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Try the traffic lights at the Newbridge roundabout for size. M8 M9 junction that is abnsolute chaos at rush hour. :(

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I have seen them as well. They seem very close to the actual motorway. So when they change to green you wont have much time to accelerate before you have to get of the slip road. I always thought the idea of the slip road was to allow you to reach the same speed as the cars in the 1st lane. I think it will cause accidents when slow cars are pulling into lane 1 forcing other cars to move into lane 2.

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Shock horror here but I actually agree with Neil. This can't be right, a subject we agree on!

But, it seems to me that traffic lights are completely opposite to what a motorway sliproad is for.

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They already use them on the M6 at junction 10, they dont work in my opinion
They only become active when the motorway is busy

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theyhave them on roundabouts and they are bloody confusing so it wouldnt surprise me if we saw traffic lights on teh motor way lol :confused:

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They do work, they've been on slips down here for years, although KSH is right in saying they only come on when it's really slow traffic, which is why they do work.

I've just realised, you could be getting the wrong idea, when he says traffic lights on the motorway, he means JUST on the SLIP not on the motorway. It's not your the slips turn, then the motorways turn, it's just stop go for the slip, it stops a constant flow off the slip, pushing in, and stopping the motorway traffic. I think it works, but it's benefit is small.

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You are only a young and inexperianced driver my son. When you are old and wise like me you will understand that red means stop and green means go.

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excuse me but i have conquered all teh ridge racer series and colin mcra series plus many other games including pole position

much experience i have :)

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I’ve just become the thirteenth voter – aaaaaaaaaaaarghhh! Throw me a black cat someone.

I wonder if the bright spark whom thought up this daft scheme really thought things through? I guess not.

If the nearside lane is nose to tail with traffic during peak hours, a traffic light is not going to alleviate the situation. In fact as some responders have already pointed out it will just create a jam on the road feeding the slip road.

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red means stop and green means go.

Thanks for clearing that up Neil. Now all you have to do is convince some 50% of drivers that red doesn’t mean “I can just get through even if it means other traffic having to break hard to avoid hitting me. Yeee Ha! I’ve saved 15 seconds.”
I would also point out to those drivers who don’t seem to have a clue what the traffic lights mean, that amber, or orange if you like, also means stop if it is safe to do so (meaning that no one will re-arrange your rear end if you do stop) otherwise go ahead with caution. It does not mean accelerate and hope to get across.

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Of course they've thought it through, they've had years to test it too, they've been on birminghams slips for over ten years. Aparently if the traffic is let on in bunches instead of a car every few seconds then it keeps the traffic flowing. How can it create mayhem? the traffics got to be slow for them to be switched on, the traffic lights at worst will make no difference.

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Here is J 23, Madhatter, WHERE is the waiting traffic going to wait? :p

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1148318738

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Well, always seemed pretty reasonable to me. The A680 is a dual carriageway so traffic not wishing to join the motorway can still proceed for a 'short time only' single file in the outside lane at an acceptable speed, without drivers hopping in and out of lanes. Also, we are not aware of the timing of these lights, how long they are on red, and how many cars it would entail being brought to a halt for this duration. I'm confident that the surveys included this information so as not to have to big a build up. In the meantime, would allow a little more flow on the M6 at peak times.

I voted no, but misunderstood the question. Found driving on some dual carriageways in America, for instance, that lights were placed across fast flowing roads and thought this pretty dangerous, as just built up your speed and oh hek, another set of lights to allow traffice to cross or enter the main carriageway. Maybe this was because used to driving on UK roads where we are given preference over traffic entering.

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Interesting.... I think ive seen these traffic lights they are the junction before Dunkenhalgh coming from Blackburn, they are covered up aswell... I actually thought i was seeing things. Obviously Blackburn must of had a bit of the budget left over for last year so instead of spending it on a mini roundabout they have put lights up on a slip road leading to a motorway, hmmmm i wonder how many people are gonna actually take notice of them when they are working?

As it is common knowledge that a slip road is to get upto speed with the motorway to stop accidents not cause them, i wonder how many people are going to get shunted from behind before they actually decide to get rid of the things.

Another thing Speed cameras now ive counted 26 in Blackburn that has to be a record! i hate the dam things we should rebel and do what Gordon Ramsey and Jeremy "im so old fashioned " Clarkson said! Ramsey on speed cameras " best way to get away without being caught on a camera, wrap cling film around it! this way when it takes a pic it the flash will rebound on itself blurring the pic" or the Clarkson method " expandable foam in the hole round the back, watch it fall apart infront of you" lol a few tips :D

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[QUOTE=wozaup it is common knowledge that a slip road is to get upto speed with the motorway to stop accidents not cause them, i wonder how many people are going to get shunted from behind before they actually decide to get rid of the things.

