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According to the paper yesterday, ICM conducted a poll which suggested that 4 out of 10 muslims would wish to see Sharia Law in this country.
It also showed that 6 out of 10 muslims thought that white britons were more hostile to the islamic cause.

I don't know how many people were polled....or in what area of the country the poll took place, but the findings are quite worrying.

My feeling is that if these people wish to be ruled by Sharia Law, then why don't they migrate to where this law is held in high esteem?

What do you think?

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From the Independent

Fanatics tell Muslim singer: We'll kill you
Deeyah is forced to hire bodyguards for UK tour after death threats
from religious extremists
By Wersha Bharadwa
Published: 19 February 2006
A Muslim pop singer has been forced to hire bodyguards to protect her
during a visit to Britain next month after she received a string of
death threats from religious extremists.

US-based Deeyah is due in London next month to promote a new single
and video, released tomorrow. But the track "What Will It Be?" has
already outraged hardline Islamists here as it promotes women's
rights.

Her performances with a clutch of male dancers and revealing outfits
have also deeply offended many Muslims. In one scene in her latest
video, the singer drops a burqa covering her body to reveal a bikini.

That has attracted vitriol from some quarters. The 28-year-old singer
claims that in the past she has been spat upon in the street and told
that her family would be in danger if she did not tone down her work.
The situation is now so bad that Deeyah feels she cannot visit
Britain without protection. "I can no longer walk around without
specially assigned bodyguards," she told The Independent on
Sunday. "I would be lying if I said abuse from religious fanatics
didn't upset or scare me."

Deeyah was originally a singer of classical Indian music and lived in
the UK until just over a year ago. But she claims to have been
shocked by the reaction to her shift to pop music accompanied by
raunchy videos.

"I had no plan to court controversy or anger people in my community.
I wanted to make people think and confront my own fears as a Muslim
woman," she said. Soon, though, she was dubbed "the Muslim Madonna".
And then came hate mail and abuse from extremists.

"I have been on the verge of a breakdown. Middle-aged men have spat
at me in the street and I have had people phone me and tell me they
were going to cut me up into pieces. I became this figure of hate
simply because of what I do and wear."

Despite moving to Atlanta last year, a UK-based campaign against her
has continued. Her website has been plagued by aggressive bloggers,
and threatening calls pour in. Despite this, Deeyah, who was born in
Norway of Iranian and Pakistani parentage, remains keen to return to
Britain. "I miss London," she said, adding that she wanted to inspire
British Muslim women.

"I receive letters and emails from women saying I am doing a good
job. Putting my life at risk no longer bothers me. That so many
women - Muslim women included - are abused by people of their own religion "

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Agree with you there Margaret, if they don't like this country then they can always leave :engsmil:

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I read about the same poll in this week's Sunday papers.

This is what so frightening to a lot of people. A majority of people have been tolerant about immigration, and the diffeing immigrants that have been coming to Britain for centuries. Jews for example have lived here, observerved their own faith, but have intergrated into society.

We are now in the position were we have a large group of people who are trying to change the very nature of our society, to suit there own needs and demand.

I will fight to my last breath to keep Britain as it is. Partly because under Sharia law my life would be in danger, and I would face execution.

If British Muslims want to live under these strict religious laws they should move to a country that already has them, not try to force them on a free people that welcomed them into their country.

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i agree with what has been said so far, & it brings to my mind the saying " let him as is without sin cast the first stone" we all have a secret no matter how trivial...if other forms of religion can live & work in this country as garinda has said why can't they .

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Sooner or, and I hope not later, we must start to recliam this country. It is slipping out our hands because of a lilly livered government.

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Instead of bending over backwards, afraid of loosing the Muslim vote, our Government should be fighting to keep our country British. Jack Straw is one of the biggest offenders of doing this.

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I would like to say that I have absolutely no objection to anyone, no matter which country they come from, or what religion they follow coming to live and work in the UK.

I do feel that when people move here there are certain rules and customs which must be observed. The UK is a predominantly Christian country, for a lot of us God is part of our lives. We are free to celebrate Christmas and Easter and go to church whenever we like. If you are offended by seeing a cross or by any of our Christian celebrations then stay away.
The language in the UK is not Chinese, German, Bengali, Spanish or Urdu, it is English. Our laws and freedoms have been hard won in some cases and our people are friendly and prepared to live and let live.

Anyone who has a problem with this should exercise another of our freedoms and ****** off to lands where the laws, religion and language reflect what they are seeking...

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I think that covers everthing, totally agree with you. :)

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Amen to that. I also totally agree with Lettie. Since I have lived in Canada for over 30 years every time I come back "home" for a visit I find that "we"
are the second class citizens. There seems to be two laws out there. Thats my view anyway.

