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WillowTheWhisp 19-01-2006 12:43

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The Bishop of Burnley has consecrated a bit of woodland so that a family could have a Christian burial there. It sounds like a lovely idea, a beautiful peaceful setting. Apparently if you opt for a woodland burial you must have a bio-degradeable coffin (looked like a woven basket) and plant a tree rather than have a headstone. Very nice. Then I suddenly thought - what happens in future years if somebody unearths a skeleton? No headstone, no traces of a coffin. Would it lead to a possible murder enquiry?

garinda 19-01-2006 12:50

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Slightly off topic so sorry, but I read that Sikhs are to take Newcastle Council to the European Court of Justice because it only provides cremations and not traditional funeral pyres. All to be heard with the benefit of Legal Aid.

This they say it's an infringment of their human rights, as they aren't able to practice their religion properly. Total madness. If they don't like it they should move back to the Indian sub-continent, and have as many fires as they like.

Back on thread, the woodland setting sounds lovely. However I intend to be scattered to the four winds up on Ossy moors.:)

SPUGGIE J 19-01-2006 12:57

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If you plant a tree its siting along with the grave should show in a set of records held by the Church so they know who is burried. As it is concecrated ground it might still show as a cemetery.

WillowTheWhisp 19-01-2006 12:57

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I don't think it will show as a cemetary, that's supposedly the whole point. It's not an area for oodles of graves, at least I don't thnk so.

I know where I'd like to be scattered, I think I'd better do something about making sure my nearest and dearest are aware.

Doug 19-01-2006 12:58

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These types of burials have to be registered with the Local Authority; the position of the grave is located on utility and land use maps to avoid misconstrued assumptions if unearthed. You also need to consider that the depth of the burial will rule out any general unearthing by animals, unless they have access to a JCB. The tree is also registered as a grave marker to insure that its not felled or cleared in a manner that disturbs the grave. Just a note that you can’t just go anywhere, there are rules regarding water sources etc.

garinda 19-01-2006 13:01

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There are only about five plots left at Immanuel Church yard in Oswaldtistle.

Anybody that prefers a burial should source their plot now.

You could use it as a place to have a picnic, until you needed it for it's proper use.;)

SPUGGIE J 19-01-2006 13:05

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The whole Idea has a nice ring to it. You are burried and then supply the tree with what it needs. Its rebirth in a way and eco friendly.

garinda 19-01-2006 13:08

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Perhaps HBC could provide an even greener alternative?

Just pop your dearly departed in one of the green wheelie bins, and hey presto.;)

Doug 19-01-2006 13:12

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
The whole Idea has a nice ring to it. You are burried and then supply the tree with what it needs. Its rebirth in a way and eco friendly.

That’s a pleasant and comforting thought spuggie, very commendable comments which will put you on my to give list for the next time it will let me give you karma. :)

Doug 19-01-2006 13:15

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Originally Posted by garinda
Perhaps HBC could provide an even greener alternative?

Just pop your dearly departed in one of the green wheelie bins, and hey presto.;)

This however is not.....:eek:

Therefore I shell endeavour to make sure that I tiss in your green wheelie the very next time I pass your back yard :D

garinda 19-01-2006 13:16

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Originally Posted by Doug
This however is not, therefore I shell endeavour to make sure that I tiss in your green wheelie the very next time I pass your back yard :D

'Scuse me, courtyard if you don't mind.:)

Doug 19-01-2006 13:21

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Originally Posted by garinda
'Scuse me, courtyard if you don't mind.:)

Cobbles…………:D

grannyclaret 19-01-2006 14:14

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I dont want a burial at all .... i cant stand worms now..so i dont want them crawling all over me....YUK...

SPUGGIE J 19-01-2006 14:31

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
I dont want a burial at all .... i cant stand worms now..so i dont want them crawling all over me....YUK...

;) So its a bar-b-que then? ;)

grannyclaret 19-01-2006 14:42

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
;) So its a bar-b-que then? ;)

well you could wait for high tide,, and then feed me to the fish,,:D

Doug 19-01-2006 15:54

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Contaminating coastal waters is a offence Grannyclerat, you’ve seen the rubbish that gets washed up at Cleveleys, why in gods name would you want to sail off into the sunset in that sqit. :D :D :D

lettie 19-01-2006 16:19

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I think it sounds rather nice. Doug is right about the contamination of waterways etc. It is not illegal to bury someone wherever you choose but there are rules to be followed in order to inform people etc, therefore some sites would never be acceptable. We have guidelines for people wanting to bury babies, and it is acceptable for them to be buried in the parent's garden (a fact that the local police found quite shocking). As long as the burial is of a measured depth, does not interfere with waterways and any future buyers of the house must be informed of the burial. There are several other points which must be adhered to but it is legal.

Neil 19-01-2006 17:16

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Originally Posted by lettie
it is acceptable for them to be buried in the parent's garden

I think a gravestone in the back garden would put me of purchasing a house.

