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jimmi5bellies 04-02-2006 17:52

Dont You Just Love CCTV ...
 
Got a camera but never used it in the last 6 months due to getting a new TV set up and couldnt be bothered going through the rigmarole of setting it all up. Decided to put it on today to show a neighbour that it wasnt a dummy camera. Within seconds of putting it on we had to hit the record button.
Caught the neighbours kids ( who never do anything wrong by the way in their parents eyes) kicking cars and letting my neighbours tyres down.
Called the police who came within the hour and gave the kids the best telling off they have ever had. :D :D :D They tried to deny it was them untill the police told each child which tyre they had done and that it was all on tape and she had watched it. The camera even picked up the sound of air being released from the tyres.

I think they all thought it was a dummy camera as well ...... wonder if they will start to behave themselves now, as when the police went they all stood in the middle of the road gaping at the camera.

Ill probably wake up in the morning having to report it stolen ....:D

Madhatter 04-02-2006 21:49

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Feels good when it works and has actually proved usefull.

Neil 05-02-2006 05:49

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Excellent, I like hearing good things about CCTV. I think you will find you need a sign up stating you are recording the public. If not you are probably breaking the law, but who cares you caught 'em :D

jimmi5bellies 05-02-2006 13:44

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Got a sign up but the sun has faded it ... :D
Young lad keeps on coming to his front door and looking over at the camera now :p

Madhatter 05-02-2006 14:01

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Only if it's being recorded. If it's recording a public place your supposed to be registered and have a reason for the system and have signs up and stop any joe blogs from viewing it. bla bla. As long as it's not looking in someone’s window though I can't see a problem unless someone stirs it up. I was told a story of a guy who installed a pan tilt and zoom camera to watch his boat which was on the canal across a piece of common land from his house. he recorded on to a hard drive, deleted it but later found out his boat had been vandalised. He took it to a cctv specialist to see if the could recover it which they did. Problem was he could use it as evidence, because also on the same recording, and probably the reason why it was deleted, was images of a zoom in to a house window over the other side of the canal and a young lady getting changed. He could get in to serious trouble for what he's doing plus he never got the culprits that vandalised the boat.

cctv code of practice summary.
http://www.forum.atherstone-online.c...1137147185,s=0

jimmi5bellies 05-02-2006 14:08

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Awwww the naughty man :D

My camera is aimed in my garden and the turning bay on the road. Ive had cctv camera's for about 6 years now and the police are fully aware i have them. It was on their recomendation that i installed them.
The police woman who came yesterday had no problem with the angle it is aimed at and had some great fun with the kids when thet denied doing what they had done.

Madhatter 05-02-2006 14:28

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Well, if they recomended you do, and I know they do, they should have gave you a leaflet with that blurb on on that link. Thats naughty of them. I don't really think that police care unless they recieve complaints, such as it watching someones window, by the sounds of it you don't record unless you have reason to, and it's not as if its going to be used in court is it.

jimmi5bellies 05-02-2006 15:01

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No, ive never needed to use anything in court. They couldnt do as my video isnt one of those who date stamps when you are recording. Its more as a detterent really.
I had a window put through for no reason shortly after i moved into this flat so the cameras was re-installed and its been peacefull ever since. We are having problems with local young kids kicking balls against the cars. Now they know the camera is real i hope they will stop.
Also since re-installing the camera it has stopped car theives using our street as a dumping patch. We also had one lad that regular roared down at speeds of 50mph + and using the turning point to do handbrake turns. That has stopped too . :D

Madhatter 05-02-2006 16:55

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Did you know we have more cctv cameras in this country than any other in the world. City centre streets, most town centre streets even villages, shopping centres, shops, garages, hospitals, police stations, factories, homes. Not forgetting buses, taxis, trains, police cars and hgv's.

Sara 05-02-2006 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmi5bellies
Decided to put it on today to show a neighbour that it wasnt a dummy camera. Within seconds of putting it on we had to hit the record button.
Caught the neighbours kids ( who never do anything wrong by the way in their parents eyes) kicking cars and letting my neighbours tyres down.

Was it the same neighbour you were showing it to who is the parent of the children? If so i would have loved to have seen her face. Can't stand parents who has the attitude that their children can NEVER do anything wrong, and blames others.

Madhatter 05-02-2006 18:04

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You like me then cos I'm not a parent, so I cant have that attitude.

Basher 05-02-2006 20:51

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Poetic justice :p

I'm glad to hear that the police responded in a positive, timely manner to your complaint.

jimmi5bellies 06-02-2006 09:03

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Originally Posted by Sara
Was it the same neighbour you were showing it to who is the parent of the children? If so i would have loved to have seen her face. Can't stand parents who has the attitude that their children can NEVER do anything wrong, and blames others.

