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dandare 10-08-2006 22:46

New Subway store!!!!
 
:) I've heard there is a new Subway store coming to Accy town centre.
Any one know where its going to be.
Who's not tried a subway yet? Whats your favourite, mines a Ranch.

andrewb 10-08-2006 23:15

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I can't wait. I love subway, all we need next is a starbucks. :D

Apparently it will be on Union Street (the one wioth kwicksave on). Anyone know when its gonna be opening? I heard about it a few months back now...

shakermaker 11-08-2006 00:09

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Subway? Starbucks?
Bog off.

I hate all these chains with a passion.
What we really need is to get some decent shops back in; I was working around Clitheroe a couple of weeks ago & it's so refreshing not to see Poundlands & phone shops & more chuffing phone shops all over the place! Proper antique shops, materials, arts shops, record shops - you know what I mean. Quirky stuff.
It's the quirkiness that is going to attract people to this town not pretending to be a mini-Manchester & actually coming across as a skanky little wannabe town full of drunks & kids with ASBO'S.

cherokee 11-08-2006 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
Subway? Starbucks?
Bog off.

I hate all these chains with a passion.
What we really need is to get some decent shops back in; I was working around Clitheroe a couple of weeks ago & it's so refreshing not to see Poundlands & phone shops & more chuffing phone shops all over the place! Proper antique shops, materials, arts shops, record shops - you know what I mean. Quirky stuff.
It's the quirkiness that is going to attract people to this town not pretending to be a mini-Manchester & actually coming across as a skanky little wannabe town full of drunks & kids with ASBO'S.


i agree whats going on here ?? i grew up over there and was there till untill a few years back .. i used to so love shopping round accrington was a weekly ritual my mum and me in town each sat ..then came along the arndale ..well that lasted didnt it ?was lovely at first then shopkeepers couldnt afford rents then the last time i was there about 2 yrs ago there was nothing but pound shops and no character accy used to be something to be proud of and then you get an up and coming council that dosent give a damn about what the people want.. must admit blackpool isnt much better ..

steeljack 11-08-2006 01:46

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agree with Shakermaker , chains like Starbucks and Subway are blights on the landscape.
No-way can I imgine anyone in Accrington ordering a Double Ristretto Venti Nonfat Organic Chocolate Brownie Cappuccino Extra Hot with Foam and Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended .

steve 11-08-2006 06:38

never been there?:(

entwisi 11-08-2006 06:51

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Did I mention we have a Starbucks at work? :D

Yep, not 100 ft from my desk, Caramel macchiata, yum yum!

Subway at least they make it there and then for you.

andrewb 11-08-2006 07:39

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I can agree with shakermaker and the rest of you with some aspects, but I don't believe food stores like them have a negative impact like places like poundland do..

green giant 11-08-2006 07:48

re subway
 
mines the meatball speacial excelent sarny :engsmil:

Tealeaf 11-08-2006 08:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack
agree with Shakermaker , chains like Starbucks and Subway are blights on the landscape.
No-way can I imgine anyone in Accrington ordering a Double Ristretto Venti Nonfat Organic Chocolate Brownie Cappuccino Extra Hot with Foam and Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended .

I agree. They would have the decafe version.

yone 11-08-2006 08:10

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Maybe if they brought down the rent and rates ... more local people would be interested in opening up a shop...
However its got to be better than empty shops....

Gayle 11-08-2006 10:12

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The thing is that if groups like Subway and Starbucks come to Accrington it will indicate that there is some investment going into the area. This will instill confidence and encourage smaller, quirky stores to come back to the town.

We can hope!

yone 11-08-2006 11:31

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Be nice if we had a good book store ... and a Next would be fine ( bit too old now for River Island ) Warner Street could and should be made into a specialist street.... there are some great shops on there: but again its the Rent and the Rates that put locals off... how about a discount for local people, trying to start up: just a thought....yone

accymel 11-08-2006 12:11

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Mmmmmmm Accrington is a poundshop & fast food town :confused: not exactly going to bring any reasonable decent kind of retailing to the town is it?? altho i notice that we do have a cash converter in town now so suppose a little improvement of a well known outlet, could do with more like that.

mani 11-08-2006 12:12

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hmmm apparently so - they were recruiting in the telegraph a few weeks ago...

its decent enough. makes a break from the fast food stuff...

shakermaker 11-08-2006 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
I can agree with shakermaker and the rest of you with some aspects, but I don't believe food stores like them have a negative impact like places like poundland do..