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I have looked into this further and the survey was done on 500 people, though I don't know where it was carried out. I find these survey results very worrying.....given the increasing muslim population and these who were surveyed are supposed to be 'moderates'......imagine the results if they had been fundametanlists.

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I saw the results of the survey in last Sunday's Observer, it reported that the poll had been conducted by the Sunday Telegraph.

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I totally agree with everything posted but instead of whingeing and feeling hard done to having our nationality slowly stripped away away from us, what would be a logical solution?

Again totally agree but it's votes that dictate who runs this country and whenever a Political Party tries to address the issue they're branded as rascists. Yes, some of the far right wing Parties propaganda is as frightening as the fundamentalists themselves, but why is there no Party that stands as a happy medium in between, public opinion on this issue must be screaming in their ears!!

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OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

:engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil:

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Another interesting fact thrown up by this poll showed that 20% of the people polled had sympathies with the motives of the London Bombers.

So how do you get these people who have been offered a free country to reside in......health care and benefits, for which some have never contributed...to integrate and become part of the fabric of society?
Talk about biting the hand that feeds.

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It never fails to impress me how often Britain put’s out its hand only get a good rodgering for it.

Afghanistan
Iraq
Palestine.
Malaya
Kenya
Rhodesia

And many more coming in through a local port so you can now be rodgered in the comfort of your own home. Enjoy.

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i have tried to reply to this thread but for some reason it keeps saying that im not logged in has this anything to do with my opinion?:)
please could you let me know.

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well it seems you managed it ;)

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does not say what i wanted to say though:) but i totally agree with all the other opinions:)

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Those that want Sharia Law might only follow it when it suits. As it stands it has too many sections that would be classed as illegal here and those that have followed it to the letter have been jailed.

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Of course this is worrying to anyone who is not muslim.. but to a TRUE muslim this is ideal.. if we remember what we were told at school the, burning of protestants, christians feed to lions , the slaughter of thousands of muslims in the crusades, burning whitches that never existed
its like going back 500 years... its all good fun for the extremist of any religion

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No Mancie, we brunt the Catholics, fortunately many survived, unfortunately so did the ****** who I married. That aside whatever happened in our histories is just that history. In the crusades Muslims had as many victories as the Christians and won out in the end. Regrettably none of us ever learnt the lessons born of futile religious wars and still haven’t.

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jedi is a new religeion trying to get recognition and if a few more thousand people put it on the census it will have to be recognised as a legitimate religeion even though it is basicly a wind up

however it would be interesting to see how terrorists would handle an opposing faith that is capable of mind control and has lightsabers to hand :D

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Nevermind Christianity muslims sole intentions violent or otherwise are for Islam to be the dominant force throughout the world.We are losing our nationality.My reply is FUC&O££Bac2P@C15TAN~~~~*****************77773££$$$ $$%%^^Rivers of Blood...God Bless You Enoch

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you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge willow!!!!!

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No he didn't. It's one of the most often misquoted speeches of all time.

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If I try really hard I even amaze myself at times. :D

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http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Sharia


Disobedient wives beware.

Two strikes and you're out.

Out cold on the floor.

(See Domestic Justice.)

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Bit to heavy to read at the moment but can see a few advatages

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................ Bloody Mary the then queen of england and her regime burnt around 300 protestant (protesters against the then corrupt church of rome).. oh dear here we go again

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If The "Rivers Of Blood" speech doesn't mention Rivers of Blood then why is it misquoted?What a person said nearly 40 years ago has come true and you sad people have not got the balls to admit that these ppl are making a mockery of our country.I have been called a white B*stard on several occasions in my home town,they have no regard for OUR law.They can't even drive a car without having a phone stuck to their earhole.(and then they don't know how to use indicators).All of you do good'ers will say i'm a nasty person for speaking my mind.THEY BELIEVE THERE IS ONLY ONE RELIGION>>>ISLAM.We are all fools to them.So if they want sharia law i'd gladly stone them and chop their hands off if they misbehaved.

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Lol, the more I read it the more I could see it appealing to some of the more conservative men on here.:D

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Certain people would do it today up hear if they could get away with it

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I think you are over reacting.. rivers of blood?

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It was an often misquoted speech by Enoch Powell in the late 60's regarding immigration.

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Here you go Mancie, don't sweat about it, its old hat and from another time. The main problem with the "Rivers of Blood" speech is that every interested party as twisted it to meet their own ends. In politics nothing remains pure in thought or deed.

http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/powell_press.htm

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Oh sorry I must be abit thick!

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You won't be on your own..............:D :D :D

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Just a little thread wander. :(

I had to go to Enoch Powell's house to make him some new shirts. Growing up in the seventies, after his misquoted speech was pounced upon by the far right at that time, I was expecting a cross between Adolf Hitler and Atilla the Hun.

