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entwisi 21-02-2006 08:30

Sensible but enforceable?
 
I spotted the other day that Ossy mills send out a guy each morning to put cones along Moscow Mill street to stop parking. Whilst I agree this is a very sensible thing to do or it would be bedlam on there what chance do we reckon they would have if someone decided to ignore the cones and park anyway. Shouldn't HBC be helping by applying to put single yellows down or something?

garinda 21-02-2006 09:56

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I think it's so residents can park infront of their own houses. If single yellow lines were introduced it would mean that they couldn't park in front of their own houses all the time, unless they organised a residents only parking scheme which would cost HBC/us some money.

It seems to work quite well, and provides a jobs for the cone/parking attendant people.

Gayle 21-02-2006 10:17

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Oswaldtwistle Mills have just applied for planning permission to turn the land which used to be the petrol station into a car park. It's already being used as a car park for staff but not public.

Neil 21-02-2006 10:44

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It looks like residents parking scheme's are on the way to Hyndburn, so Ossy Mills might be one of the first.

garinda 21-02-2006 10:44

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Originally Posted by Neil
It looks like residents parking scheme's are on the way to Hyndburn, so Ossy Mills might be one of the first.

How do you know that?

SPUGGIE J 21-02-2006 11:35

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He has inside info. :)

mthead 21-02-2006 12:39

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It appears Ossy turning into the countries biggest car park.........LOL:)

chav1 21-02-2006 17:37

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residential parking what a wonderfull idea that is

some moaning person gets to govern a piece of road outside their house so that no one else can park there for a few hours yet the person with residential parking can freely dump their car outside somone elses house despite not likeing it happen to themselves

the way i se eit is as long as you have road tax and there are no double yellow lines etc people should be able to park where the hell they like

i swear people with residential parking turn into the local nazi squad , an ex girlfriend had an ill elderly grandmother who had a lot of difficulty moving about and when she was taken to hospital there was no parking spaces on teh carpark so they parked on the road next to blackburn royal infirmary.despite there been plenty of room some selfish idiot rang up the trafffic warden and when they returned to the car they had a fixed penalty.the person who reported it had watched the elderly lady been removed from the car and it was very clear why they chose to park near the hospital :mad:

people park outside my house all the time and walk into town and although it irritates me as i like to have my car near the window so i can keep an eye on it i have no more rights to park my car there than anyone else who has a car that is taxed

if there is a genuine reason for people to need their car parked outside their homes then they should get a disabled parking space designated to them and if they dont qualify for one then they should shut up and walk to their house from the car like everyone else has too

grego 21-02-2006 19:48

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I dont think Accrington needs permit holder parking, there are loads of parking spaces in Accy centre people shouldn't need to park outside the houses that are close to town. Also you have to pay to park outside your own house with permit holder parking.

WillowTheWhisp 21-02-2006 22:21

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Why do people park outside your house and walk into town Chav when there's a free car park right slap bang in the middle of town and it's never full?

chav1 21-02-2006 22:35

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Why do people park outside your house and walk into town Chav when there's a free car park right slap bang in the middle of town and it's never full?

i think its because people dont have those stupid parking disks that are never available when u need one

SPUGGIE J 21-02-2006 22:38

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A lot of them might be too scared to use the Arndale one in case they are mugged.

chav1 21-02-2006 22:39

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
A lot of them might be too scared to use the Arndale one in case they are mugged.

actualy since this has been brought up

the arndale center only has cameras on one floor , i forget which one it is now but an employee inside told me

so just leave your car where the employees do

i think ive mentioned this before :o

WillowTheWhisp 21-02-2006 23:49

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
A lot of them might be too scared to use the Arndale one in case they are mugged.

I was mugged on there once but we still park there. I'm just more wary now and I'll hit em wiv me 'andbag if they try it again!

WillowTheWhisp 21-02-2006 23:52

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Originally Posted by chav1

the arndale center only has cameras on one floor , i forget which one it is now but an employee inside told me


Now that IS interesting because when I was mugged we asked if we could see the video from the security camera but they waffled about giving it to the police and for some reason although the police knew who it was they couldn't do anything about arresting him.

I doubt now that there ever was any flippin video.
:mad:

harwood red 21-02-2006 23:53

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
I was mugged on there once but we still park there. I'm just more wary now and I'll hit em wiv me 'andbag if they try it again!

I hope you carry a bowling ball in your handbag then willow :D

Mancie 22-02-2006 00:22

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You trying to put the guy out of work?

SPUGGIE J 22-02-2006 00:24

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Originally Posted by Mancie
You trying to put the guy out of work?

Which guy???

Mancie 22-02-2006 00:26

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Which guy???

.......... the guy that puts the cones out

SPUGGIE J 22-02-2006 00:28

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Originally Posted by Mancie
.......... the guy that puts the cones out

Thought his job was to stop the kids nicking them.