No it's not the same as Poundland's effect.
The Subways & Starbucks' of this world make our town look void of any particular presence, of any special worth.
Why go to a small Subway which won't fit enough people in and won't have an up-to-date menu (offers, promotions etc) when the Subway in Burnley is a half an hour bus ride away & offers people the proper version; not a miniaturised embarrasing effort.
Bad idea.

accymel 11-08-2006 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
No it's not the same as Poundland's effect.
The Subways & Starbucks' of this world make our town look void of any particular presence, of any special worth.
Why go to a small Subway which won't fit enough people in and won't have an up-to-date menu (offers, promotions etc) when the Subway in Burnley is a half an hour bus ride away & offers people the proper version; not a miniaturised embarrasing effort.
Bad idea.

Yeh quite true also how many fast food shops does a town this size actually need??? surely not another.

cashman 11-08-2006 12:33

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don,t reckon much to any fast food place, fast fattening i call em, accy needs proper shops,not more of the same.;)

Tealeaf 11-08-2006 12:35

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Is it not time Broadway was renamed? Afterall, it's history goes back only to the 1930's when it was created as a throughfare between Blackburn Road and Whalley Road, with the sunken gardens on one side. It's name suggested it's purpose; with the Odeon cinema, perhaps it cheekily emulated it's New York namesake. Now, to use the trendy political euphemism, it is 'no longer fit for purpose'.

Surely a better name today would be "Charity Row" or "Pound Alley"....maybe even "Britcliffe's Folly". Whatever, the addition of a chain coffee or butty shop will only serve to further it's decline.

cashman 11-08-2006 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Is it not time Broadway was renamed? Afterall, it's history only goes back to the 1930's when it was created as a throughfare between Blackburn Road and Whalley Road, with the sunken gardens on one side. It's name suggested it's purpose; with the Odeon cinema, perhaps it cheekily emulated it's New York namesake. Now, to use the trendy political euphanism, it is 'no longer fit for purpose'.

Surely a better name today would be "Charity Row" or "Pound Alley"....maybe even "Britcliffe's Folly". Whatever, the addition of a chain coffee or butty shop will only serve to further it's decline.

agreed tealeaf,like "Pound Alley"that sounds about right.;)

Margaret Pilkington 11-08-2006 14:12

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I have only had Subway food in Oz....never had any over here.
I agree that chain stores do make all shopping centres look alike....and I wish that Wardleworths was still here.......and YES......I DID buy my books there when it was in Accrington.
I prefer subway to KFC or Mc D's though.

Madhatter 11-08-2006 19:58

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All you'll need then is somwhere decent to eat.
Subway is worse than mcdonalds, all the fillings are prepack and certainly not as fresh as mc donalds food. Your being conned lol
And the bread isn't made fresh in store it's part bake.

Madhatter 11-08-2006 20:00

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Have you ever had a mc donalds baguette margaret?

yone 11-08-2006 20:03

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thinking about going veggie after watching Gordon Ramsey kill the pigs.......
put me off my normal bacon butty: not had meat since: we'll see what happens this Sunday lunch...

Yone

Margaret Pilkington 11-08-2006 20:05

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No MH.....I tend not to eat in these establishments at all. I prefer to come home and make my own butty....and we only had Subway in Oz because we were too far from our apartment to go back. We were in Adelaide at the time and the Subway was in the Rundle Mall. I have to say it tasted just fine....now whether that was because I was out in the fresh air and was hungrier than normal I can't say.

pipinfort 12-08-2006 07:05

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Who's not tried a subway yet? Whats your favourite, mines a Ranch.[/quote]

Veggie Delite all the way!!!!!!!!! mmmmmmmmm i can taste it now, i think its gonna be near coral(bookies) :engsmil: :engsmil: :engsmil:

pipinfort 12-08-2006 07:07

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Britcliffes Folley!!! i`m liking that name, lol

Neil 12-08-2006 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
Why go to a small Subway which won't fit enough people in and won't have an up-to-date menu (offers, promotions etc) when the Subway in Burnley is a half an hour bus ride away & offers people the proper version; not a miniaturised embarrasing effort.

