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jaysay 09-06-2006 10:08

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A couple of weeks ago there was a thread regarding the disposal of clinical waste, in effect that HBC had cancelled this collection and such materials would have to be disposed of in the ordinary wheelie bin, that has now been reversed, the council will continue to collect this wast has before. There was also a post about the collection of bulky household items, with no time being given for the removal such items, I have been informed by Peter Britcliffe that this problem is being looked at closely with the intension of giving the people of Hyndburn a better service.

chav1 09-06-2006 17:09

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yup i posted about it and peter acted on it :)

hmmmmmm

coucil tax is way to high and speed bumps should be made of sponge


lets see what happens :D

Neil 09-06-2006 18:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay
A couple of weeks ago there was a thread.....

You can't argue about the power of AccyWeb. I think it is a shame Peter does not come on here himself and talk with us locals. I am sure he could sort out lots of problems and many of us have sensible suggestions.

katex 09-06-2006 22:43

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Hey, that's brill, mightier than the sword eh, Chav ?? Saves me offering my little bit of garden as a landfill sight. Well done kid. :alright:

chav1 10-06-2006 09:10

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Originally Posted by katex
Hey, that's brill, mightier than the sword eh, Chav ?? Saves me offering my little bit of garden as a landfill sight. Well done kid. :alright:

keep that space free katex i may need it if i find out which sh1t smashed my kitchen window :mad:

andrewb 10-06-2006 09:31

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Originally Posted by Neil
You can't argue about the power of AccyWeb. I think it is a shame Peter does not come on here himself and talk with us locals. I am sure he could sort out lots of problems and many of us have sensible suggestions.

I also think it's a shame, however I don't blame him for not coming here, theres lots of people who would jump down his throat and make the whole thing counter productive.

Heck i've been called Hitler for supporting David Cameron, the most center Conservative leader in decades..

Wynonie Harris 10-06-2006 09:42

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Originally Posted by Cyfr
I also think it's a shame, however I don't blame him for not coming here, theres lots of people who would jump down his throat and make the whole thing counter productive.

Heck i've been called Hitler for supporting David Cameron, the most center Conservative leader in decades..

If he can't take the cut-and-thrust of political debate, including banter and "people jumping down his throat", he shouldn't be in politics. Funny, isn't it, how Greg Pope, Graham jones and Gayle Knight are able to come on here and weather the storm?

andrewb 10-06-2006 09:48

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Greg Pope has posted like 10 times to be fair. The others are not held up to scrutiny in such a way that Peter Britcliff would be, and I don't think the way for members of the public to do it is on a forum, theres more formal means such as elections.

Then again I'm not speaking for him, I don't know the guy, infact I wouldn't know his face if I saw him. So he could well come on here and have some political banter ;)

Wynonie Harris 10-06-2006 09:57

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So you don't think that holders of political office should be held up to scrutiny or discuss things with members of the public? God help us if you ever get into power!

Also, the Peter Britcliffe I knew when we both used to play together in the backyard of his mum and dad's off-licence in Willows Lane was more than capable of giving as good as he got!

andrewb 10-06-2006 20:02

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
So you don't think that holders of political office should be held up to scrutiny or discuss things with members of the public? God help us if you ever get into power!

Also, the Peter Britcliffe I knew when we both used to play together in the backyard of his mum and dad's off-licence in Willows Lane was more than capable of giving as good as he got!

If you re-read my post, I said I don't believe a internet forum is the place to personaly scruitinise a council leader no. Express your thoughts sure, but not scruitinise expecting responces on a forum. Theres lots of other ways this can be done as I said in the post :p

Wynonie Harris 10-06-2006 20:30

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Why shouldn't he come on here and explain his policies? You talk about him doing this via "more formal means", but what's wrong with a little informality? Your hero, touchy-feely, user-friendly "Dave" seems to be all for the informal approach!

andrewb 11-06-2006 08:45

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Why should he? I don't know about local government, but im sure you can contact him in the same way you can contact an MP and question him that way.

Perhaps he'd be more happy to do it in person, im not sure. If I was in his shoes, I would not want to argue(because thats what it would be in the end) over an internet forum about policies. It gets people nowhere, because people on the forum will have most likely made up their own idea about something (be it by correct information, false information, loyalty to your supportive party or whatever) and nothing he will say is going to change that.