Doug 19-01-2006 22:53

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Originally Posted by Doug
That’s a pleasant and comforting thought spuggie, very commendable comments which will put you on my to give list for the next time it will let me give you karma. :)


woodland burials 19-01-2006 23:44 A touch of brown nosing


Oh dear, four away, :) did we not like it then……….. idiot. What does it matter? Is some little dick not getting the attention then. :D :D

garinda 19-01-2006 22:54

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Originally Posted by Doug
woodland burials 19-01-2006 23:44 A touch of brown nosing


Oh dear, four away, :) did we not like it then……….. idiot. What does it matter? Is some little dick not getting the attention then. :D :D

What's that mean???

grannyclaret 19-01-2006 22:59

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Originally Posted by Doug
Contaminating coastal waters is a offence Grannyclerat, you’ve seen the rubbish that gets washed up at Cleveleys, why in gods name would you want to sail off into the sunset in that sqit. :D :D :D

i rather fancy a burial at sea :rolleyes: ...being chucked off a ship with a union jack over...:cool: .but then again,,maybe not..

garinda 19-01-2006 23:02

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
i rather fancy a burial at sea :rolleyes: ...being chucked off a ship with a union jack over...:cool: .but then again,,maybe not..


Granny you might end up washed up in Morecambe, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.;)

Doug 19-01-2006 23:06

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
i rather fancy a burial at sea :rolleyes: ...being chucked off a ship with a union jack over...:cool: .but then again,,maybe not..

Granny, they have even bigger worms out at sea…..I’m not sure that burial at sea is as romantic and glorious as it first appears.

I’m not all that keen to make arrangement of any kind, but I quite liked the wicker basket that was on the news, something of a pagan bent to it I thought. It would certainly be more fetching stood up in the corner at the wake than a tradition box…..:)

ANNE 19-01-2006 23:37

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When I go they can do what ever they like with me coz I wont be there.
But I have given strict instructions has to what is to happen to me.
I want a party. Not a wake.

ANNE 19-01-2006 23:40

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I do like the woods idea.
It would be nice to know my remains are doing some good.

junetta 20-01-2006 00:28

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Folks get put into holes in walls here as the ground is too hard to dig into. Each year, on a certain date, all the families go to the churchyard to have a party with their loved ones. Sounds rather nice!

grannyclaret 20-01-2006 01:23

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a nice egyption sacoficus (cant spell it)would be a nice idea

Less 20-01-2006 05:47

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
well you could wait for high tide,, and then feed me to the fish,,:D

Go for it granny, I would love to see greenpeace spending hours trying to get you to swim back out.

godfrey 21-01-2006 14:44

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At the last funeral I attended for an old friend in Maulden, he had a green burial.
He was a delightful old codger. Parkinsons never did clog his active brain, he would always jump in on a badly thought out argument. So I dare say that he had specified his own green funeral.

I was over the moon to see that he was the first to be buried in this virgin green field. On top of that he was in a cardboard box. What a laugh.

katex 22-01-2006 11:01

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Originally Posted by Neil
I think a gravestone in the back garden would put me of purchasing a house.

Just reminded me that my mother-in-law's ashes are somewhere in my back garden, not so bad as a burial I know, however, as ex-hubby hasn't been around for 19 years, good job she and I got on well .. couldn't really tell him to "Go! and take your mother with you!".
Makes you think about the baby thing however, would be traumatic if the parents ever moved house and have to remove the remains to their new premises don't you think.

pendy 23-01-2006 17:10

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I'm a great believer in cremation, takes up less space, and the ashes are organic so they do the land some good. I want to be scattered on Pendle Hill, I've told the children where to stand, and warned them about wind direction! - I don't want to hang out forever in their coat seams. I have also specified that I want the cheapest possible pine box, preferably without handles, in fact a cardboard box sounds like a great idea, but it would probably have to be line with polythene or something else waterproof - don't ask why! I think cremation will eventually become compulsory, since we're running out of spaces to put people.

katex 25-01-2006 17:18

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Originally Posted by pendy
the ashes are organic so they do the land some good. I want to be scattered on Pendle Hill, I've told the children where to stand, and warned them about wind direction! -

May be wrong about this Pendy, little piece on the news this morning that too many people in Scotland are scattering their relatives ashes on popular summits, and thereby causing the content of the soil to change, which in turn is killing off all the grasses and plants. The suggestion is that they bury the the ashes .. not the same though, is it ?

WillowTheWhisp 25-01-2006 18:25

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I thought when they scattered them on the rose garden at the cemetary it was good for the roses. They always seem to get scattered on rose gardens.

katex 25-01-2006 20:31

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Dunno Willow, just repeating what they said .. never mentioned bushes .. not many on summits of hills, I suppose. Sure some gardening expert on here can fill us in. Perhaps we are good for Roses, who knows ? Hope all the heather is not being killed off though or the thistle, Scotland will have no National Flower left then.


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