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mani 04-05-2006 15:34

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i just this is totally wrong. i mean i hope her kid has a long and happy life as does she but what if she dies aged 70 whcih is totally possible - there'll b this 8 yr old who will b really upset and affect the kids life forever

even if she lasts till 80 the kids 20 yrs old... and its not as if she hasnt got kids already

lettie 04-05-2006 15:42

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I heard about this on the radio this morning. She has been to Italy for IVF so has probably paid a small fortune to have it done. I have to say that I doubt that any doctor in this country would have performed IVF on her and she certainly wouldn't qualify for it over here. I suppose that on the continent, anyone who is willing to pay for a procedure qualifies. In my opinion women stop being able to get pregnant at a certain age for a reason. It is what nature intended and should be respected. I only hope that she has a decent, caring family who will look after this child when she is no longer around.

chav1 04-05-2006 16:17

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how old is tha father ?

or was teh spunk paid for as well

pendy 04-05-2006 16:39

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It is sad when you meet somebody later in life with whom you would love to have children. However, you can't have everything, contrary to what seems to happen so much these days. As Lettie says, Nature is wise. Women can't have children late in life for good reasons, not least the welfare of the child. Perhaps she's rich enough to afford nannies and good child care, but where is the point in having one if you don't spend time with it?

garinda 04-05-2006 16:56

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Originally Posted by pendy
It is sad when you meet somebody later in life with whom you would love to have children. However, you can't have everything, contrary to what seems to happen so much these days. As Lettie says, Nature is wise. Women can't have children late in life for good reasons, not least the welfare of the child. Perhaps she's rich enough to afford nannies and good child care, but where is the point in having one if you don't spend time with it?

If it's nature's way of stopping older people becoming parents, why do men still produce active sperm until death?

Admittedly with the sperm doing a gentle, sedate breast stroke, rather than a more frantic front crawl, as they would have been doing when the man was younger.;)

chav1 04-05-2006 17:56

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Originally Posted by garinda
If it's nature's way of stopping older people becoming parents, why do men still produce active sperm until death?

maybe its because like some delacacies sperm is best eaten live :D


not that i have tried it i think i better make that VERY clear :p

katex 04-05-2006 18:01

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Originally Posted by lettie
In my opinion women stop being able to get pregnant at a certain age for a reason. It is what nature intended and should be respected. I only hope that she has a decent, caring family who will look after this child when she is no longer around.

It is mainly to do with the energy you have I think Lettie, I had my son at 39 and think that was about the line ... found this out when I had to look after my Grandaughter quite a bit 'cause of my daughter's shifts.... 7 years later. Although you find the energy from somewhere, very difficult to keep up with their boundless capacity for activity.

katex 04-05-2006 18:04

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Originally Posted by garinda
If it's nature's way of stopping older people becoming parents, why do men still produce active sperm until death?

Admittedly with the sperm doing a gentle, sedate breast stroke, rather than a more frantic front crawl, as they would have been doing when the man was younger.;)

Yeh, has been proved though that even though still produced, does lose some of its qualities and not really recommended to father a child late in life for fear of disabilities to the foetus. Hey !! I'm gettin' quite serious here 'aint I :D

chav1 04-05-2006 18:11

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Originally Posted by katex
Yeh, has been proved though that even though still produced, does lose some of its qualities and not really recommended to father a child late in life for fear of disabilities to the foetus. Hey !! I'm gettin' quite serious here 'aint I :D

dont get too serious or we will have europe telling us that we have to have sell by dates on our balls next :mad:

Nell 04-05-2006 18:15

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yeh c'mon, lighten up kate, maybe you should have responded to chav's message instead.

Also, i know someone who went through the menopause in her twenties! Some women do go through it young and maybe mother nature does need to be questioned in these cases.

katex 04-05-2006 18:17

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Originally Posted by chav1
dont get too serious or we will have europe telling us that we have to have sell by dates on our balls next :mad:

Hey, what a good idea !! Think I will put this forward to the European Commission if that's the correct body.

Mmmmmm... where's me stamp ink, what would be the rate for this job, do you think. ?? Oh Gawd, we getting silly agen.:rolleyes:

Neil 04-05-2006 18:19

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Originally Posted by chav1
dont get too serious or we will have europe telling us that we have to have sell by dates on our balls next :mad:

Rindy told me yours had already past their best :eek:

SPUGGIE J 04-05-2006 18:42

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Lets see now a child is born to a 15 year old kid. Then she has a kid in every of her four marriges. Then at 60 she meets a rich toyboy and opts to have IVF to gain another sprog. Does this mean women are palying at keeping up with the Jonses?