No, unfortunately it wasnt. I am very tempted in sending her a copy though to watch at her leisure. :D :D :D

Sara 06-02-2006 15:33

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What a shame it weren't the same neighbour. Send her a video anonymously, should make her day.

grannyclaret 06-02-2006 16:12

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send it to youve been framed.. you could make £250...that would teach her

SPUGGIE J 06-02-2006 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Madhatter
Did you know we have more cctv cameras in this country than any other in the world. City centre streets, most town centre streets even villages, shopping centres, shops, garages, hospitals, police stations, factories, homes. Not forgetting buses, taxis, trains, police cars and hgv's.


So we are all film stars now yeeeee haaaaa. Seriously though if they work and act as a deterent or can help convict a criminal then I am ok with them.

Madhatter 06-02-2006 21:45

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I am to a point. It's what happend to the recordings that bothers me. I don't expect to walk down town and have a load of people on the internet watching me via a web cam in the town centre.

Madhatter 06-02-2006 21:45

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I am to a point. It's what happend to the recordings that bothers me. I don't expect to walk down town and have a load of people on the internet watching me via a web cam in the town centre.

mani 06-02-2006 22:58

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but isnt it a shame now to say the state of the community is such that we all feel as if we req our own private cctv systems?

ps nice one jimmi!!

Madhatter 09-02-2006 20:08

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Is it such a state that we feel the need, or has it always been in a state but we can now afford the technology to set it up?

mani 10-02-2006 01:57

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no i think its deffo the state that we feel the need

why else would you buy it if u didnt feel the need?

jimmi5bellies 11-02-2006 11:51

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*sniger*
Big brother is watching you ..when you play outside my flat !

SPUGGIE J 11-02-2006 12:31

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Originally Posted by jimmi5bellies
*sniger*
Big brother is watching you ..when you play outside my flat !

Does this mean you have some candid camera and video nasties moments???

ossymal 11-02-2006 19:52

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cctv is only part of whats happening... did you also know that they plan to fit gps units to new cars as from 2009? this will enable the government and police to track a vehicle and monitor speed etc.... now thats more worrying!

ossymal 11-02-2006 20:04

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Another thing i haven't mentioned(going off on a tangent here!) apnr cameras... these are replacing what we all know as gatso cameras and gatsoII cameras... More discreet and harder to spot....

jimmi5bellies 12-02-2006 12:09

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Does this mean you have some candid camera and video nasties moments???

working on that one :D
Have caught somebody kissing somebody they shouldnt have once :D :D :D :D :D , just had a little giggle to myself and taped over it though ....

SPUGGIE J 12-02-2006 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossymal
cctv is only part of whats happening... did you also know that they plan to fit gps units to new cars as from 2009? this will enable the government and police to track a vehicle and monitor speed etc.... now thats more worrying!

Now thats a case of Big Brother is watching you. How long befor everyone starts to get nervous when out because of the suspision of hidden cameras wating their every move. Wouldnt suprise me if in the future we are all tagged the same as some criminals so the govenment of the day knows what we are up to were we go were we shop etc.

ossymal 12-02-2006 13:44

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thats so tru spudge... In south america they already insert a mini gps tag on serious offenders under the skin so it can't be removed! it started trialing last summer. Any mobile can be located too... it can be triangulated to with a 10 metre radius..

garinda 12-02-2006 14:42

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Don't forget that while you are watching kids vandalise your cars on CCTV, some perv might be recording your children playing out for less noble motives.

ossymal 12-02-2006 14:55

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just so everyone knows the rules on installing cctv on your own property. If the image contains any other persons property or captures any public view you need to get permission to have it... RIPA are the main body governing this and you also need to contact the informational commissioner for authorisation.. If anyone wants a copy of what you may have recorded which they can legally ask for they must pay you for access to it.. usually around a tenner... you can request a copy of the image from a bank for any footage you were in but you would have to say why and pay a tenner...

SPUGGIE J 13-02-2006 08:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
Don't forget that while you are watching kids vandalise your cars on CCTV, some perv might be recording your children playing out for less noble motives.

In this day and age a distinct possibility.

SPUGGIE J 13-02-2006 08:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossymal
just so everyone knows the rules on installing cctv on your own property. If the image contains any other persons property or captures any public view you need to get permission to have it... RIPA are the main body governing this and you also need to contact the informational commissioner for authorisation.. If anyone wants a copy of what you may have recorded which they can legally ask for they must pay you for access to it.. usually around a tenner... you can request a copy of the image from a bank for any footage you were in but you would have to say why and pay a tenner...

Does this not defeat bthe purpose of CCTV? Besides it could be edited to get rid of the "public view you need to get permission to have."

ossymal 13-02-2006 14:51

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you are legally allowed to request for any captured image of yourself from anywhere in its raw format. They cannot supply it you in any other format without your consent.. hope this helps you to understand how the law stands on this topic...

Madhatter 13-02-2006 17:41

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They must ask why, AND it has to be relevant to why the system was installed. For example a crime has been commited and the system was fitted to detect crimes being commited. They have the right to refuse if they feel the reason is not genuine. CCTV images are not meant for public entertainment and are not supposed to be viewable by joe blogs. As I've said they might turn a blind eye but missuse it for something that gets a complaint made against you and the law is on their side.


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