In fact he was a very polite, charming, kindly, interesting old man, with a very sharp brain.

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I know I'm not on my own when thick bods like you are around.. gives me comfort in your madness.com

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Madness is just another world we share with only very special people. If you think I need help read on and let your eyes be opened……..:) :p :D

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....As if supporting accy stanley is not a form of madness!! you did not support them 10yrs ago.. and now you have the balls to say I'm mislead in my views ... ******

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You can't put abusive comments in post, plus you are thread wandering.

Not being funny, but read rules and you'll have a good time.

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threads in the wrong place?? is this free speech .. or sharia rules?

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you supported accy stanley for 36 years?

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sorry lette have we got short memories? whats happened to the golly wog? what happened when a local school was told not to say happy christmas, what happened to the muslim law of not gambling, what happened to the muslim law no drinking alchohol? this subject and thread is bull crap!:engsmil:NO ONE PERSON ARE GROUP CAN TURN ROUND EITHER POLITICAL OR RELIGOUS AND SAY THEY ARE HONEST TO THE WORD!

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You don’t have to be in the town or at the ground to be a supporter. I was school boy in Accrington 36 years ago and I supported Stanley, when I was ridiculed by my Blackburn and Burnley supporting school mates I give up football all together rather than support a team I had no interest or belief in. In that at least I can say I stayed true to my convictions. As an accy exile I have followed their progress over the years and recently renewed my association with the team and the town itself.

What this as to do with you taking exception to me or my post’s I have little idea, for whatever reason you have seen fit to respond in the manner you have fine, your not the first person I will have p****d off and you won’t be the last. Your opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s is in my book, take that however you wish.

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hehehe funny ppl

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tell em mani , there is two sides to every page!

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*lol*

i've decided to stop tryna preach to the blind. its useless.

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I'm so glad you approve of the thread staggers.

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RIVERS OF BLOOD SPEECH BIRMINGHAM POST APRIL 22ND 1968 FOLLOW THIS LINK TO VIEW http://www.sterlingtimes.org/powell_speech.doc

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granada news has reported that a young asian lad from burnley today was given a 12 week prison sentence for mowing down and killing a 3 year old little girl, he had stolen the car, he had no licence and he drove off from the scene leaving the little girl dead in the road, he did however give himself in to the police later. after the little girl was buried her grave was desicrated, teddys and mementos were stolen, The person who wrecked her grave was sent to prison for 12 months.I would bet that the young asian lad was jumping for joy at the 12 week sentence he received....
i would also bet that he would'nt have prefered sharia law to deal with him or we could have strung him up!! he will only serve 6 weeks at most, i cant imagine what the family of that little girl are feeling at this moment its unbearable and its ridiculas.:engsmil:

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This story made national news this morning. We saw it here in Cambridgeshire. I just have to ask this question. What do you think would have happened if this had been a white guy?

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i have just ****ed my sides laughin at the stupid racism of some ppl

esp phylum sorry dude i have to say it

the fact he got 12 weeks was cuz he didnt stop at the accident thus by the cps cudnt charge him with anythign related to the actual incident even though he admitted it.

its british law *not shariah* that says that the most he can b charged with is 12 weeks as he failed to stop at the scene of an accident

moral of the story? if u kill someone whilst driving stop 1 mile down the road - u'll b let off with just a 12 week sentance...

man phylum u seriously need to get some education... livin in cambridge sure hasnt made u any cleverer

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He was sentenced to four weeks for the handling charge and 12 weeks each for the fail to stop and fail to report charges, to run concurrently. He was also banned from driving for five years.

Careless driving is an offence which does not carry a jail sentence.


from the bbc website...

now i wonder what would have happend if i wasnt green?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4445278.stm

now i wonder what if the two 18 yr guys were asians what would've happened?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/4325766.stm

and this fella too...

some people are just so ignorant

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There are very many incidences of crimes where the punishment doesn't seem to reflect the damage done to the victim......and criminals come in all colours and races......this really isn't what this thread is about.

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I suppose in both cases Mani, they will get similar sentences to the chap in Burnley...because that is the law, as you pointed out in an earlier post.
Ethnicity will not come into it.....and rightly so!

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l have an education thanks, that's where I learned to spell correctly, well, most of the time. Unfortunately I did not study law, silly me!

There are other things that should have been considered here. He was driving a stolen car, which probably meant he stole it. He had no tax, no insurance and killed child.

Racism? I merely suggested that the law is swayed so as not to upset certain groups.

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HERE HERE........


lets not upset the minority in OUR country.....wheather he stopped or not he killed someone and should be punished for it...


english law needs a severe kick up the jacksie :D

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Dosnt matter what law it is it will always look like it has failed to someone.