Neil 22-02-2006 05:39

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I partly agree with residents parking. I do think that there should be no charge to the resisidents. Some people have big problems caused by inconsiderate road users. On the streets around Ossy Mills would be a good example of where it would probably be ok. Also around the Civic Theatre is probably a problem. I think more should be done about people parking in stupid places. On a Sunday people park in really stupid place obstructing both the road and the footpath outside the Church near me. Anyone causing an obstuction should be ticketed. Why are Parkwise only really interested in the town centre? It is rare to see them where they are really needed.

chav1 22-02-2006 16:20

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there are few traffic cops to enforce traffic laws and what little traffic police there are couldnt give a crap about doing their jobs either

bottom of willows lane - red bmw every morning parks up on double yellow lines at thre traffic lights causing an obstruction and gets out of the car to go in his shop leaving the car there abandoned . the traffic police drive past and dont even bat an eye lid

loads of cars driving around with various faults like headlights out etc - yet again i have seen the traffic police do sod all about it

car reverses of a side street onto a main road right infront of a traffic cop - again sod all done about it

i have seen many examples of the traffic police not giving a crap but this is my favourite

i was driving from great harwood to accrington and was followed from great harwood town center to the quick fit in accrington while all the way not wearing my seatbelt and making no effort to hide the fact yet i wasnt even pulled up , infact i have never worn a seatbelt since i started learning to drive and have never been questioned as to why by the police

granted i have a seatbelt exemption certificate as i can not wear one for medical reasons but the police dont know this until i produce my certificate

it makes me wonder why should i drive around and find suitable parking or even bother to keep my car in a road worthy condition when others obvioulsy dont see fit too and get away with it because the police simply cant be arsed

also anyone deliberatly jumping infront of cars to make them slam on the brakes should be slung in jail for the night as i have seen that go unpunished as well but thats another topic

jambutty 24-02-2006 18:03

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Sadly chav1 your road tax does not give you any parking rights on the public highway except in designated areas. In fact to the letter of the law you can be booked for obstruction if you park in front of your own house.

There are two other points that I discovered recently. A Blue Badge holder cannot park in on road Residential Parking areas. They will be ticketed if they do.

Let me also destroy the myth about on road disabled parking places marked out at the request of the nearby householder. ANYONE CAN PARK IN THE BAY AND WILL NOT BE PROSECUTED FOR DOING SO – unless there is a plaque on an adjacent wall or lamppost qualifying the terms of parking. Even if there were a plaque displayed the bay would not be for the exclusive use of the nearby resident. Any disabled badge holder can park in that bay.

I found out a couple of weeks ago when some (put your own expletives in here) parked in the disabled bay in front of my flat leaving me with nowhere to park at that time. I should explain I live right across the road from a high school and three times a day during term time my road is party to literally dozens and dozens and dozens of cars dropping off and collecting their kids. Chuck in a handful of busses and coaches and you will realise that not only is there barely room for a car to progress past, the air is foul with exhaust fumes that do not really dissipate until the next influx. I was returning from a dental appointment otherwise I would have timed my departure and return to avoid the daily melee.

People will park anywhere they can, given the chance and care not a hoot who it inconveniences. Being a regular occurrence I tried to get the police to come and book the **!!**!!** but they informed me of what I have written above.

Neil 25-02-2006 08:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chav1
i think its because people dont have those stupid parking disks that are never available when u need one

You can park on the top floor all day with no disc (might be top 2 floors I can't remember). It is the same distance to the lift on all floors so whats the problem.

Whats more stupid about that car park is that the disabled spaces are no wider than the normal ones. I feel sorry for anyone with a wheelchair trying to use that car park.

chav1 25-02-2006 10:24

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Originally Posted by Neil
You can park on the top floor all day with no disc (might be top 2 floors I can't remember). It is the same distance to the lift on all floors so whats the problem.

i dont like heights :p

Neil 25-02-2006 10:27

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Originally Posted by chav1
i dont like heights :p

More like you find if too difficult getting to the top without hitting the walls :eek:

SPUGGIE J 25-02-2006 16:48

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Originally Posted by Neil
More like you find if too difficult getting to the top without hitting the walls :eek:

Thought he would be climbing the walls.

Sparkologist 25-02-2006 17:27

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I thought that the Disc Parking Scheme in the Arndale carpark was being wound up, due to lack of adequate on-going funding for it.

ShortStuff 25-02-2006 17:44

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Unfortunately you will always have inconsiderate people that will park anywhere whether they cause an obstruction or not. I think that Ossy Mill does a very good job of trying to keep residents and shoppers happy regarding the parking issue, and considering the amount of money & jobs its brought to the area in recent years I think it is a small price to pay.

chav1 26-02-2006 09:01

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Originally Posted by Neil
More like you find if too difficult getting to the top without hitting the walls :eek:

you try getting to the top of the arndale carpark after 8 pints and see how well you do :p

ps:

using the lift is cheating although you as far as i know the only car that will fit into the lift is a yaris :)

SPUGGIE J 26-02-2006 11:19

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Originally Posted by chav1
you try getting to the top of the arndale carpark after 8 pints and see how well you do :p

ps:

using the lift is cheating although you as far as i know the only car that will fit into the lift is a yaris :)

Is this from personal experience chav????

chav1 26-02-2006 16:12

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yes 8 pints of milk sends me off my rocker and i tried parkinga yaris in the arndale center lifts

the arndale center tried to press charges but didnthave leg to stand on because i was displaying a green parking disk in accordance to their rules :D


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