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During the course of my daily employment I encounter many mid teen to early 20's youngsters(both Asian and white)Recently I had the misfortune to hear two Asian youths referring to me as a white nigger,thinking I'd misheared them I ignored the comment,then found it was repeated as they later passed me.Unsure of how to address this I took the easy option and ignored it.
Regrettably this has since happened to another member of staff,this time being referred to as a white nigger bastard.
I have since learned that this is a term that Asian youth use to signify the lowest of the low.
My question dear reader is, does this amount to racial abuse?
Has anyone else ever had this term used against them?
Finally what would response would you have given?
There is a University thesis in this somewhere.:rolleyes:

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Yes its racial abuse. If you said that to them you would be hauled over the coals. They enjoy tagging others but hate it themselves. Was once told by someone that for all the claims that the are racialy abused they can be more racist than us. Wether you would get anywere I am not sure. I cant claim people are racist when I am called an English Fenian Bsrd up here yet if the colour of my skin was different I could.

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Just think what would happen to you if you called them a ni**er or something like it - take it as far as you can, they would

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i assume they are there for help so simply put up a sighn like in hospitals etc saying abusive language , violence and racism will not be tollerated and they will be asked to leave or the police will be called

start throwing them out on their ear and they may learn

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Thanks chav,if only life was so easy!

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it is most definitely racial abuse and you should not tolerate it. Report it to your line manager and take it through the proper channels. They would soon report you if it had been directed towards them.

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Elvis Costello sang the words 'one less white nigger' in Oliver's Army, recorded in 1979, so it's a not new phrase.

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Thanks garinda,perhaps not a new phrase;but it was a new one to me!
Perhaps it's my sheltered life.

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Whether it is a new phrase or not.....it is calculated to offend and therefore it is abuse.

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I agree Margaret,I may have missed my chance this time around,but I learn the other member of staff had witnesses both white and Asian.So it will be pursued.I take no pleasure in reporting this but there is an imbalance somewhere along the way.
It's time to address this topic.

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There is never any pleasure in it Lampman but if they are not stop and discouraged then they will just carry on. Next time it could be some little kid or a lady. Dont give up on it they wouldnt. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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The word nigger was originally a pronunciation of "negro", hispanic for "black", in the accents of the Southern states of America. While obviously racially motivated, as defining a person by his colour, it wasn't any more abusive than the whole system of which it was a part, i.e. slavery.

So, for a start, these cretins were obviously ignorant of the fact they were calling you a white black-man. That the word has now become racially offensive and is only used offensively is not in doubt. Its modern connotation is only used as an insult so, yes, make a complaint and don't back down. We must not tolerate double standards and the charge of racial abuse must apply to all.

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Nigger, a word that was seen as an abusive word, was reclaimed by militant blacks in the USA in the 80's, as an empowering word. The idea being that if you use the word yourself it takes away the intended hurt that was meant.


Of course, unlike the saying, words do hurt as much as sticks and stones, but it's the context in which they are used which make them more hurtful.

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i was once pulled over the coals in a wool shop ,for asking for nigger brown wool....at that time i was unaware that it was banned from being a colour.. i was told to ask for chocolate brown in future...

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Just wondered if there are any abusive words to describe a white person, don't mean white ***** etc., (go for it Lampman) just one similar to this word. Sure there are, but none spring to mind, only whitey .. but this not too bad.

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ive got some american black friends and they are quite happy to call each other and be called NIGGA but if you call them NIGGER they will pop a cap in your ass lol

seriuosly nigga is acceptable black nigga , white nigga etc and thats from a bunch of niggas's from the usa but even playstation games like grand theft auto use the phrase nigga so it must be true lol

any way ime off to get me some nigga brown wool :D

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How some people have the power to 'ignore' is beyond me. I think its really big of you to ignore the comment. I would of most probably replied with something on the terms of "f*ck off you black Ba*tard".

