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talentedbutslow 15-05-2006 19:01

What it means to be British..
 
:confused: :confused: What It Means To Be British:


One of the British national daily newspapers is asking readers "what it means to be British"

Being British is about driving in a German car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then travelling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese TV.

And the most British thing of all?



Suspicion of anything foreign.''''''http://sc.groups.msn.com/themes/R9c/...s/emsmileo.gif

morgan_brotherz 15-05-2006 19:02

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Jeez. Thats old. Havent heard that one for ageeeesss..

SPUGGIE J 15-05-2006 19:08

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It may be old but is very true. So are we getting as confused as the Americans are getting parinoid.

BLACKBURN RAVER 15-05-2006 19:52

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good job im ENGLISH then

:engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil:

cpcman 15-05-2006 20:36

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Im not BRITISH i am ENGLISH and please dont tell me otherwise! Britain consists of ENGLAND scotland and wales! Im not scotish or welsh im from ENGLAND what is good for the goose is good for the gander! Thankyou Lee:engsmil:

SPUGGIE J 15-05-2006 21:10

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Originally Posted by cpcman
Im not BRITISH i am ENGLISH and please dont tell me otherwise! Britain consists of ENGLAND scotland and wales! Im not scotish or welsh im from ENGLAND what is good for the goose is good for the gander! Thankyou Lee:engsmil:

So on this basis what does that make me then? Oh by the way you forgot Ulster/Northern Ireland.

BLACKBURN RAVER 15-05-2006 21:15

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
So on this basis what does that make me then? Oh by the way you forgot Ulster/Northern Ireland.

a jock in a frock :D :D ;) :engsmil:

SPUGGIE J 15-05-2006 21:17

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
a jock in a frock :D :D ;) :engsmil:

Cheers BR but I was born in Accy. :eek: :p

shakermaker 15-05-2006 21:17

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Sorry to mention, 'blackburn raver' and 'cpcman', but to be English is to be part of the biggest cultural hybrid in the history of the world. You'll struggle to find a country that doesn't house some of your ancestors in the modern world.

The most absurd thing is that the flag-molesting amongst us thoroughly believe that Blake's "green & pleasant land" still lies strong; when in fact we are seeing Orwell's 1984 unravel before our eyes in an embarassed excuse for a kingdom.

****** it...give it a year you'll see it for yerselves!!

BLACKBURN RAVER 15-05-2006 21:20

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Originally Posted by shakermaker
Sorry to mention, 'blackburn raver' and 'cpcman', but to be English is to be part of the biggest cultural hybrid in the history of the world. You'll struggle to find a country that doesn't house some of your ancestors in the modern world.

The most absurd thing is that the flag-molesting amongst us thoroughly believe that Blake's "green & pleasant land" still lies strong; when in fact we are seeing Orwell's 1984 unravel before our eyes in an embarassed excuse for a kingdom.

****** it...give it a year you'll see it for yerselves!!

I WAS BORN ENGLISH IL LIVE ENGLISH AND IL BLOODY WELL DIE ENGLISH AND NOBODY WILL TELL ME OTHERWISE...i suppose ur one of these that celebrates paddys day rather than st georges are you ?

SPUGGIE J 15-05-2006 21:22

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Originally Posted by shakermaker
Sorry to mention, 'blackburn raver' and 'cpcman', but to be English is to be part of the biggest cultural hybrid in the history of the world. You'll struggle to find a country that doesn't house some of your ancestors in the modern world.

The most absurd thing is that the flag-molesting amongst us thoroughly believe that Blake's "green & pleasant land" still lies strong; when in fact we are seeing Orwell's 1984 unravel before our eyes in an embarassed excuse for a kingdom.

****** it...give it a year you'll see it for yerselves!!

Are you implying we are one of the the most Heinz 57 countries around? :o

As for a year Shaker you are def an optimist. :p

shakermaker 15-05-2006 21:25

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You gotta have hope, Spug! (It's the British way!)

Heinz 57? Well; it seems we have been mixed by the germans :)

shakermaker 15-05-2006 21:27

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
I WAS BORN ENGLISH IL LIVE ENGLISH AND IL BLOODY WELL DIE ENGLISH AND NOBODY WILL TELL ME OTHERWISE...

You're very very wrong :)

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
i suppose ur one of these that celebrates paddys day rather than st georges are you ?