Why? because you can't nip to Burnley and back in your lunch break.

Mick 12-08-2006 08:15

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Its a long way to go just for 1 buttie:)
And if you go on the bus it would be an expensive buttie too

andrewb 12-08-2006 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Madhatter
Have you ever had a mc donalds baguette margaret?

It was nice, but the food poisoning afterwards wasn't so great :(

I had a Chicken and Bacon ranch yesterday in the Lytham subway (see places like lytham manage to have places like subway and still be a thriving town :p)

I prefer the meatballs I think :D

dandare 12-08-2006 09:05

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Originally Posted by shakermaker
"Why go to a small Subway which won't fit enough people in and won't have an up-to-date menu (offers, promotions etc) when the Subway in Burnley is a half an hour bus ride away & offers people the proper version; not a miniaturised embarrasing effort. "


Shakermaker u need to get your facts right as in fact every Subway has to stick to strict standards and regulations which includes all the offers, promo`s etc, as they r all independently run by franchisees.

Why would a brand new store not have an "up to date menu" ?? I would much rather go to somewhere like Subway where you know the hygiene and food standards are excellent, and you know exactly what u r getting.

I recently went to stratford upon avon and the town is full of chains but is absolutely thriving so at the end of the day this is supply and demand, what woukd we rather an old run down town with a few struggling privately owned shops or investment in the town that is providing jobs for the community??

SPUGGIE J 12-08-2006 11:02

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Lets see nice big ranch or steaak bake and vannilla slice uuuuuummmmmmm think it would be the ranch with a coke. Whats wrong with having an alternative to Greggs and Oddies? As for Mcdonalds well I have eaten the baguettes and think they are over priced.

shakermaker 12-08-2006 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dandare
Why would a brand new store not have an "up to date menu" ??

Because the small store wouldn't have the stock space that the one in Burnley has for example; offers & promotions would run out extremely quickly - just what happens in the Accy McD's & the Accy KFC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Why? because you can't nip to Burnley and back in your lunch break.

err...what's wrong with taking your own buttie to work instead munching on a minging grease packed sandwich.

It annoys my that in an age where we are aware of all the health risks around - a privilege unknown by generations before us - that councils are allowing this crap to be served as 'food' in our town & aiding the gross obesity we are beginning to see in a large percentage of our youth.

andrewb 12-08-2006 11:43

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Subway is quite good for you providing you eat the right thing, they specificly state the healthy foods on menus and things inside too.

Its not aiding gross obesity cause some guy did the 'Subway Challenge' type thing (Like mcdonalds supersize me) and lost an awfull lot of weight (although admitidly he exercised too) but the point is its pretty healthy providing you don't pick meatballs with extra cheese every single time you visit ;)

shakermaker 12-08-2006 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
Subway is quite good for you providing you eat the right thing, they specificly state the healthy foods on menus and things inside too.
Its not aiding gross obesity cause some guy did the 'Subway Challenge' type thing (Like mcdonalds supersize me) and lost an awfull lot of weight (although admitidly he exercised too)

'Pretty healthy' compared to McDonald's is really not saying much.:rolleyes:
& that Subway challenge only proves that Subways products are full of empty calories, thus not good for you!

Neil 12-08-2006 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
err...what's wrong with taking your own buttie to work instead munching on a minging grease packed sandwich.

We don't really care which minger you are munching at lunch time ;)

shakermaker 12-08-2006 12:05

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Speak for yourself Neil!

andrewb 12-08-2006 12:06

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Meh I just believe in choice, we don't have to go to subway or mcdonalds if we don't want... but then again there has to be a balance...
E.g. At the moment I have a choice if I go in to poundland or not, but if I continue to do that then eventualy I won't be able to go in to any shops in accrington as they're all going to end up as such shops..

I don't think i've explained that very well :p

Neil 12-08-2006 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
Meh I just believe in choice, we don't have to go to subway or mcdonalds if we don't want... but then again there has to be a balance...
E.g. At the moment I have a choice if I go in to poundland or not, but if I continue to do that then eventualy I won't be able to go in to any shops in accrington as they're all going to end up as such shops..

