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Alec came home from school yesterday after having done his library duties and a meeting for his Duke of Edinburgh in tears. After coaxing what was wrong with it turned out that as he had left the school gates 2 asians and a white boy had set upton him, pinning him down to the floor and using his head as a football.
I immediately phoned the police, this was 4.50pm. Bu 9pm i was fed-up of waiting for them to arrive, so i drove Alec to Greenbank police station at Whitebirk. I had to talk to an operator through a yellow phone. I was not allowed into the police station and was promptly told to go home and wait for an Accrington officer to deal with it.
It was 11.30pm last night before they turned up, which in my opinion was too late for doing statements as they can go on for over an hour. The police officer will have to come back tonight at 8pm after parents evening, thats if he is not called away again to other incidents.
I have stressed in no certain terms that seeing as Alec recognises these lads as being fellow pupils at Moorhead and that he can name one of them that i will be prosecuting ! and no softly, softly approach either.

Who else thinks that turning up at 11.30pm to do a statement is a little late.

Also found out today that 2 asian lads and 1 white lad attacked another fellow pupil in school yesterday and the teachers didnt even have the powers to stop them. I am hoping that these are the same 3 that attacked my son.

Alec is fine, a few lumps and bruises. Luckily a bloke was walking by, when they saw him they did a runner.

Chrissie

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Sorry to read about your son, but it's absolutly disgusting having to wait that length of time. A couple of years ago the same thing happened to my son on his way home from school, must admit though the police did turn up within the hour. But getting anything done was a differant matter. Reason being that i had to deal with the same policeman who happened to be going on holiday a couple of days after the attack, and as it was on a Friday evening they couldn't do a lot till the Monday. I made such a stink, that eventually an inspector came to see us, and within hours they'd pulled a couple of lads in. Be as tough as you can be on these lads (within the law of course), it is (hopefully) one of the few things that might scare them and stop them doing it again. GOOD LUCK.

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If the shoe had been on the other foot they would have come round for statements faster than a grizzly bear to the salmon run.

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That's disgusting and you have my sympathy.

The treatment that you received from the Police is terrible and the fact that the school could do little about what was going on just outside their gates is apauling although, that's the fault of the country at large and the silly laws by which institutions have to abide.

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i agree with spuggie.... its racial driscrimination in reverse.....:engsmil:

i hope alec is o.k.

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there was a case recently where a guy rang up to say his car was being stolen, teh police said they couldn't get anyone there for an hour or two. He said, its OK then I sort it out with my baseball bat then, there were 4 cars there within 5 minutes. He got done for wasting police time!

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the law is an ass,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what a true saying that is!

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It's ludicrous for anyone to turn up at 11:30 and expect to take a statement, particularly from a minor. This is definitely an assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and the police should definitely refer it to the CPS. Did Alec get the name of the passer-by? and would he be a witness? That would help to shove the CPS in the right direction.

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5 years ago I was beaten up outside a shcool in rawtenstall while waiting for a friend. I never even retaliated, I had an inch long gash under my lip, a bust nose, 2 black eyes, a loose tooth, a bust lip and plenty of cuts inside my mouth. I walked with my friend to his mothers works where they called an ambulance. I needed 4 stitches in the gash and 3 weeks before the swelling went down. I also missed a week of college and about 6 weeks of gigs, due to the injururies.

After being released from bury general, i went to rawtenstall police station where photos were taken of my injuries, and i was told it would be looked into.

A week later the police said they were dropping the charges as a lady, who just happened to be good friends with the parents of the boy involved, who couldn't possibly have seen what happened from her car 150yards away, had stated that 'the 2 young lads without uniform' had started it, which given the fact that i am female was a very strange comment to make!!! Although she admitted seeing me being thrown over a parked car!!!! The police took her word for it over ours as she was an adult and I was 18 and my friend 17.

That is when i lost faith in local policing they just can't be bothered to deal with these kinds of incidents, they are not interested in peoples safety or deterence of juveniles as it doesn't come high on their importance of crime listings, unless you are seriously injured or dead then they do not want to know. It's pathetic.

Oh and i have a scar from the gash as well, and I will never go around that area of rawtenstall again, all we were doing is picking a friend up from school.

