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staggeringman 05-04-2006 17:56

Chivalry???
 
:) was listening to the radio today and they where asking people if chivalry was a dieing art?what do you lot think? i still have my manners and open doors for others i also respect my elders,i have also told and brought my girls up the same, so is it dieing?

katex 05-04-2006 18:06

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Originally Posted by staggeringman
:) was listening to the radio today and they where asking people if chivalry was a dieing art?what do you lot think? i still have my manners and open doors for others i also respect my elders,i have also told and brought my girls up the same, so is it dieing?

To be honest Staggers, I don't think so at all. I know lots of our members will have tales to tell of rudeness and doors shut in their faces, but most of the male population still hold doors open for me, apologise if they accidentally bump into me.. let me go first in a queue .. only changes when they get behind the wheel of a car :(

What did most people on the radio say ?

accymel 05-04-2006 18:06

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Unfortunately Staggers it is these days & no wonder we have problems with the youth of today [tehehe makes me sound really old lol :D ] though have to say its not lost on me i was brought up with those values & trying to instill them in my youngsters :D

I hate the amercian chatshow participant attitude thats been imported over here the 'whatever - am i bovered talk to the hand & bucking chicken annoying gesture attitude :( that effects the Kevin & Perrys of today.

Gawd just realised ive aged considerably :eek:

staggeringman 05-04-2006 18:10

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i think as we get older we do get wiser,but a lot of kids these days would rather leave there feet on a seat than let people sit down :mad:


stop worrying about age accymel,it makes you age quicker :D

katex 05-04-2006 18:14

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Originally Posted by accymel
hate the amercian chatshow participant attitude thats been imported over here the 'whatever - am i bovered talk to the hand & bucking chicken annoying gesture attitude :( that effects the Kevin & Perrys of today.

American attitude .. ok only been to America twice so not that experienced, and a big place, once working in Virginia for 3 months and holiday in California, but my experience was they were more than polite .. and the children sooo well behaved, never heard them nagging their mums or running around the aisles as they do in our Supermarkets these days. Everyone was called Sir or Ma'am, felt like the Queen everyday. Don't think their chat shows give a good impression of the general attitude out there. It's just show business I suspect.

accymel 05-04-2006 18:17

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Pmsl Staggers thats true:p :D

Though it seems the me-me-I attitude is more privailent these days although some youngsters would get up & dont have feet on seats but respect for elders & authority seems to be on the decline, some of the things ive been called from youngsters is appalling:eek:

staggeringman 05-04-2006 18:21

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Pmsl Staggers thats true:p :D

Though it seems the me-me-I attitude is more privailent these days although some youngsters would get up & dont have feet on seats but respect for elders & authority seems to be on the decline, some of the things ive been called from youngsters is appalling:eek:

wasnt called an owd git by any chance.....pmsl :D :p :rofl38:

accymel 05-04-2006 18:21

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Its the commercial american tv attitude that even our commercial comedy tv embraces with the readily available choice on sat/cable is what im getting at - not Americans in general. Children copy what they see & seemingly popular parrot talk within our school children.

accymel 05-04-2006 18:23

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wasnt called an owd git by any chance.....pmsl :D :p :rofl38:

Lmfao!!! not quite but i was thinking of joining the old gits society:rolleyes: where do i sign up? pmsl :D

staggeringman 05-04-2006 18:25

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we are posting on it now...................lmao :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: ask less...he...hee:D

accymel 05-04-2006 18:26

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we are posting on it now...................lmao :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: ask less...he...hee:D

Wayhey! im in the right place then:rolleyes: :D pmsl

flashman 05-04-2006 18:30

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The only valid measure for good manners is if people get out of the swimming pool to have a pee.

But then you'll never know!

staggeringman 05-04-2006 19:01

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have you never been in a pool where the have added a dye to the water, and it turns colour when someone pees in it.....lol :D

KIPAX 05-04-2006 19:17

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Chivalry exists here.. Unfortunatly I get accused of being old fashioned or sexist whenever I display or put it into practice (but not by my wife)

Women go first through a door. hold doors open.. women walk on the inside of the street and many more that I see as good manners.. I still find it embarresing if a woman gets her purse out when in a pub or simmilar and tries to pay for a drink.... very embarresing actually.. lots more things and I guess some are old fashioned traits but there all born out of good manners and chivalry I believe.

