 23:51

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Silly sausage, Acrylic-bob's photo of the Town Hall, the one that started me off!

Its me my brain is errr on holiday somewere. :D

chav1 16-01-2006 00:32

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PLEASE TELL ME YOU WERENT DRINING WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED!! :eek:

if its good enough for stevie wonder its good enough for me :D

garinda 16-01-2006 10:47

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I'm sorry to disagree with you young Shakey.

For our Council not to take the Christmas decorations down on time, shows that they are totally disorganised.

When they are still up in July, and answer that it's all down to cost, perhaps they shouldn't have bothered anyway. Then again they wouldn't be able to pat themselves on the back at the 'grand' switch on back in December.

Urination in a brewery springs to mind.

SPUGGIE J 16-01-2006 11:37

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Maybe its a case of they might not be able to afford the cost of putting them back up again. :D

shakermaker 16-01-2006 14:08

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I'm sorry to disagree with you young Shakey.

For our Council not to take the Christmas decorations down on time, shows that they are totally disorganised.

When they are still up in July, and answer that it's all down to cost, perhaps they shouldn't have bothered anyway. Then again they wouldn't be able to pat themselves on the back at the 'grand' switch on back in December.

Urination in a brewery springs to mind.

the council totally disorganised is hardly a shock to any of us. i too am angry at the council for the prolongoed cost they are causing; but i just think that it isnt really worth getting this annoyed about when there are much more important issues going on in the world; when it's something this small just let it be!

garinda 16-01-2006 14:17

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I diasgree. The devil is in the detail.

WillowTheWhisp 16-01-2006 14:51

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i just think that it isnt really worth getting this annoyed about when there are much more important issues going on in the world; when it's something this small just let it be!

Yes in the great scheme of things it is small but if we just ignored all the shortcomings of our illustrious leaders we could end up living in a total slum. Is that what you'd like? We pay our council tax and we expect our council to be a bit better at handling the money and organising themselves.

Last week there was a disgusting pile of yuck dropped by the binmen in close proximity to my back door. It wasn't important in comparison to the problems in the middle east but that doesn't mean I have to live with it. I phoned them up and got them to send somebody up to shift it. No, I wasn't going to clean it up mysself as it wasn't my rubbish in the first place and secondly if the bin men had done a proper job first time round it wouldn't have been there.

shakermaker 16-01-2006 15:08

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a few fairy lights isnt a big yucky monstrosity is it though

jambutty 16-01-2006 15:12

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I don’t suppose that anyone has noticed but this forum is still in the Christmas theme.:D

Acrylic-bob 16-01-2006 16:27

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Originally Posted by shakermaker
the council totally disorganised is hardly a shock to any of us. i too am angry at the council for the prolongoed cost they are causing; but i just think that it isnt really worth getting this annoyed about when there are much more important issues going on in the world; when it's something this small just let it be!

Have you ever heard the story of the ha'porth of tar?

If older and more experienced heads than yours think it is a cause for concern that our council regularly fails in its responsibilities, would it require too much humility on your part to admit, however grudgingly, that they might just have a point?

I agree that the issue of public Christmas Decorations still hanging in the middle of January is a relatively minor incident, but sadly it is an incident that is symptomatic of the whole. If they cannot be arsed to get this one small thing right, what other things might they also be laggard in observing, and what consequences might that lead to...millions of pounds of council debt perhaps?

garinda 16-01-2006 16:32

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Have you ever heard the story of the ha'porth of tar?

If older and more experienced heads than yours think it is a cause for concern that our council regularly fails in its responsibilities, would it require too much humility on your part to admit, however grudgingly, that they might just have a point?

Blimey I agree.:D

Shakey in the great scheme of things it doesn't matter a great deal. It just shows the Borough up as one who can't organise much, then blames finances as the reason why we might still have Christmas lights up in the summer, as we did last year.

shakermaker 16-01-2006 16:41

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i DO see your point (which I agree with!!) as i have stated.....or were you too busy paraphrasing me up there?
"i too am angry at the council for the prolongoed cost they are causing"

try reading all of the post instead of the bits you so need to pick at, A-B.

shakermaker 16-01-2006 16:45

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should I use my invisible posts for evil or to fight crime? hmm.........

garinda 16-01-2006 16:47

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If HBC hasn't the finacal know how to take them down at least before July, they shouldn't put them up in the first place.