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That sounds very painfull. I hope you made a swift recovery.

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Yeah it was and a mess too. It knocked my confidence quite a bit.

the gash was made i found out by the lads medalion ring!!

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Sorry to hear about your son... stick with it though, ask the police what they have done to find the culprits, then ask them if it would have been the same effort had it been a police officer attacked? watch thier faces!!!

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I had to ring the police a few week back because of Mount Carmel students although im pleased to say they dealt with it straight away,a group of them decided it would be funny to stand behind the fence at bullough park and throw snowballs at passing vehicles that was bad enough but then they thought it would be good to throw them at Jack, my 10 month old son:( what goes through these teens minds to do such things?its disgusting.

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Chrissie - I hope he is ok soon, what did the school say about it?

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i go moorhead and its like that all the time with asians think they rule the school everyone is told if you walk around in a group of 5+ then youll be asked by a teacher what are you doing but they dont give one about the asians they can do anuthing they can and get away with it

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You do realise sparkie that those guys who punched you with out a seconds though will go int o arelationship and be beating whatever girl it is black n blue, and maybe over many years if shes daft enough to stay.
This week there's been two stories in local newspapers one the town one way nuneaton, the other a town the tamworth. the tamworth one went back after a beating cos she found out she was pregnant. when he punched her again, she left him, when he came to collect the kid for visiting rights, he punched that hard he cracked her skull, the proceeded to take her in the bathroom to try to bath her to wash the blood off so the kid wouldnt see it. She was a pretty girl who could have got any guy she wanted, she still pretty but one eye is out of shape and her smiles not quite right, prob due to the metal plate in her head.
he's got 30 months, probably serve half that at most, she's got to carry the scars forever.
SO when something is done, not a lot is done, the punishment is pitiful.
They give people bigger sentences for fraud.
I believe the two crimes stated her to be of the worse kind, they're crimes against a persons actual body, they are comparable to rape, and the culprits will go on to do it again, yet the courts give them a tap on the wrist most of the time, if that. They are scum, they should be locked up away from decent people away from society.

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The police came back the night after at 8pm to ask alec some questions and he took some brief notes. He then came back again the night after that with the statement all printed for Alec to sign and me to counter-sign with him being a minor. So in total i had the police up 3 nights in a run !
The officer, who i will add was very nice is STILL waiting for the headmaster MR BATEMAN of MOORHEAD HIGH SCHOOL to ring through with the names, details and addresses of these kids. The police officer has told us that if he still hasnt handed over the names and details by Monday when the officer is back on day shift he will go to the school himself for them.
I was at Parents evening on Tuesday night and allmost every one of Alecs teachers had heard about what had happened. Even they have told me that one of the lads involved was a well known bully in school and had hit other kids before and got away with it.
It turns out that two of the lads that was assaulting Alec donot actually attend Moorhead but actually go to Mount Carmel. The headmaster of Moorhead HAS BEEN GIVEN THE NAMES of the other two from a witness who is the same age as Alec but wishes to remain annonymous.

I will keep you posted.

Chrissie

ps, luckily for Alec he is so thick skinned no bruising on his face was evident apart from red marks but he did have one in his scalp. The police have photographed this.

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At least they are still chasing it as opposed to just letting it slip away.

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Thats disgusting, hope Alec is well both physically and mentally.

About 2 months ago an asian lad was beaten up outside Witton High school in Blackburn, the police treated it as racially motivated and launched a full scale hunt for two offenders, which included a search of witton park using the force helicopter. Something's not right is it!!!

Again Chrissie hope everything is OK.

The police used to be on the ball when chasing us lot out of the park.:biggrin8:

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The police used to be on the ball when chasing us lot out of the park.:biggrin8:[/quote]

The good old days ! they never caught us, lol.:D Mind you we wasnt upto anything bad, just having a ciggie and a quiet alchoholic drink..... pmsl.

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Oh the memmories of illicit booze and fags of various kinds.......:o

Being chased by the police who were never fast enough (they actually patrolled on foot back then in the dark ages). :D

Now if I see one on foot I wonder if he has had his car pinched.

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lol @ spuggie !

:D :D :D