SPUGGIE J 04-05-2006 18:42

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Lets see now a child is born to a 15 year old kid. Then she has a kid in every of her four marriges. Then at 60 she meets a rich toyboy and opts to have IVF to gain another sprog. Does this mean women are palying at keeping up with the Jonses?

West Ender 04-05-2006 19:53

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All I can say is this woman's 1) self-centred 2) deranged 3) suffering from memory loss.

She's about my age and I can't imagine having to start coping all over again with nappies and feeds, potty-training, school, teenage blues. I have 2 grandchildren and I love them both to bits. I brought my own children up and I have always been "hands on" with theirs but after over 42 years of parenting and grandparenting I also have time to live my life for myself - as Nature intended. I just hope she has the energy, I haven't.

katex 04-05-2006 20:00

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Originally Posted by West Ender
All I can say is this woman's 1) self-centred 2) deranged 3) suffering from memory loss.

She's about my age and I can't imagine having to start coping all over again with nappies and feeds, potty-training, school, teenage blues. I have 2 grandchildren and I love them both to bits. I brought my own children up and I have always been "hands on" with theirs but after over 42 years of parenting and grandparenting I also have time to live my life for myself - as Nature intended. I just hope she has the energy, I haven't.

Couldn't have put it better myself Westender.. what a plonker, eh ?

chav1 04-05-2006 20:14

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Originally Posted by Neil
Rindy told me yours had already past their best :eek:

at times neil you realy can be a cupid stunt :p

Neil 04-05-2006 20:29

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Originally Posted by chav1
at times neil you realy can be a cupid stunt :p

Thanks for reminding me,I really enjoyed watching Kenny Everitt

junetta 04-05-2006 21:02

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Both of my children were born whilst I was in my early twenties but I do remember feeling really desperate for another child when I was around my middle forties. I think those feelings were mainly because I knew that time was running out for me. We did try, had some fun over it too!!

My daughter helped me out by giving birth to her first child and all my maternal emotions were heaped onto my first grandaughter, lovely Jamie!

I am now so relieved that I don't have a young teenager running around the place and am able to enjoy my fifties. I can't understand why this woman has done such a thing and agree that it's not natural and shouldn't have happened but best of luck to her and hers.

June xx

cashman 04-05-2006 21:15

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[QUOTE=West Ender]All I can say is this woman's 1) self-centred 2) deranged 3) suffering from memory loss.

spot on west ender, also i think that as they will not do it in this country for ladies that age, she should be deprived of family allowance and sod off to where she paid the money. god help that child in its teens,cos she will probably have croaked then.

cashman 04-05-2006 21:15

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[QUOTE=West Ender]All I can say is this woman's 1) self-centred 2) deranged 3) suffering from memory loss.

spot on west ender, also i think that as they will not do it in this country for ladies that age, she should be deprived of family allowance and sod off to where she paid the money. god help that child in its teens,cos she will probably have croaked then.

katex 04-05-2006 22:17

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Just watched her on the news .. has the title of 'Dr' .. didn't say what. She said had made every provision if they expired, like money, care, etc., not quite the same though, eh ?

Hasn't even got their genes .. so what's the point ?? Better donating or caring for a child already here that needs some love, even though could be short lived, better than none.

grannyclaret 04-05-2006 22:21

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:eek: Personaly i think she must be sick or very sad,,,,When i had Damian i was 30,,and one little lad at his nursery asked me if i was his grandmother,,, I WAS HORRIFIED,, mind you his mum was only 17 so i think i must have looked ancient to him...Now what would he have made out of this lady??????:D

garinda 04-05-2006 22:32

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I think she'd have been better off expressing her maternal love by providing a free child minding service, so that young Mum's who find themselves having to work could be hepled.

I was going to suggest fostering, but with current guidelines, she'd be considered too old for that.

SPUGGIE J 04-05-2006 22:46

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Did she see a shrink before going through this. Even abroad they must have rules around this kind of action. Feel really sad and sorry for the sprog already.

garinda 04-05-2006 22:49

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Did she see a shrink before going through this. Even abroad they must have rules around this kind of action. Feel really sad and sorry for the sprog already.