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its not even about studying law - its about readin the story in detail as to why the judge only gave him such a little sentace...

outrage is when a judge gave those two ppl sexually abused that baby and only got somethign like 2 months

last time i think the law was swayed to not upset a group was when the nick griffin case went to a retrial

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it actually horrifies me to be totally honest the reaction of some ppl at some of the stories on accy web...

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edited.................

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I suggest you are sexist and ageist.

I also suggest that double standards are rife in this country.

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ime a bit confused by somthing posted in this thread and i feel i need to speak up on the matter..

am i to understand that if i hit somone with my car and kill them then drive off i will get in less trouble than if i actualy stop and phone an ambulance for them...?

12 weeks in prison with the usual 50% off for good behaviour would be worth it to get rid of somone you realy realy didnt like ;)

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chav

totally true

now... where's that peter britcliffe...

and that isnt ageist and sexist thats calling as u see it...

arent profiles wonderful?

and u r one to talk about double standards

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exactly..thats what i thought too...there would have been a lot more of a stink....:engsmil:

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Because people often put their own interpretation on what they hear or read.

Bogey never said, “Play it again Sam” and Captain Kirk never said “Beam me up Scottie” yet people still make the quotes.

At last people are beginning to wake up the fact that, like a creeping cancer, Islam is slowly taking over and will continue to do so until we stand up against it. If we are going to wait until the government in office takes a stand it will be too late.

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You see, one rule for one, one for the other...........

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hmmm
i been reading up on this lately,and find it disturbing and barbaric
go here for info
http://www.knowislam.info/drupal/

its about those who left their faith and saw the light,

imagine,
you will be stoned to death for adultary,or even having sex while unmarried,

"wake UP,,this is a modern world " I SAY

make up your own mind but its worth a read

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Trevor Phillips, (the head of the Commission for Racial Equality) has said that those muslims who want Sharia Law should move to where Sharia law prevails......he also states that the aims to become multicultural have failed both the ethnic and the indigent population.

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Wont be long before Mr Phillips is seen as un PC and a stirer of trouble. If those who said they wanted Shiria Law would leave or just thought it would be better as opposed to "bring it on."

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Thought this thread should also have this link. It's what most of us agree with I think.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4752804.stm

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At last....someone talking sense...and someone who is at the head of the Commission for Racial Equality.....so surely HE can't be condemned as racist.
There is a very interesting letter in the Mail today......from an Asian man and he is saying much the same.......I would transcribe the letter if anyone wants to read it.....even though I am not keen on articles lifted from the newspaper.

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A minority of hardliners will slam him for it and expect him to be removed from his post.

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Actually, as yet, not a peep. I have been waiting and watching!

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Spuggie, this man has held.....AND proclaimed these views in the past and he is still in this lofty position......maybe because he himself is from an ethnic background. You can hardly be accused of racism when you are black and the head of an organisation that was set up to ensure racial harmony/equality.

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Trevor Phillips is excising his right of freedom of Speech, when he is prohibited from doing so start worring…….

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Spot on Doug...!

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I found it very refreshing to read. It reflects my feeilings exactly. Incidently, half my family is Jamacian.

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I should of explained my view on the prrior post and accept it was a bit of a goofer. Not arguing the fact of his position and his views its just some will see him as a threat in a sense because he believes in there being no racism religous disharmany etc in the UK in this day and age. If people followed his advice things would be easier but unfortunately a minority from all sides find it handy not to have harmony.

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No Spuggie.......I am sure that he is aware that the tinkering about with laws and values has been harmful to both the ethnic minorities AND to the indigent population. And now what he is saying is that we should have taken the common sense approach....kept our 'Christmas' because this does not offend muslims........he accepts that as part of the concept of freedom of expression then there maybe some offense caused to some ethnic minorities and what he is saying is, this is the price you have to pay for living in this society. He believes that our aim to introduce a multicultural society has been wrong from the start and that far from eradicating racism it may actually have caused some racism.

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I would hate to think we are living in a society that dispite all that is said against racism that it might be passively encouraged.

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I am absolutely certain that the Race Relations laws have promoted more racism than they have prevented. In making so many minor acts of supposed "intollerance" an offence the end product has been resentment and bitterness.

We had a big influx of immigrants in the 60s, mainly from Asia and the West Indies, and it was tough for them when they arrived because people were suspicious and had preconceived ideas about them. Not a nice situation to be in, true, but those who wanted to be here to make a contribution to Britain and become truly British would have survived and thrived just as other immigrant populations had done before. As things are, the law has made a division between cultures and promoted bad relationships in many ways. We are now reaping what we have sown.