Yes, because I'm Irish :)

Ta for the karma comment by the way....lovely how you hide you're comments away from the public. How very British :D

talentedbutslow 15-05-2006 21:27

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OOPSA.....think I stirred up a hornest nest here.........:o

BLACKBURN RAVER 15-05-2006 21:31

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Originally Posted by shakermaker
You're very very wrong :)
Yes, because I'm Irish :)

in your opinion


sums up why you are a bit backwards in coming forwards then :D

shakermaker 15-05-2006 21:35

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Actually fella; it's a fact that the colonies are a large part of British past generations, thus making you a very foreign being indeed. Or...are you denying all knowledge of Blighty being the all conquering empire? hmm...well if the historians are lying they're dong it in style!

BLACKBURN RAVER 15-05-2006 21:37

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Originally Posted by shakermaker
Ta for the karma comment by the way....lovely how you hide you're comments away from the public. How very British :D

no problem and just so people know i kept it short and sweet

Google Page Ranking**k.......BR...:D

shakermaker 15-05-2006 21:39

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lol
i love this guy
he's like a character out of 'love thy neighbour'

spiffing.

SPUGGIE J 15-05-2006 21:42

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Originally Posted by talentedbutslow
OOPSA.....think I stirred up a hornest nest here.........:o

Tal nowt wrong with stirring up a hornets nest it is fun. Well providing you can run quick enough.

:xena_bana :swear8: :hitting8: :bleedht: :dogrun: :hesoff: :do-one:

shillelagh 15-05-2006 23:04

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
So on this basis what does that make me then? Oh by the way you forgot Ulster/Northern Ireland.

United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales.

That clear it up for you spuggie?

steeljack 16-05-2006 00:51

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I seem to remember being taught at the Top Council in Arrod that ,
Britain = England, Wales, Scotland .
Great Britain= England, Wales. Scotland and Ireland (north and south) , United Kingdom = England,Wales,Scotland and Ulster not sure where the Isle of Man belongs

whatever ....its just a couple of small islands off the coast of Europe

WillowTheWhisp 16-05-2006 09:26

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The full title is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."

"The British Isles" = Scotland/England/Wales & Ireland (north and south) plus all the other little bits around the edges including the Isle of Man.

Does that help?

expat 16-05-2006 09:27

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excuse my ignorance but what is the differance between U.K & Great Britain
Is it northern Ireland

WillowTheWhisp 16-05-2006 09:29

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Yes! lol (see my pervious post)

expat 16-05-2006 09:30

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I was a bit late, I see with my question, I have read the previous answers.
Thanks

SPUGGIE J 16-05-2006 09:35

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All this confusion from a few little words. Does it matter what we call are selves or how we discribe the islands on which we live?

talentedbutslow 16-05-2006 11:04

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I was taught at school....Great Britain was England,Wales,Scotland and Northern Ireland.......wonder if ACCY grammar got it wrong?

SPUGGIE J 16-05-2006 11:23

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I have given up trying to work it out. Would the Falklands be classed as British or a British territory?????

talentedbutslow 16-05-2006 11:30

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British Protectorate........I think.....

Tealeaf 16-05-2006 13:05

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Originally Posted by talentedbutslow
I was taught at school....Great Britain was England,Wales,Scotland and Northern Ireland.......wonder if ACCY grammar got it wrong?

It did. Great Britain is ESW only. The United Kingdom is that of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The British Isles are the Islands of Britain & Ireland, irrespective of the political division on the latter.

pendy 16-05-2006 13:50

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Didn't the phrase "United Kingdom" originate when James V of Scotland became James I of England?

pendy 16-05-2006 13:50

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Sorry, James VI, not James V - old age takes its toll.

Tealeaf 16-05-2006 14:04

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Originally Posted by pendy
Didn't the phrase "United Kingdom" originate when James V of Scotland became James I of England?

Nope. It was a century later, when in the 1706 Act of Union (England & Scotland) we had the Union of Great Britain; then the 1800 Union between Great Britain & Ireland led to the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland. This was amended in 1922 following partition, to the UK of GB & NI.

WillowTheWhisp 16-05-2006 20:22

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Great Britain is ESW only. The United Kingdom is that of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The British Isles are the Islands of Britain & Ireland, irrespective of the political division on the latter.


