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Busman747 07-06-2006 20:58

July 1st 1916 - 2006
 
It has been reported in the L.E.T. that Hyndburn council, that is Peter Britcliffe along with Bill Turner, local historian and author, have announced an open air service and civic parade on the 1st July to commemorate the 90th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme in which the Accrington Pals suffered devastating losses on the opening day of the battle. This will include a two minute silence.

The Baxenden Bash Fair will also form part of the commemorations, and the Haworth Gallery will have an exhibition entitled "Our Dear Pals, the Somme and the Great War"

Accy town hall will be showing films of the Pals and the First World War and the Ossy Players will perform a play on BBC Radio Lancashire.

Gayle 07-06-2006 21:10

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Mmmm, yes I read that too. I went to a couple of meetings early in the year, there were a few groups who thought they had a bit of contribution to make to the 90th anniversary of the battle of the somme. Anyway, a certain person realised that there was all this stuff going on and that the Council should be involved. So he invited us all to a meeting which had to be held at Scaitcliffe House because he doesn't like going to meetings if they're held anywhere else. At the point that I realised that the Council (he) wanted to take all the glory for all of the stuff going on I backed out.

Yes, Ossy Players are putting on the Accrington Pals on Radio Lancashire so I suppose I have got to say thank you to them for giving us a bit of publicity in the paper today but (and yes, you can call me childish) it does annoy me that they are trying to take credit for the stuff that all of these community groups were trying to do. Typical!!!!!

jaysay 08-06-2006 09:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle
Mmmm, yes I read that too. I went to a couple of meetings early in the year, there were a few groups who thought they had a bit of contribution to make to the 90th anniversary of the battle of the somme. Anyway, a certain person realised that there was all this stuff going on and that the Council should be involved. So he invited us all to a meeting which had to be held at Scaitcliffe House because he doesn't like going to meetings if they're held anywhere else. At the point that I realised that the Council (he) wanted to take all the glory for all of the stuff going on I backed out.

Yes, Ossy Players are putting on the Accrington Pals on Radio Lancashire so I suppose I have got to say thank you to them for giving us a bit of publicity in the paper today but (and yes, you can call me childish) it does annoy me that they are trying to take credit for the stuff that all of these community groups were trying to do. Typical!!!!!

Still bitter Gayle, bad losers would be one of my items in room 101

Neil 08-06-2006 09:54

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Originally Posted by Gayle
it does annoy me that they are trying to take credit for the stuff that all of these community groups were trying to do. Typical!!!!!

Especially when HBC has removed it's assistance, both financially and physically, with other events within the Borough this year.

cashman 08-06-2006 12:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay
Still bitter Gayle, bad losers would be one of my items in room 101

i'll go with that one jaysay that would be my 6th item if i could squeeze it in- general custer was a glory hunter :D

g jones 08-06-2006 16:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay
Still bitter Gayle, bad losers would be one of my items in room 101

Knowing Gayle and having spoken with her, and she was the most gracious of losers on the night and wished Peter all the best, she isn't bitter at all, she is an active member of the community John and I think if you speak to her you' will quickly come to the same conclusion. She will make a great councillor if she decides to stand again.

jaysay 08-06-2006 16:55

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[quote=g jones]Knowing Gayle and having spoken with her, and she was the most gracious of losers on the night and wished Peter all the best, she isn't bitter at all, she is an active member of the community John and I think if you speak to her you' will quickly come to the same conclusion. She will make a great councillor if she decides to stand again.[/quot

Thank god for that Graham, I thought you'd gon missing, I was going to alert the police I was that concerned. As for the lovely Gayle I can't say I've had the pleasure of her comany, I'm sure she is a nice person, but I only commented on what I read in her post and came to that conclusion, anytime she posts something I agree with I will tell her so and the same goes for you, but in your case I can't really see that happening, can you.

claytonender 08-06-2006 17:48

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I thought the title of this post was 'Re: July 1st 1916 - 2006 ', not get at Gayle and Graham.
We owe so much to the men who were so brave, and lost their lives on the First Day of the Somme.

claytonender 08-06-2006 18:06

duplicate post -

andrewb 08-06-2006 19:06

Re: July 1st 1916 - 2006
 
Nothing like a bit of politics to get the blood boiling! :)

Doug 08-06-2006 19:17

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Sod the council, get out on the streets and remember those that went abroad and never returned home, remember those that did come home and suffered many years from the effect of that conflict, remember the widows, wives, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers that give so much…….Many others also fought from across East Lancashire, Yorkshire and further north as well as those who from home who fought with other Regiments and services. Sod HBC……..they’ve yet to give anything back.

Gayle, God Bless……

Cheers Busman.......

Doug 08-06-2006 19:17

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Sod it..............:)

g jones 08-06-2006 19:34

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Originally Posted by Doug
Sod the council, get out on the streets and remember those that went abroad and never returned home, remember those that did come home and suffered many years from the effect of that conflict, remember the widows, wives, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers that give so much…….Many others also fought from across East Lancashire, Yorkshire and further north as well as those who from home who fought with other Regiments and services. Sod HBC……..they’ve yet to give anything back.

It concerns me that we (through the generations) are forgetting slowly those that gave so much. I am told that Accrington was the smallest town to provide a full batalion. I think the efforts put in 3 years ago on Church Street were the beginnings of not just remembering our history, but considering what went through the minds of those so young (and not so)that faced impending mutilation, horror, death; and the forgotten victims, those loved ones left behind, mothers, girlfriends, dads, people we often forget even when commemoration time comes around..

