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garinda 09-03-2006 13:42

Hidden identity.
 
Whilst on another of our driving trips the other day, my accomplice and I was amazed at something we saw whilst waiting at the traffic lights at Guide.

We saw a girl wearing a full hijab and a full face burja, with just the eyes showing, in a driving school car.

There is nothing wrong with this per se, but if you failed your test the first time, what is to stop you sending your old granny to take the next test for you, or even your grandad?

chav1 09-03-2006 14:13

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imagine what embaressing situations could arise if out dogging :eek:

garinda 09-03-2006 14:14

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Originally Posted by chav1
imagine what embaressing situations could arise if out dogging :eek:

But we'd only been to the aquarium at Bolton.:eek:

chav1 09-03-2006 14:15

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But we'd only been to the aquarium at Bolton.:eek:

yep we only went fishing :D

Tealeaf 09-03-2006 14:16

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Originally Posted by chav1
imagine what embaressing situations could arise if out dogging :eek:

Aye, but for them that like surprises this is perfect gear. I wonder if we'll ever get the chance to see VIrginia Monologues performed in Burka & Hajib?

BLACKBURN RAVER 09-03-2006 15:45

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Originally Posted by garinda
We saw a girl wearing a full hijab and a full face burja, with just the eyes showing, in a driving school car.

There is nothing wrong with this per se, but if you failed your test the first time, what is to stop you sending your old granny to take the next test for you, or even your grandad?

they've been doing that for years rindy

mani 09-03-2006 16:01

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oh i forgot to mention

i charge 150 for every driving test passed...

garinda 09-03-2006 16:22

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Originally Posted by mani
oh i forgot to mention

i charge 150 for every driving test passed...

Come on, it just made me smile.....then think about the situation. With passport photographs now demanding that you can't smile and that you have to show both ears, and can't smile, how easy is it for these women to manage?

SPUGGIE J 09-03-2006 17:57

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Dont give the a driving licence if they are not showing their faces. As it is classed as a form of ID how can they have a photo taken if not allowed to show their face in public. Seriously though if a picture is required then there must be someone who specialises in this kind of work.

grannyclaret 09-03-2006 20:40

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i am gobsmacked......

SPUGGIE J 09-03-2006 20:40

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i am gobsmacked......

with wich bit granny???

grannyclaret 09-03-2006 20:46

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:D :D :D :D :D the fact that you only nead to show your eyes,,,,,you can get up to all sorts of mischief......
seriously though .could you REALY take a driving test like that?:confused:

SPUGGIE J 09-03-2006 21:39

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How do they get on in banks were you have to be able to see their faces? It would be no diferent than having a skid lid on.

garinda 09-03-2006 22:39

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
How do they get on in banks were you have to be able to see their faces?

I don't know.
I struggle convincing people that my signature is actually my signature, when I pay by a credit/debit card, because of the Parkinson's, and the resulting shakey scrawl.

SPUGGIE J 09-03-2006 23:21

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You should be allowed special dispensation. What has the bank manger said?

cashman 10-03-2006 00:12

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Originally Posted by mani
oh i forgot to mention

i charge 150 for every driving test passed...

there goes inflation again mani lol i used to work with a guy in the 70s who used to charge £50, and thats not bull.

pendy 14-03-2006 11:23

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What worries me as much as anything is, how clear is your vision when you're wrapped round like that? I do have some objections to this form of dress - if I go to Saudi, I have to conform to strict dress codes, so I can't wear what I want. Also in Saudi, women are not allowed to drive. At all. I do think that there is a case for insisting, if women want to be able to drive, they should conform to the UK dress code and leave the rest at home. Who was is said that you can't have everything?

WillowTheWhisp 14-03-2006 13:22

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Two very interesting points there from Rindy and Pendy. How can you identify someone in a photograph if only their eyes are showing? Do they have passport photos with only their eyes showing? Also I know that if I have my hood up on my coat when the weather is grim then I am more limited in what I can see and that's not as covering so can they really drive safely? Apart from restricted vision does it not also restrict their movement?

You know the funny thing when we were in Tunisia we only saw one woman dressed in the full covering outfit and she was a British tourist!

garinda 14-03-2006 15:57

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I posted this originally not to stir up anti-Islamic feeling, but mainly because it looked so funny as she came round the corner towards us, specs peering through the slit of the headdress, face pressed towards the windsceen. It was only after that I thought about how women that wear full Muslim dress prove their identity for offical needs like passports or driving tests.

grannyclaret 14-03-2006 16:09

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thing is they are no better than hoodies.... they are just as able to commit crime ,,,,,NOT THAT I AM SAYING THEY WOULD.. just that they COULD...and be unditectable

pendy 14-03-2006 16:26

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Don't get me wrong, I have no objection to people wearing what they want, within reason. It is when such clothing interferes with vision or with movement that it becomes a problem.

There is also the question of identification - get caught by a speed camera - who is driving? Even worse, cause an accident, drive away - who can identify who was behind the wheel? I rather doubt whether it is strictly legal to drive wearing the full monty.

SPUGGIE J 14-03-2006 20:00

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Note to self STAY OFF THE ROADS IN ACCY getting a bit too dangerous. :)

West Ender 15-03-2006 15:44

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I agree with Pendy, there's a safety issue here. I also wonder how the different cultural aspect is reconciled - drive a car freely around the country but cover your face while you do so. Maybe it's just me but I find it illogical.


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