That's more or less what I said Tealeaf but you put it so much more eloquently.:) If teachers are giving out duff information what hope is there for the future? :rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 16-05-2006 20:52

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

That's more or less what I said Tealeaf but you put it so much more eloquently.:) If teachers are giving out duff information what hope is there for the future? :rolleyes:

Considering how some of the leave school there aint much hope for this country anymore. Most are more "warlike" than some of those African Nations in strife.

Wynonie Harris 17-05-2006 13:18

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Interesting to see that Gordon Brown has been making heartwarming little speeches about Britishness. Could it be he's worried that when he steps into the Dear Leader's shoes, his untenable position as a Scottish MP voting in our Parliament on matters that don't affect his constituents will be shown up to be the democratic sham that it undoubtedly is?

Take the tuition fees bill, for instance. This was voted through with the help of Scottish Labour MPs, yet it has nothing to do with their constituents, because educational affairs in Scotland are decided in the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh. Hardly democratic, but, then again, when has this government ever worried about a little thing like deomcracy?

garinda 17-05-2006 13:24

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Take the tuition fees bill, for instance. This was voted through with the help of Scottish Labour MPs, yet it has nothing to do with their constituents, because educational affairs in Scotland are decided in the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh. Hardly democratic, but, then again, when has this government ever worried about a little thing like deomcracy?

Scottish MPs shouldn't have a vote on matters that relate only to English and Welsh law. Infact they should ****** off back north of the border if they truly believe in devolution.

If asked I too am English and proud to be so.

Wynonie Harris 17-05-2006 13:29

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Originally Posted by garinda
Scottish MPs shouldn't have a vote on matters that relate only to English and Welsh law.

Quite right. I would have thought that it was relatively easy to introduce a measure which debarred Scottish MPs from voting on matters which affect only England and Wales. Perhaps Greg could enlighten us?

Mancie 17-05-2006 23:09

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Being British is to feel British, i could'nt care less were people are from or what colour they are, if you feel inside you are British then you know the confidence you have and how lucky you are to be a part of these islands. and "COME ON ENGLAND!!!!

Mik Dickinson 20-05-2006 18:52

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Being English means to me my life.A way of life and a belief in my ancestry.I will not conform and i will fight for my rights.I will eat chips outta newspaper and all fish should be batterred.Bacon should not be smoked and we make the best crisps in the world.
The English people are the most open on this planet, and i love em all to bits.Sorry B. Raver i left England but have never stopped loving it.

Madhatter 20-05-2006 21:24

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Whats the falklands then, I always thought they were classed as uk.
You can only be what you are. I'm not sure what some of you class as english, I class myself as british, I was born here but my grandads polish, does that mean i'm english? if not, why do people call themselves english, when a few generations back they wasn't born here? What is english?, never mind what it is to be british, we all know that, it's to be here and want to be here and to be proud and support britain.
And it's st georges day for me, I usually decorate the street with flags. 23rd of the 4th 234. I can never understand why people here celebrate st patricks but can't even remember st georges day.
except the irish of course shaker. That makes sense.

Madhatter 20-05-2006 22:36

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Quite bizarely the transport and general workers secretary is claiming that the half a million illegal immigrant workers should stay here and keep the jobs because it would be cruel to send them home, and we need the workers.

cashman 20-05-2006 23:03

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i,m british and proud of it,also a realist! the reason british people celebrate st patricks day is simple= its a damn sight better p*** up than st.georges.:D

Madhatter 21-05-2006 00:29

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How you figure that?, you mean a better atmosphere?

talentedbutslow 21-05-2006 04:43

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Originally Posted by cashman
its a damn sight better p*** up than st.georges.:D

oooo............Am I invited..........????.......:D

SPUGGIE J 21-05-2006 11:47

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Originally Posted by cashman
i,m british and proud of it,also a realist! the reason british people celebrate st patricks day is simple= its a damn sight better p*** up than st.georges.:D

So true cashy. How many on here have Irish blood in them? Say what they want about the Irish but boy do they know how to have a good bevvying session. :D

talentedbutslow 21-05-2006 20:17

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That might have something to do with Jamesons whiskey being so smooth....it,s a nice drop.........;)