I remember the old bloke next door to my gran who was used as Jap forced labour on the Kwai (WW2) for 3 years. He never got over it despite living to an old age.

g jones 08-06-2006 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Sod the council, get out on the streets and remember those that went abroad and never returned home, remember those that did come home and suffered many years from the effect of that conflict, remember the widows, wives, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers that give so much…….Many others also fought from across East Lancashire, Yorkshire and further north as well as those who from home who fought with other Regiments and services. Sod HBC……..they’ve yet to give anything back.

bloody server...

g jones 08-06-2006 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug
Sod the council, get out on the streets and remember those that went abroad and never returned home, remember those that did come home and suffered many years from the effect of that conflict, remember the widows, wives, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers that give so much…….Many others also fought from across East Lancashire, Yorkshire and further north as well as those who from home who fought with other Regiments and services. Sod HBC……..they’ve yet to give anything back.

Gayle, God Bless……

Cheers Busman.......


triple post.. Bloody server, the Council haven't taken over running Accy Web have they??

jaysay 08-06-2006 23:27

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Originally Posted by claytonender
I thought the title of this post was 'Re: July 1st 1916 - 2006 ', not get at Gayle and Graham.
We owe so much to the men who were so brave, and lost their lives on the First Day of the Somme.

I was not getting a Gayle or Graham for that matter, just Gayles comments on PB. My Grandfathers was gased in the great war and subsequently died 12 years before I was born, which fills me with great sadness, the fact that I never had the opertunity to see my granddad
The ist July will be a very special day for me

cashman 09-06-2006 00:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender
I thought the title of this post was 'Re: July 1st 1916 - 2006 ', not get at Gayle and Graham.
We owe so much to the men who were so brave, and lost their lives on the First Day of the Somme.

agree entirely claytonender but its to be expected from a self confessed life long tory.:D

Madhatter 09-06-2006 22:02

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No but they may have taken over the server g jones.

Gayle has made a valid point, and it's not sour grapes, it's made on her experience of working with community groups. Councils always do it, they make a small contribution to something that a lot of others have also contributed to and they announce it like non of it would have gone ahead if it wasn't for them. Points scoring over something like this is a complete no no in my eyes. TUT at you.

Madhatter 09-06-2006 23:44

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wheres me post gawn? stop hiding post, reveal yourself.

Madhatter 09-06-2006 23:44

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No but they may have taken over the server g jones.

Gayle has made a valid point, and it's not sour grapes, it's made on her experience of working with community groups. Councils always do it, they make a small contribution to something that a lot of others have also contributed to and they announce it like non of it would have gone ahead if it wasn't for them. Points scoring over something like this is a complete no no in my eyes. TUT at you.

cashman 09-06-2006 23:49

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Originally Posted by Madhatter
wheres me post gawn? stop hiding post, reveal yourself.

just sussed it - it was page 2 that vanished on mine! its just returned.pmsl

garinda 09-06-2006 23:56

Re: July 1st 1916 - 2006
 
(Glad this missing thread has reappeared.:))

Take a deep breath Jaysay, but I'm in favour of the leader of our council being involved with this memorial event.

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I for one would be very disappointed if our civic leaders weren't involved with this anniversary, and don't see it as stealing anyone's thunder. In a democracy it's their duty.

Doug 10-06-2006 00:45

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My Great Grandfather fought with the Kings Liverpool Regiment and left a leg back in France. I’ve also recently discovered that one of my great uncles fought and died with the East Lancs. and another died of his wound in 1922 after fighting with one of the Yorkshire Regiments. A number of distant relatives i.e. brothers of my great Grandmother also give their lot with the Pals.

I missed the dedication of the memorial the other year, but I hope to be there on the day of the Procession. Despite my earlier knock of HBC this is a day for all those with the wish, will and want to honour those men to be together and do so.

cashman 10-06-2006 00:52

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agree doug it dont matter who does/did what- sod all to do with politics EVERYONE should pull together on this one.

Madhatter 10-06-2006 01:13

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I agree, it doesn't matter, and everyone should, but it obviously matters to the council s because they always have to make a big point of it.
Although I do understand they want people to know that they're doing something and that it's got to be advertised.

g jones 10-06-2006 08:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
(Glad this missing thread has reappeared.:))

Take a deep breath Jaysay, but I'm in favour of the leader of our council being involved with this memorial event.

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I for one would be very disappointed if our civic leaders weren't involved with this anniversary, and don't see it as stealing anyone's thunder. In a democracy it's their duty.

I agree Gary. I hope Peter delivers a poignant speech. I believe I will have to speak, so if so, I'll post it first here if I can. I have been thinking about this for a while and it bothers me that time dims the memory.

Gayle 10-06-2006 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
(Glad this missing thread has reappeared.:))

Take a deep breath Jaysay, but I'm in favour of the leader of our council being involved with this memorial event.

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I for one would be very disappointed if our civic leaders weren't involved with this anniversary, and don't see it as stealing anyone's thunder. In a democracy it's their duty.

Yes, can accept that but there were a couple of things that annoyed me which I can't go into. I did point out that I was possibly being childish as I welcomed the additional publicity.

Yes, I too hope that Mr Britcliffe makes a good speech on the day.

cashman 11-06-2006 12:32

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Originally Posted by Gayle
Yes, can accept that but there were a couple of things that annoyed me which I can't go into. I did point out that I was possibly being childish as I welcomed the additional publicity.

Yes, I too hope that Mr Britcliffe makes a good speech on the day.

well said nowt wrong with anyone who can hold their hand up in my book.;) theres many won't gayle.


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