SPUGGIE J 16-01-2006 16:55

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:D Its because they are so bad at maths in the first place this situation arose. Anyone up for teaching the council basic maths and money balancing? :D

garinda 16-01-2006 17:08

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:D Its because they are so bad at maths in the first place this situation arose. Anyone up for teaching the council basic maths and money balancing? :D

They can when it's their own money.

Peter Britcliffe ran a succesful ladies dress shop for many years in Accrington, he still might for all I know.

Sadly for Hyndburn, the new black will be red for next season's figures.

shakermaker 16-01-2006 17:12

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ooo garinda that was VERY jeremy paxman!!

garinda 16-01-2006 17:43

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ooo garinda that was VERY jeremy paxman!!

....and if you're not careful you'll be the new Garinda.;)

Acrylic-bob 16-01-2006 17:48

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i DO see your point (which I agree with!!) as i have stated.....or were you too busy paraphrasing me up there?
"i too am angry at the council for the prolongoed cost they are causing"

try reading all of the post instead of the bits you so need to pick at, A-B.

What are you talking about????? "prolongoed cost" (sic)? The whole point of the argument is not that keeping the lights up is costing money, since clearly it isn't. If you read the starting post on this thread I said that they can find the money to stick up pointless signs but not the money to take the lights down, for the third year in a row. Practice what you preach and read the whole thing!

WillowTheWhisp 16-01-2006 18:50

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Originally Posted by jambutty
I don’t suppose that anyone has noticed but this forum is still in the Christmas theme.:D


I think that's because Roy has been very busy with work since Christmas, but he has given us the option to turn it off or on individually when he set it up. Just go to the bottom of the page at the left-hand side.

shakermaker 16-01-2006 21:45

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What are you talking about????? "prolongoed cost" (sic)? The whole point of the argument is not that keeping the lights up is costing money, since clearly it isn't. If you read the starting post on this thread I said that they can find the money to stick up pointless signs but not the money to take the lights down, for the third year in a row. Practice what you preach and read the whole thing!

Your reference to what money was/is being spent on was what I meant, obviously I didn't make it clear; I apologize.
My original point was that I do not see why people are getting all riled up about the issue of the lights/signs situation as it isn't a one off, and it isn't exactly a huge financial or aesthetic problem to Accrington!
Perhaps I'm wrong....but I do have a right to be, don't I? ;)

garinda 16-01-2006 22:39

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Your reference to what money was/is being spent on was what I meant, obviously I didn't make it clear; I apologize.
My original point was that I do not see why people are getting all riled up about the issue of the lights/signs situation as it isn't a one off, and it isn't exactly a huge financial or aesthetic problem to Accrington!
Perhaps I'm wrong....but I do have a right to be, don't I? ;)


See you're the new Garinda.

A-b's fresh whipping boy.:D

My tip would be show him due respect, be a bit cheeky, drop in the odd curtsie, and you'll soon have him eating out of the palm of your hand.:)

The best of British etc.

shakermaker 16-01-2006 22:42

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do i get the feeling i should be a little worried?

ah the influence of AW is overpowering!!

chav1 17-01-2006 01:43

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Originally Posted by garinda
They can when it's their own money.

Peter Britcliffe ran a succesful ladies dress shop for many years in Accrington, he still might for all I know.

Sadly for Hyndburn, the new black will be red for next season's figures.

what shop is this then..?

i do know of a cloths shop that used to be across from chaplins chip shop (its a chineese now) that was going to be sold to a drinks company but luckily a petition was set up by just drinks further up the road and it didnt get to go ahead thanx to almost everyone in the area sighning the petition against it

unfortunatly despite this petition a couple of years after booze busters managed to get permision to open up yet another un needed offlicence and ever since it opened my area has been plagued by under aged drinkers in the street , vadelism and broken glass from the bottles all over the damn place

ime not saying booze busters sells to minors but its their bags that get left behind with the empties so they are getting it somehow from there

SPUGGIE J 17-01-2006 11:24

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It seems to be anational problem this broken booze bottles and underage drunks. It wouldnt be bad if they binned the rubbish and used the bottle banks but maybe they are so out of their skulls they have dropsey. It is quieter up here for the first few weeks in the New Year but it wont be long before normal services is resumed especially the hounding of people going into the local shops that do serve booze.


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