SPUGGIE J 21-05-2006 20:23

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Originally Posted by talentedbutslow
That might have something to do with Jamesons whiskey being so smooth....it,s a nice drop.........;)

16 year old if you can get it is top notch. Not as good as good Scottish Whisky though. :D

Madhatter 21-05-2006 23:19

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
So true cashy. How many on here have Irish blood in them? Say what they want about the Irish but boy do they know how to have a good bevvying session. :D

great gran on my mums side was irish. :engsmil:

jambutty 22-05-2006 12:16

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To be British means that you were either born in GB or your father was British if you were born abroad somewhere. You hold or are eligible to hold a British Passport. I believe that if you were born abroad from non-British parents you can still get British citizenship if your paternal grandfather was British.

However my eldest daughter was born in Capetown whilst I was stationed at Cape East/HMS Afrikander (naval base) whilst serving in the Royal Navy, her birth was registered with the British Consulate and she received a British birth certificate. Yet when she recently applied for a passport she was turned down because the passport office told her that she was not British.

I do believe SPUGGIE J that Great Britain consists of England (excluding parts of Bradford, Blackburn and Accrington and several other towns which are known as suburbs of Karachi), Scotland and Wales. This includes the Isle of Man, the Isle of Wight, the Scottish islands and the Channel Islands. When Northern Ireland is tagged on we become the United Kingdom and when Ulster is tagged on we become the British Isles.

However after the recent antics of Senator Blair we can also be classed as the unofficial 51st state of the USA.

Greg Pope 22-05-2006 14:19

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I agree with Wynonie Harris on this - Scots MPs shouldn't be able to vote on purely English matters. Lots of Scots will vote on this week's Education Bill, yet it doesn't affect them or their constituents at all. Some people say we would end up with two-tier MPs, but I think that we already effectively have that in that I can't vote on Scottish education matters but Scots can vote on English education.

Acrylic-bob 22-05-2006 14:52

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They're pretty damned useful when it comes to heading off back bench revolts though, arent they? Little wonder then that Saint Tony doesn't want the East Lothian question either asked or answered.

SPUGGIE J 22-05-2006 17:15

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Originally Posted by Greg Pope
I agree with Wynonie Harris on this - Scots MPs shouldn't be able to vote on purely English matters. Lots of Scots will vote on this week's Education Bill, yet it doesn't affect them or their constituents at all. Some people say we would end up with two-tier MPs, but I think that we already effectively have that in that I can't vote on Scottish education matters but Scots can vote on English education.

The irony is Greg that on some bills that are to apply to England and Wales only he might need the Scots crew to get them though.

Greg Pope 22-05-2006 19:13

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The real irony is that I know of quite a few Scots Labour MPs who are going to vote against Tony tomorrow! Anyway, have to go and vote now (on a Bill that applies to all parts of the UK regarding the Armed Forces).

Shady McGough 22-05-2006 20:58

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Surely what it means to be British is being proud of having a lot of the best things this world has to offer - Best Literature, Best Music, Best Television, Best Theatre, Best Actors and Actressess and Best Footy team (Accy Stanley).

Mik Dickinson 23-05-2006 08:36

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Will go along with that shady, not to mention that the friendliest people in the world live in the N.W. of Britain

jambutty 29-05-2006 17:19

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Many thanks for the Karma (probably negative) from someone who wrote:
parts of blackburn & bradford not in england in your view hmm? they are just as english as you. nobhead

Obviously the person didn’t understand the irony of my comments about Blackburn, Bradford etc being suburbs of Karachi?

Who is this person nobhead? There is no member listed under that name.

Oh! I get it! Not only does the Karma giver or taker away not have a clue about writing in English (capital E – get it?) s/he doesn’t have the guts of a true Englishman to put their name to their comments. So sad! So very, very sad!

Mik Dickinson 29-05-2006 17:37

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Oy j.B. knock it on the head i was born in Bradford.British through and through ask any German when i am shouting Achtung Spitfire.Last time i did it was when we won 5 - 1

Madhatter 30-05-2006 00:39

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I got one that said 'ye get real. dickhead' butthen he decided to add his real name, didn't you cashman.:D

yerself 30-05-2006 09:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jambutty
When Northern Ireland is tagged on we become the United Kingdom and when Ulster is tagged on we become the British Isles.

:confused: Northern Ireland and Ulster are one and the same place.


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