I don't think i've explained that very well :p

What on earth did that that mean mate ;)

shakermaker 12-08-2006 12:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
Meh I just believe in choice, we don't have to go to subway or mcdonalds if we don't want...

That's the case until people get addicted to this crap. (as proved by morgan spurlock)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
E.g. At the moment I have a choice if I go in to poundland or not, but if I continue to do that then eventualy I won't be able to go in to any shops in accrington as they're all going to end up as such shops..

I see what you're trying to say & I agree, & that is the danger that our town faces.
No, not that I agree with you - that all the shops in Accy are going to turn out taccy, bland, and an overwhelming eyesore. Poundland, Poundstretcher, poundshrinker...it's like Laurence Llewellyn Bowen's hall of fame.

SPUGGIE J 12-08-2006 14:58

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If you can get addicted to fast food then I am addicted to the hot cooked chicken from Supermarkets. At the end of the day if you vary were you go for a sarnie burger takeaway etc then it shouldnt do you any harm if its in mderation.

bullseyebarb 12-08-2006 17:18

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Reference Starbucks.....why would you want to pay so much for a cup of coffee? Especially those sickly sweet things with the whipped cream!

Margaret Pilkington 12-08-2006 19:25

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The new Subway shop is going to be situated in Union Street where the now defunct Sue Ryder shop used to be.

Margaret Pilkington 12-08-2006 19:26

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I don't know about over here, but in Oz they are very health conscious and they state which of their products is low calorie, low fat etc....so at the end of the day, it is down to taste and choice.

david niv 12-08-2006 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
The new Subway shop is going to be situated in Union Street where the now defunct Sue Ryder shop used to be.

I'm looking forward to it.
Its good fresh food, gives us more choice and helps keep Accy busy.

Madhatter 13-08-2006 22:19

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So your getting a Subway instead of a charity shop. Thats a good deal isn't it?
Mc Donalds are exellent quality and very very clean as are subway, the kitchens are open you can see how clean they are.
Mc Donalds have also added a lot of new products and improved old ones since supersize me. There were no salads or baguettes back then, no apples and no carrot sticks or milk.

Gayle is right of course, these are key national stores, they encourage other nationals, which you want a certain amount of in Accrington. They do this because companies know that they encourage families into the town. Kids like fasr food as a treat, you can't get away from that fact, and parents will take them where those outlets are, even if it meant travelling to blackburn.
I'm trying to get a Mc Donalds here but no one will listen :(

steeljack 13-08-2006 22:26

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Guess the UK McDonalds libel trial had some positive effects , pity it didn't get the same media coverage it deserved here in the US , Here McDonalds are still serving up the same super-sized junk

shakermaker 13-08-2006 22:28

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Madhatter - you know aswell as anyone that carrott sticks & apple pieces aren't desirable for the kids; they're only there to keep the Food Standards Agency happy.

I'm sorry but to me with these stores, whatever size their products are; it's all commercial plastic junk that makes towns look bland & lifeless.

Madhatter 13-08-2006 22:54

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Desirable to me though, I love carrot sticks.
They are what they are Shakermaker, an I think You see that better than anyone on here. They are fast food, not what I'd class as real food. You do need real food outlets too. They may be bland and lifeless but they attract people, but not if all you've got is Mc ds and a subway, you need other shops too.
I always think of them as plastic stores, you expect them, but don't really respect them.

Madhatter 13-08-2006 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack
Guess the UK McDonalds libel trial had some positive effects , pity it didn't get the same media coverage it deserved here in the US , Here McDonalds are still serving up the same super-sized junk

LOL thats cos we respect ourselves and don't wanna gorge ourselves on supersized junk everyday. It's all about customer demand, not libel. If stuff doesn't sell, they stop stocking it, simple as. Quite a few things have gone off the menu here.
Salads might not be as popular as a bic mac but they are popular as are the baguettes.
I like a chicken ranch salad with a nice cup of tea, or a chicken baguette with a cuppa.
Also nice is a side salad with vinegarette dressing and chicken nuggets.

morgan_brotherz 13-08-2006 23:02

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I worked at McDonalds for two weeks. It was unbelievably clean and their hygiene [sp?] was fantastic. Its suprising how they keep on top of the cleaning etc.