Im begginging to think that BNP is an easy option. (But they dont like disabled and thats uncalled for) But yeah... A loads of 'Asian' youths around the age of 15 beat up my best friends little brother who is 11 the other day. So im going to wait outside of the Hollins gates some time this next week, follow them home and have their windows put through =)

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Ive been called a White Nappy before lol.
But I suppose to be REALLY racist, you could reply with 'dirty' nappy. Asin to attack them for being black.

But I didnt. Judging people by their colour is insane. God see's no colour. thats what I say.

:) :confused: :mad: :D :o :( These lil peeps are all different colours =)

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the problem we've got is that too many of us choose to ignore this sort of abuse for fear of appearing racist, its absolute rubbish, if the shoe had been on the other foot and you had called them dirty p-ki bastards, your feet wouldn't have touched the floor, you'd have been reported before you could blink. my best friend is black and prefers to be refered to that way, whats the problem she has respect for others and has no problem whatsoever with her colour or anybody elses for that matter, its all about having some respect for others, what planet are these people from!! it makes my blood boil. Report them every time they have the nerve to insult you, its because they get away with it that they carry on doing it.

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Report them. Then chuck a bucket of white paint over them. They will think twice about calling you white next time. Hmmmm thats not such a bad idea actually.... *thinks*....

But anyway on a more serious note, when I went to Rhyddings School, it was the same. All the 'black' students could say what they liked and do what they liked to us, but the ONE moment a white student did something or said something to a black student, it was RACIST RACIST RACIST!!!! Absolutely pathetic.

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Well a lot of advice to ponder there.Having had a think about it,this is how I see it.
If a white youth has insulted me and I don't report it.I can not then report an Asian youth for a similar 'offence' as this in itself could be construed to be a racist action.
What a muddled world we live in!

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A stand has to be made sometime and regardless of how it feels you have to do it. If you dont it could get worse and you will proberly feel guilty about not trying to stop it when you had the chance.

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Having said all this my grandaughter has just been in and told me a tale of what happened at school this week. They have employed, whom she describes as a lovely supply teacher, he is Asian and four boys have been hurtling abuse at him all week. Making fun of his name, asking him if he drives taxis at night, etc. Obviously she is white, but nonetheless reported these remarks to the head as she thought the teacher did not deserve such an onslaught. All he was doing was asking them to keep their thoughts to themselves. So occasionally we have to support the other colours sometimes and all cases of abuse naturally.

I also asked her what names was she called from the Asians and came up with two words which were snowflake and milk-bottle.
I didn't think this unkind, however, she pointed out that it does depend on how it is thrown at you. Didn't like it when they called her snowflake trash.
Mind you, with her Goth make-up does look like a milk-bottle sometime. :rolleyes:

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Lampman....if white youths abused you it would be abuse with NO racial element(still abhorrent - but you can tackle it yourself)......with Asian or ethnic youths the abuse IS racist and you cannot tackle it yourself for fear of being labelled racist yourself......so it DOES need action.

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Of course it is abuse.. can't understand why you are confused???

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I doubt there were many "black" students at Rhyddings School or any other School in the Accrington area.. I assume you mean asian students?

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Ok just read your post again and came to the conclusion you are either thick or you are posting to stir things up! You were verbly abused yet you have to seek advice from a forum full of divvy's?

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Did I say 'I' was abused? No. I didnt think so. So maybe you should read it... again? For a third time? Who knows... third time lucky.

And yes. I mean 'asian' students. Who in this day & age, are usually reffered to as 'black'. I dont know what you would like to call it. But If you wanted to be soooooo picky, I suppose myself and a lot of others are not white? Maybe a mild hint of peach?

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Hmmmm, yet you chose to join this forum Driller???????? You must have recognised your own kind in here somewhere...:D

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I seem to remember that the Commission for Racial Equality pronounced some time ago that black and asian people cannot be racist towards whites - any comments they make are NOT racist, which is total tripe.

Report it, and stick to your guns. There is one law for everyone.

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Blinkered I would say. Beides is this their way of keeping things in the spotlight by make out that there are no asian or african desent people that are racist?