I think if you have the readies you can just about buy anything, if you are prepared to travel.

I don't know the rules on IVF in Italy, I suppose being a Catholic country they might encorage it, and see it as not wasting God's precious seed.

garinda 04-05-2006 23:04

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Originally Posted by katex
Just watched her on the news .. has the title of 'Dr' .. didn't say what.

It's just said on the radio news that she is a child psychiatrist!:eek:

SPUGGIE J 04-05-2006 23:17

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Hope she aint still praticing if she would put a kid through what she iss doing.

katex 04-05-2006 23:34

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Originally Posted by garinda
It's just said on the radio news that she is a child psychiatrist!:eek:

That is sooooo funny, can't believe it ... :rofl38:

SPUGGIE J 04-05-2006 23:36

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Not all the daft people in the world work at Westminster. :p

garinda 04-05-2006 23:38

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Originally Posted by katex
That is sooooo funny, can't believe it ... :rofl38:

Sadly it appears to be true.:(


'Don't have a tantrum Tarquin, Mummy likes it in the nursing home.'


'Now you're potty trained you can help Mummy on to the comode, and stop being difficult.'

SPUGGIE J 04-05-2006 23:44

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Originally Posted by garinda
Sadly it appears to be true.:(


'Don't have a tantrum Tarquin, Mummy likes it in the nursing home.'


'Now you're potty trained you can help Mummy on to the comode, and stop being difficult.'


ROFPML G nice anicdote and lesson. :rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38:

mez 09-05-2006 11:56

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Oh Westender How I Do Agree With You ....i Have Brought My G/daughter Up Since She Was 11yrs Old She Is 19 This Year .the Road Has Not Been An Easy One & Ive Felt Useless At Times But She Is A Great Kid ..but I Would Never Recommend Or Want A Child In My Late 50's Or 60's ..i Will Be 62 This Year & No Way Do I Want Another .DON'T GET ME WRONG IM GLAD IVE GOT MY G/DAUGHTER LIVING WITH ME ..WE'VE HAD SOME FUN .

ANNE 09-05-2006 22:37

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Even now I still get broody when I see a tiny baby. But all to soon tiny babies grow up into demanding children.
I only have to have one of my lovely Grandchildren for a few days and then I realise it's nice to see them come and nice to see them go.
This old woman must have something seriously wrong with her. She is most certainly not thinking of the child in all of this.

MUMMIBOO 10-05-2006 09:13

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What a shame for the child it is almost certain that the mother will die while the child is of a young age how selfish just think of the pain that child will feel as most of us get a whole life with our parents and then have tha pain of seeing tham die when we are older and alot more able to cope with the situation af death.

Daddiboo's mum died when he was only 4 years old and his dad died when he was only 15! and like i said no child should have to bury a parent as young as that!

That woman must be scared of dying alone and that is sooo selfish she has thought of herself through and through.

Also i think she said that other family members will look after the child when she is gone, but what if they didnt want another child then they will feel pressured into it.

I give up what is this world comming to?

pendy 10-05-2006 11:39

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I agree that she does come over as selfish - I want it, and therefore I must have it at all costs. Am very glad my children never needed her as a psych!

SPUGGIE J 10-05-2006 18:14

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Selfish arrogent sellfish publisity seeking more money than sense egotistical women.

ANNE 10-05-2006 21:41

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It's very good of her saying " I'll have a baby and then someone else will look after it."
It makes me angry just thinking about this selfish being.
You can just imagine the heart broken child in a few years.
" Tell me about my mum"
Oh she only had you because she wanted a baby. It didn't matter to her that she wouldn't be around to see you grown up coz somebody will look after you.
It's even more scary to think that there are people in the so called caring profession that think allowing her to do this is OK.

chav1 13-05-2006 09:21

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i hear shes not making any plans as regearding watching her grandchildren grow up :)

Neil 13-05-2006 10:14

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO
Also i think she said that other family members will look after the child when she is gone, but what if they didnt want another child then they will feel pressured into it.

You know the old saying, "Where there's a will, there's a way"

Debbie J 13-05-2006 13:40

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I too lost my parents at a relatively young age, but it was worse for my younger brother, he was 14months when my dad died at the age of 39 and he was 11 years old when my mum died at the age of 45. I know how much he suffered from losing them so young and I too think this so called psychiatrist needs treatment for dillusional ideas!


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