You will be suprised!!

mani 15-08-2006 14:08

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wahay just seen where they're building the new store - its in a good place - wud've worked better on broadway but its all good

Madhatter 15-08-2006 14:11

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Can I destroy it on the accrington flight sim though?

mani 15-08-2006 14:41

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i dont think it exists yet

ploppysirploppy 15-08-2006 19:44

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To be perfectly honest I don't think McDonalds is in the same league as Subway.....Subway serve fresh healthy sandwiches...McDonalds is just fatty greasy junk food. Has no one ever looked under the paper place mats and looked at their meal's content... it's kind of unreal... and I couldn't actually believe my it when I heard a couple of girls were suing McDonalds for making them obese...and won...that is the most stupid thing i've ever heard.

Lea
x

chav1 15-08-2006 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy
Subway serve fresh healthy sandwiches...
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if you consider re heated microwaved food healthy then yes they do :)

ploppysirploppy 15-08-2006 20:25

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A lot more healthy than a greasy burger.
Lea
x

Margaret Pilkington 15-08-2006 20:45

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Mc D's served salads in Spain way back in the 80's.........I know because I used to take my Ma in there for a garden salad with Marie Rose sauce on it.......it was the only thing I would eat from their establishment.

morgan_brotherz 15-08-2006 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy
A lot more healthy than a greasy burger.
Lea
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If you know the slightest detail of the process of producing the 'greasy' burgers at McDonalds (which im taking it you dont) you would know that all the excess 'grease/fat' whatever you wish to call it, is drained before being placed for the customer.

So thats one 100% Beef, drained of fat and grease burger. Thanks. :D

I would agrue that 'Subway' is far to overpriced for what you get. Its probably cheaper to buy a loaf of bread, a whole chicken breast and a fresh salad from th'Asda than buy a Chicken 'Roll' at Subway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chav1
if you consider re heated microwaved food healthy then yes they do

Valid point. I believe Subway have their 'fresh' rolls delivered boxed up, frozen from a depot, probably some day journey in the back of a van away. Which is then heated in the microwave to be served 'freshly' to the paying customer.

So thats one frozen, re-heated chicken sandwitch served on a previously hard, now gone soggy roll. Thanks. :D

chav1 15-08-2006 21:39

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subway also chuck the meat into the microwave as well as the roll

dont get me wrong after a few pints it tastes better than a kebab but as a rule i dont eat microwaved food especialy meat

unless drunk as stated above :-)

sarah 16-08-2006 02:26

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I for one think that this is excellent news. I'm just disappointed that I don't work in Accrington centre anymore. Coming home last night from Preston, I came through Blackburn and I noticed that there is a Subway that has appeared on Preston New Road.

When I still lived in Manchester, a Subway butty was a regular part of my diet, and is something I have missed. The range is fabulous. Something for everyone.

Madhatter 16-08-2006 03:20

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It is sarah, but it is what it is. just that same as mc d's nice in moderation but no healthier really.

entwisi 16-08-2006 05:13

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That subway at The Petrol station top of montague street has been there ages as well.

sarah 16-08-2006 06:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi
That subway at The Petrol station top of montague street has been there ages as well.

Sorry. Never spotted it before. Good to know now however that it is.

lindsay ormerod 16-08-2006 17:47

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It's gonna struggle to compete with the "Up Market" butty van on the outside market;absolute quality food from there;continental chicken wrap a speciality which is great value and healthy too.

SPUGGIE J 16-08-2006 19:56

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Lindsay I will take your word for that as I aint tried it but will next time I am down. :D

dandare 16-08-2006 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by morgan_brotherz

Valid point. I believe Subway have their 'fresh' rolls delivered boxed up, frozen from a depot, probably some day journey in the back of a van away. Which is then heated in the microwave to be served 'freshly' to the paying customer.

Actually I believe that yes the dough comes in frozen but is then baked fresh daily and this in no way would compensate the quality.

