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baby boo 20-01-2006 12:32

Whale in london?!
 
Seems very strange but its very true!
Theres a whale swimming about in the river thames. Experts believe its a bottlenose whale and that its only a baby. Ive been watching it on the news and at one point it was swimming to close to the shore and almost beached itself, there was a bit of red in the water that looked like blood coming from its tail but other than that its swimming around happily.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...209846,00.html
have a look!

shakermaker 20-01-2006 12:37

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Heard it on Jo Whiley on Radio 1 this morning and thought it was a wind up!!

Tealeaf 20-01-2006 12:40

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It should be OK providing they keep the Japanese tourists off the pleasure boats. Otherwise the poor little thing might end up getting harpooned.

baby boo 20-01-2006 12:43

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thats just the thing they have been letting the tourist boat follow it!! it could get distressed!

West Ender 20-01-2006 15:22

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Funny how things change, isn't it? A hundred years or so ago it would, by now, have been made into soap, corsets and pies!

Anyway I wish it well, I like whales. In general they have more sense than some humans. ;)

Sara 20-01-2006 19:21

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Heard it on the evening news, apparantly there is another one as well now.

grannyclaret 20-01-2006 19:45

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it said that people are now getting scared.....

Margaret Pilkington 20-01-2006 19:57

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Things don't look too good for this poor whale.....it has become tired and distressed and it is feared that it will not survive.

Tinkerbelle 20-01-2006 20:47

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I had a really good look when the news was on, I didn't recognise it Rind ....... you? ;) :D

Seriously it's awful to see an animal in such distress. Will it always be one of lifes little mysteries as to the reason why they do this? I hope it survives, they were hoping it would go out on the tide.

glasgow guy 20-01-2006 22:58

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I am pretty certain that the real reason whales beach themselves is to die - they know they are going to die and head for the shore, beach themsleves and wait for nature to take it course..all sad but I am sure its true...

Tinkerbelle 20-01-2006 23:01

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Originally Posted by glasgow guy
I am pretty certain that the real reason whales beach themselves is to die - they know they are going to die and head for the shore, beach themsleves and wait for nature to take it course..all sad but I am sure its true...


Why would you have small pods of them trying to beach themselves though? Surely they aren't intelligent enough for suicide pacts?

simon 20-01-2006 23:02

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Is that why people keep trying to shove me in the sea when I am on my holiday :(

garinda 20-01-2006 23:02

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Is it like swans?

Does the Queen get first dibs?

garinda 20-01-2006 23:03

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Originally Posted by simon
Is that why people keep trying to shove me in the sea when I am on my holiday :(

Tinks and myself told you.

Black is much more flattering than that black and white wet suit you wear.;)

big al 20-01-2006 23:03

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Hope Ann Robinson isnt in London. She might upset it more!!!

WillowTheWhisp 21-01-2006 08:32

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Surely if this whale is trying to get to land to die in peace then people trying to get it to go back out to sea are really being very cruel. Maybe it's just best not to interfere with nature.

K.S.H 21-01-2006 18:25

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Just been on the news that the whale has now died

Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2006 18:32

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That is really sad.

Basher 21-01-2006 18:33

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Very sad :(

mrskitty 21-01-2006 18:58

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RIP whale xxx

Doug 21-01-2006 19:06

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It’s very distressing actually; more should have been done sooner. This was allowed to become a spectacle in the early stages instead of a rescue attempt. Needless waist……

ANNE 21-01-2006 19:09

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Ah. Poor thing.

Tinkerbelle 21-01-2006 21:28

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Originally Posted by Doug
It’s very distressing actually; more should have been done sooner. This was allowed to become a spectacle in the early stages instead of a rescue attempt. Needless waist……

Totally agree Doug ....... such a shame! :(

simon 21-01-2006 21:36

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Totally argree Tinks and doug....................surely a lot earlier a barge could have strapped this whale against its side and towed it out to open water....... where the other whales(most likely distressed family members) could have looked after there own :(:(



SAD does not cover it

glasgow guy 21-01-2006 22:15

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it cost £50k to move this whale, now its us that foot the bill - is this a needless waste of money given that it could have been put to better use....?
or is it justified ?
like I have already stated - whales apparently beach themselves in preperation to die, some guy was on tv & radio also stating this so if these people know this (may) be the case why go and move it ??
let it be and let nature take its course and let the £50k be put to better use...?
our local council bangs on about how it has no money to spend...and you wonder why..??

West Ender 21-01-2006 22:30

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I agree the poor creature should have been left alone. It has been noted that it was injured, otherwise why would it have made its way up the Thames? A healthy whale just wouldn't do that. While I appreciate that everyone was trying to help it, it would have been kinder to leave it alone and give it respite and dignity in its last hours.

Poor whale, I hope it realised that people just cared.

cashman 21-01-2006 23:55

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whilst its a shame i love animals etc i agree with those who said its what they do when they are ready to croak- it should have been left to nature, what really gobsmacked me was a report of a woman in southend who said (quote) i didn't realise something like this could affect me so much. i am going to get more involved in these things in future to --- make sure it never happens again! now excuse me but short of damming the thames estuary -HOW???? the hell can you- talk about melodramatic people.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Less 22-01-2006 00:24

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One of the 'experts' did say that any whale found in our rivers belongs to the Queen, is she going to wake up with a suprise on her doorstep tomorrow?