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Well, they are usually put on when the motorway traffic is very heavy and moving slowly so picking up high speed on the slip road doesn't apply anyway, and in my opinion elviates any shunting.

Recommended speed to enter a motorway, under normal conditions, is 45 m.p.h.

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ah see not just a cute name but an intellegent brain aswell:D

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Eh, waz he talking to me ? ... do ya' think I've scored or is he being sarcastic ?. :D

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:D Just being polite afterall i am new here:D I have to set a good example!

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Well, you on the right road honey.

Oh shucks, just looked at his profile ... he's married :e9:

Good to see your imput here anyway. :)

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Thank you for your kind words.

Yes I am married 6yrs in June whooooo

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I can't agree with that Kate. I don't see how you can recommend a speed, it depends on the conditions on the motorway as you enter it. What are "normal conditions"? You should be entering lane 1 at the same speed as traffic in that lane. If you enter at a slower speed you will cause the vehicles in lane one to have to move to lane 2 at every junction. I know this is not always possible for all vehicles.

Check out the Highway Code here

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Course you are quite correct Neil, just when I have been pulled over onto the
hard shoulder by our traffice police, when they have decided they can let me go they always advise me to proceed slowly on the hard shoulder until I reach a speed of 45 m.p.h. .. conditions usually being normal .... :D :D

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That is a little different than joining the normal way from the slip road. Maybe if you hadn't been doing 70mph in the right hand lane with the "I am not breaking the speed limit so I am not moving" attitude then, you would not have been pulled over :p.

Only joking kate, why did they pull you? It is usually serious for them to pull someone over on the motorway because of the dangers involved. When i was younger I was stopped many times, never on a motorway though. Well almost on a motorway but not quite :D

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best way to avoid gettin caught is to stay under the speed limit.

Busman I see your point but if the motorway is slow, the traffic will be backing up anyway. The lights go green when the slip is full of waiting cars. I don't live in birmingham itself but from what I remember the slips there aren't any longer, and tey only get the usuall amount of mayhem.

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[QUOTE=Neil]Only joking kate, why did they pull you?/QUOTE]

Not tellin' ya' Neill, however, some of us women will do anything to be chastised by a man in uniform :D

Suffice to say, only got 3 points on me licence at present after a clean licence of 42 years .. that bloody camera in Whalley Road at Great Harwood .. 36 mph. Learnt the art of eyelash flickering and grovelling; does work for us gals.

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[quote=katex]Like you honesty and stylish attempts. :D

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Not on me it doesn't kate. I'm not falling for any more eyelash flickering or grovelling.

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So it must have been something really stupid or embarrassing :D :D :D

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Well, suppose so, last time was overtaking them at 85 .. was cheeky I suppose .. they thought I must av bin drunk to do such an horrendous thing, but, no way, near Christmas and been on the road since dawn, set off from London at 5.30 p.m. and just wanted to get home, that's all :( Didn't even take me name, just breathalysed me. See .. you made me tell now, probably get some stick from the 70 mph club. :rolleyes:

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Aaaah, you bin hurt Hatter ? there, there, we women ok really. :)

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Actually Amber means STOP UNLESS you wil cause an accident. It under no circumstances in this country means go with caution.

Being that I am in the position of having a broken back because some one 'thought' oh its amber but its OK, he's a biker he'll go through anyway, I'll accelerate through behind him...... Oh **** hes stopped!, Crash bang wallop.

May I just point out that it was perfectly safe for me to stop. I didn't brake hard or anything, it was purely someone who made an assumption about another driver. Had she been watching teh lights she should/would have been able to stop in plenty of time

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Another highway code link needed I think. Have a look here

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gosh Neil, you backing me up!!!!

Ian doesn't know if hes returned to teh same accyweb or its been infected by the friendly bug :D

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Stop unless you will cause an accident lmao. so it's ok to go if I cause an accident.
You mean stop unless in doing so might cause an accident.
In other words yes your right it means stop or don't go yet. it means get ready, an advanced warning.
But isn't that what butty said, stop but if it's not safe to do so, or you've already crossed the stop line proceed with caution. who would go through an amber and not proceed with caution, who wouldn't look to see if somethings coming out the sideroads etc, that you need to avoid.

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I always do, when your right ;) Which is usually very often. Anyway, I am being nice to everyone now.

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If you can't understand the simple explanation in the Highway Code, I will get my 8 year old can explain it in really simpleton terms for you.

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Good get him to explain it to you , because it's not me that questioned butties correct post. I know my highway code, thats why I didn't question him, I knew he was right. If your going to quote people, quote the whole lot so people can see that at no point in the post did I say that I didn't understand the very simple explanation in the highway code.