They will only microwave a sandwich if requested by a customer, mostly they are cold with a hot filling or the whole sandwich is toasted (which i.m.o. is much nicer)

ploppysirploppy 16-08-2006 22:55

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I find it funny how 'morgan_brotherz' insists on having a dig at me...... and even revealed on another post that he knows me by showing my initials and calling me.....i only know one person who 'worked' in McDonalds for 2 weeks and petty enough call me on another post.....we didn't get along...i wonder why....
Lea
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morgan_brotherz 16-08-2006 23:10

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I find it funny how ploppysirploppy can call someone 'petty' for calling her on a post, when she was involved in a relitavely huge argument in a thread with a few other members a couple of weeks ago. Lottery Dream? Or is that not considered petty?

morgan_brotherz 16-08-2006 23:13

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Ive decided im going to call a truce. I cba arguing with you if were both going to be coming on this site. We wont get anywhere.

So forget it.

shakermaker 17-08-2006 00:17

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Get a grip children.
It's just a buttie shop.

Madhatter 17-08-2006 01:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dandare
Actually I believe that yes the dough comes in frozen but is then baked fresh daily and this in no way would compensate the quality.

They will only microwave a sandwich if requested by a customer, mostly they are cold with a hot filling or the whole sandwich is toasted (which i.m.o. is much nicer)

If its frozen quality has to be less than if it were freshly made, which its not.
Freshly defrosted part baked dough which is then freshly finished off baking in store does not constitute fresh in my opinion. It's all word play by these stores, not that it's going to kill you, but baked fresh just means that, it's been finished off in the oven god knows how many days after it was originally prepared and started to be baked.
It's like me putting a can of heinz soup on the stove and saying it's freshly cooked.

Madhatter 17-08-2006 01:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy
I find it funny how 'morgan_brotherz' insists on having a dig at me...... and even revealed on another post that he knows me by showing my initials and calling me.....i only know one person who 'worked' in McDonalds for 2 weeks and petty enough call me on another post.....we didn't get along...i wonder why....
Lea
x

Are you ex's :D

shakermaker 17-08-2006 01:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ploppysirploppy
I find it funny how 'morgan_brotherz' insists on having a dig at me...... and even revealed on another post that he knows me by showing my initials and calling me.....i only know one person who 'worked' in McDonalds for 2 weeks and petty enough call me on another post.....we didn't get along...i wonder why....
Lea
x

If that ain't proof that McDonalds just ain't any good for ya, I don't know what is :rolleyes:

lettie 17-08-2006 09:42

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I tend to avoid all of these fast food places like the plague and doubt that I'll ever visit the local Subway. McDonalds is dire... My sister worked in one for several years whilst she was at Uni and became quite senior for a part timer. Some of the stories she used to tell about McD's would not surprise you.....yes they were clean, but that's about all. KFC is horrible and greasy and the last time I had a Sub (in New Zealand) it was fairly tasteless.

We have loads of independant local bakeries and butty shops, many of which do use fresh ingredients, bake their own breads, pies etc. In my opinion these places are far superior to the fast food chains both in quality and taste. The only problem with the chains is that they tend to advertise 'fresh' ingredients. Anyone with a couple of brain cells knows that there is a difference between fresh (made from scratch on the day) and fresh frozen (made a couple of weeks ago and heated or baked when required). The 'fresh' referred to by the chains is generally 'fresh frozen.' This also applies to pub chains eg Brewers Fayre where all of the meals are delivered frozen to the pubs then microwaved as they're ordered.

Give me a tasty independant establishment anyday.... they win hands down in my opinion. I love and appreciate good food and find it difficult to believe that millions of supposedly sensible people have been conned into thinking that fast food chains are actually good..:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 17-08-2006 10:10

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I suspect the "Fresh" refers to the soggy tomato, cucumber & lettuce these places use to pad out their butties. Its no big secret and if some of the independant shops around Accy were to use the same method and vary their base ingrediants a little more then they would have little to fear from the likes of Subway.

Madhatter 17-08-2006 11:19

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Some ingredients are frozen at brewers fayre some is prepack, like the steaks, obviously the pie isnt microwaved or the chips, but you can tell it's not fresh, it's not like a carvery.

entwisi 17-08-2006 12:48

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I worked in BF for nearly 7 years. Some meals were frozen, some were cooked on site, yes they were chilled and reheated but most restaurants (irrespective of 'quality') use a cook chill process, it used to be if it was main menu it was generally supplied as is, specials boards were the fresh cooked stuff.