Neil 22-01-2006 07:08

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Originally Posted by glasgow guy
it cost £50k to move this whale

£100k on the BBC News website.

glasgow guy 22-01-2006 10:16

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well thats even worse then....

staggeringman 22-01-2006 15:56

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what they doing with its remains ? i mean while its still fresh there is a lot of soup, oil,loads of candles,the tons of steaks.........etc.the soup wagons down london will be dishing it up for weeks :rolleyes:
its just not blubber is it?...............na cant be gotta be some meat in there somewhere.

harwood red 22-01-2006 18:25

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it has been stated that they believe it died due to the weight of it's body crushing it's organs, so it sounds like the rescue attempt may have actually led to it's demise :(

WillowTheWhisp 22-01-2006 21:12

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The poor thing should have been left to die in peace. Sometimes people interfere with nature when they really don't understand what is happening and why and they just make matters worse. I realise people probably had the best of intentions but instead of being able to die quietly and peacefully this poor creature was tormented and suffered needlessly in its final hours.

cashman 22-01-2006 22:24

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
The poor thing should have been left to die in peace. Sometimes people interfere with nature when they really don't understand what is happening and why and they just make matters worse. I realise people probably had the best of intentions but instead of being able to die quietly and peacefully this poor creature was tormented and suffered needlessly in its final hours.

hitting the nail on the head springs to mind.

Less 22-01-2006 23:36

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I tell you now, it wasn't really granny claret!

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...8&postcount=28

WillowTheWhisp 23-01-2006 07:33

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Originally Posted by Less
One of the 'experts' did say that any whale found in our rivers belongs to the Queen


Maybe they should send her the bill then?

grannyclaret 23-01-2006 16:34

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Originally Posted by Less
I tell you now, it wasn't really granny claret!

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...8&postcount=28


:banlama: no less i am still here :D :rolleyz8: :rolleyz8: :rolleyz8: :D
its sad though....

Tealeaf 24-01-2006 14:09

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We know that this whale was very sick before it died and possibly when it swam up river; if so, I wonder if it vomited? I bet it did. I am very tempted to go and have a wonder along the local foreshore this evening and see what I can find. If it's any of this stuff (link below) then I could well be rich.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4642722.stm

katex 24-01-2006 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
The poor thing should have been left to die in peace. Sometimes people interfere with nature when they really don't understand what is happening and why and they just make matters worse. I realise people probably had the best of intentions but instead of being able to die quietly and peacefully this poor creature was tormented and suffered needlessly in its final hours.

Not quite sure I agree with you all on this one. I'm sure that the vets, experts, etc., assessed the situation and decided that this whale had a ?% chance of survival; and any chance is better than no chance. They didn't know the extent of its injuries and,yes, did become a public spectacle (not that the whale would care much). Also sure politics came into this judgement too, and cost of public money would have been considered. If they had not done anything, would you not being asking 'Why not ?'
One would hope that a Human Being would have been given this hope.
Can't say for sure, but feel that it was ensured that this creature's last journey was pain free. Hope so anyway.

thomas_045 25-01-2006 14:37

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On MSN Today it says the whale died of dehydration. Ah well. I knew they should of left it in the water.

http://www.msn.co.uk/htx/londonwhale/Default.asp

garinda 25-01-2006 14:51

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Any death is sad, but when it happens all over the world thousands of times a day, one hundred thousand pounds does seem a lot to spend on a poor creature that may have been dieing anyway.

Tealeaf 25-01-2006 16:23

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They should have shot it as soon as it was beached and sold the body to Billingsgate Fish Market. There are about 50,000 Japanese living in London & they would have paid top whack prices for a slice of Whale belly.

Instead we had a weekend of sanctimonious, sentimental drivel which took over the entire news channels. Not only that, but every liberal, animal-loving, save-the-whale loonatic (with their family of ill-beheaved brats) from south-east England decided to decend on my local riverside hostelry on saturday afternoon.
Their purpose? To yell and shout at this comatose fish. Would you go to hospital and do the same to a dying relative? No! But who can understand the logic of these madmen? I do know that my quiet drinks were ruined by this mob.

baby boo 25-01-2006 17:14

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
They should have shot it as soon as it was beached and sold the body to Billingsgate Fish Market. There are about 50,000 Japanese living in London & they would have paid top whack prices for a slice of Whale belly.

Instead we had a weekend of sanctimonious, sentimental drivel which took over the entire news channels. Not only that, but every liberal, animal-loving, save-the-whale loonatic (with their family of ill-beheaved brats) from south-east England decided to decend on my local riverside hostelry on saturday afternoon.
Their purpose? To yell and shout at this comatose fish. Would you go to hospital and do the same to a dying relative? No! But who can understand the logic of these madmen? I do know that my quiet drinks were ruined by this mob.

they would have paid top whack prices but then again so would the people eating it!
It was a weekend of a small piece of history, i mean come on a whale in the thames!! id love to have been there, probably wont happen again in my lifetime.
we dont yell and shout at our relatives when there dying but half of the time the familiy will do anything to keep the poor person alive! when they do pop their clogs the person whos loved one it is screams and crys im not being heartless but its true! id probably do the same?
Now that theres no whale this weekend i suppose you get your chance of your quiet drink after all!! :Banane35:

yerself 25-01-2006 17:49

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