Gayle 05-04-2006 19:25

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I think we women have to take some of the blame for the lack of chivalry in the world. It can be very hard for men to know what we want when we change the goal posts every week. For instance, I love it when doors are opened for me but I like to pay my own way in a pub whereas other women like men to pay for them all the time. That's just the tip of the iceberg so it's no surprise that some men have held their hands up and given up.

thomas_045 05-04-2006 19:27

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Well im always one to give up my seat on the bus. But it really REALLY annoys me when some of the 'older' people of the community 'purposely' put their bags on the seat next to them so you cant sit next to them! Especially when there is nowhere else to sit!

That really annoys me, but id always give up my seat, I dont mind standing.

Gayle 05-04-2006 19:29

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Well im always one to give up my seat on the bus. But it really REALLY annoys me when some of the 'older' people of the community 'purposely' put their bags on the seat next to them so you cant sit next to them! Especially when there is nowhere else to sit!

That really annoys me, but id always give up my seat, I dont mind standing.

Got to agree with you thomas, behave to others as you expect them to behave to you. If people want respect then they have to be prepared to give it too!

KIPAX 05-04-2006 19:31

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I havent given up..

I use the tube when in london and am amazed at the men sat down who dont move when pregnant, elderly or just women get on ... The off side is that if I was to get up then everyone would look at me stupid... But I couldnt just sit there... So now when I use the tube I usually stand anyways..

last year sometime I held a door open for a woman who stood back to let me through.. when she saw I was letting her through she said I was being plain awkward :(

Old people are the worse mannered people on this planet :( ..... I cant wait to be that old hehehe

thomas_045 05-04-2006 19:32

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Yeah, even though I think why do I do it at times, it doesnt change how im going to act. I will always be prepared to vacate my seat whether other people do or not. Doesnt bother me! Its actually one of the only things that doesnt change my actions. Usually I would of done the same as them, but to regain a polite, friendly enviroment in Hyndburn, some of us have to start somewhere!

SPUGGIE J 05-04-2006 22:30

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I have old fasioned beliefs and values and I am proud of them. There will be a very small minority who dont appreciate them but in general they are accepted sometimes in suprise as they are fading fast. Being polite and helpful to others wether young or old makes me feel good in myself.

grannyclaret 05-04-2006 22:38

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i always say thanks ....,and i thinks its lovely when men open doors ,and give up their seats... some women are ungrateful and arragant ,,i hope i am not like that,,,,,,,,,,EVER

garinda 05-04-2006 22:40

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Originally Posted by KIPAX
I use the tube when in london and am amazed at the men sat down who dont move when pregnant, elderly or just women get on ... The off side is that if I was to get up then everyone would look at me stupid... But I couldnt just sit there... So now when I use the tube I usually stand anyways.

Seventeen years of catching the tube everyday, soon cured me of offering my seat to a woman on the tube, if I was lucky enough to get one.

At first, being a nicely brought up little chap, I did always offer my seat to someone elderly, or a pregnant lady. The torrent of abuse I very often suffered for this act of chivalry, soon made me stop doing this.

It's good to be back in the north, were you can walk on the kerbside of a woman, open doors for people and be thanked, all in the knowledge that it is appreciated, as I myself do if someone shows me an act of kindeness.

I do agree though that friends of either gender should pay their way equally at the pub.:)

Good manners cost nothing.

pendy 06-04-2006 16:03

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I do find in London that people are less caring of others, they barge into you without apologising, take up all the pavement yakking so that you have to walk in the road, and often are downright rude. I have found recently that I have been offered a seat on the tube - I must look older than I'd hoped! It struck me the other day, we have bus ticket machines in Central London with a sign that says "Buy tickets before boarding". A while back it would have said "PLEASE buy tickets before boarding". Sign of the times?

staggeringman 06-04-2006 17:57

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i dont think its just the young ones that are manner- less,as you say pendy people barging about and not saying sorry! what about the women with prams and super market trolleys they do my shed in! they stop on the narrowest aisles and pavements to have a chin wag,making people walk into the main road or having to go down another aisle :mad:


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