Wynonie Harris 11-06-2006 09:03

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Originally Posted by Cyfr
I would not want to argue(because thats what it would be in the end) over an internet forum about policies. It gets people nowhere, because people on the forum will have most likely made up their own idea about something

So, going by your theory, there's no point in any of us arguing about any political point on here? OK, you win, I'm not arguing with you any more because you've already made up your mind. Have a nice day.

andrewb 11-06-2006 09:10

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Well there isn't much point no, nobodys going to convince each other they are right, because politics depends on your perception of things I guess.
However, us arguing we are not trying to scuitinise each other or influence decissions because we're not policy making..

Wynonie Harris 11-06-2006 09:18

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So Peter Britcliffe's policies are so flimsy that they can't stand up to a bit of "scutinising" and he's so weak that he'll be influenced by others on here? In that case, Cyfr, you are totally right, he's probably best not joining in the wonderful, wacky world of accyweb!!

garinda 11-06-2006 09:19

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Cyfer you say that you would walk past Peter Britcliffe in the street because you don't know what he looks like. Don't you read the local press? He's pictured in the Observer and the Telegraph more than Chantelle is in the Sun!

Last week he was pictured in the same local press saying that he wants HBC to embrace modern technologies. What better way than to join a local internet forum which people read and use, rather than that expensive lame duck Hyndburn Life?

As for not joining because people have already decided who and what they believe in, he would do well to take a leaf out of Gayle's book. Before she joined, because of the Pantopican, she was the devil incarnate in many people's eyes. Through being open and honest on here people saw her in a different light. Though they might not like her politics, a lot of people then decided she wasn't all that bad and like her a lot, as can be seen by the people of differing political persuasions who defend her against attacks both here and in the press.

If Peter Britcliffe was being honest about embracing modern technology what better way to show the people of the Borough he is leader of than to join Accy Web, just like the leader of the Labour councillors has and our MP Greg Pope? Unless it was all spin to get his picture in the paper yet again.;)

andrewb 11-06-2006 09:24

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Well how many active users are there on this forum? Theres like 3700members, but a lot less are active. It's hardly 'showing the people of the Borough' when only a small percentage actualy use the site, and no I don't really read local press that often, I generaly read the national press..

But anyway at the end of the day as i've said before, I would like him to come here, but i've explained why I wouldn't if I was in his shoes... and thats the last im going to say on the matter :p

Neil 11-06-2006 12:26

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Originally Posted by Cyfr
Well how many active users are there on this forum? Theres like 3700members, but a lot less are active. It's hardly 'showing the people of the Borough' when only a small percentage actualy use the site,

Maybe we would have more active members if they thought they could access the Leader of the Council to answer questions and discussions

andrewb 11-06-2006 13:38

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Everyone can send him letters or whatever, but they don't... so I really don't see how that would make a difference to be honest

Neil 11-06-2006 14:54

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It's just easy on here. No envelopes or stamps etc

andrewb 11-06-2006 16:36

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If the only reason people don't ask him questions is because of a stamp and envelope, then i'd hazard a guess at the issue not being all that important.

On the other hand looking at HBC website he has an email address: [email protected]

chav1 11-06-2006 17:14

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Originally Posted by Cyfr
and thats the last im going to say on the matter :p

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yet you continue to post on this matter lol :D



anyway decision reversed , poop collected , ime happy , nuff said :D

garinda 11-06-2006 18:59

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Originally Posted by chav1
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yet you continue to post on this matter lol :D



anyway decision reversed , poop collected , ime happy , nuff said :D

Can you kindly keep on thread.

Oh, you were.:eek: :p

Gayle 11-06-2006 19:22

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So, Jaysay, despite your best attempts to convince us that you are your own man you're not above posting messages on Peter's behalf.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay
I have been informed by Peter Britcliffe that this problem is being looked at closely with the intension of giving the people of Hyndburn a better service.


andrewb 11-06-2006 19:50

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Originally Posted by chav1
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yet you continue to post on this matter lol :D



anyway decision reversed , poop collected , ime happy , nuff said :D

Oops. Forgot about that... *stops posting* :p


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