One point that seems to be getting missed is that from the minute veg are picked they start to lose their vitamins etc. Freezing maintains these so that you are getting pretty much teh levels that thay had when picked, fresh veg on teh other hand can be anything up to a week old by the time you buy it then it sits in your fridge for a few days. Not really that good for it IMHO. Similarly with fish and meat, there is no 'damage' done to the structure of the meat so whats the problem. I'd rather know it was defrosted a few hours before it was cooked for me than to think it could have been sat in a fridge for 3-4 days.

Madhatter 17-08-2006 14:15

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most of the veg at bf is vile, it's under cooked and tastless, I wouldn't give it an animal. I always ask for a nice salad garnish. Some bf are better than others.
Tamworth went through a bad patch, and we complained that much that the manager asked us why we keep coming back if all we do is moan. We had quite a long and embarrasing discussion about quality, why we go there, that we used to like the meals, that it's local to us, and that we shouldn't need to stop going or complain. We should get a full, well cooked, hot meal, not half a one with bits missing (something that still happens) not cold, not burnt. I one had a steak and ale pie that was frozen inside. I also explained I was doing him a favour as we visited many dozens bf while traveling the country and didn't give them a chance, we just went to head office.
After that things improved, the problem is though that if you complain, you don't know whats happening to your food next time you go, there's some sick people about.

Our local co-op is the same, I've recently pulled the manager about dried cold food. He said the trouble is it's not selling it's just sitting there, to which i replied i'm not suprised, who'd want to eat it. It's in their interest for it to be right, and in your to tell them if it's not.

entwisi 17-08-2006 14:52

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Don't blame the veg for the lack of skill by the chef. If anytyhing I would guess that teh veg is more likely to be overcooked than undercooked as its difficult to undercook veg and make it tasteless.

Tealeaf 17-08-2006 15:01

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I dunno how you lot would react to the Jap Canteens....there are several chains down here, one on every street in the City, all serving up the same type of Jap grub...tiny portions of raw fish and raw veg wrapped up in sticky rice...at about 4/5 quid a go. You need about 3 lots to feel full. The only thing that resembles 'owt English is dumplings in a soup - and I think they come smothered in seaweed.

andrewb 17-08-2006 15:45

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I ate a subway today and im about to have a mcdonalds, according to this thread im going to curl over and die tonight :p

katex 17-08-2006 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
I ate a subway today and im about to have a mcdonalds, according to this thread im going to curl over and die tonight :p

Well at least you will die happy Cyfr after yer' exam results today :D .. so go for it ... celebrate.

shakermaker 17-08-2006 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyfr
I ate a subway today and im about to have a mcdonalds, according to this thread im going to curl over and die tonight :p

More like roll over mate :rolleyes::D

Madhatter 20-08-2006 20:35

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Awww cyfr it's been nice knowing you, may you rest in accyweb peace, and don't worry you have left a lasting reminder to your existance by way of your accyweb plug in.

was it death by big mac or quarter pounder?

andrewb 21-08-2006 07:33

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Quarter Pounder of course :p

garinda 21-08-2006 08:59

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I'm not that keen on every high street in the world being inhabited by the same global stores, but according to the lovely Kirsty Allsop on Location, Location, Location, the arrival of the coffee shops means investors see an area as being on the way up. This is the same programme that this year listed Hyndburn as being in the top ten places in the UK that were a good place to buy, and that had seen the biggest property price increases last year.


Skinny Latte to go please.:)

CASPER 21-08-2006 09:12

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I think coffee shops are great.
Ice cream parlour next, please!

SPUGGIE J 21-08-2006 09:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda
I'm not that keen on every high street in the world being inhabited by the same global stores, but according to the lovely Kirsty Allsop on Location, Location, Location, the arrival of the coffee shops means investors see an area as being on the way up. This is the same programme that this year listed Hyndburn as being in the top ten places in the UK that were a good place to buy, and that had seen the biggest property price increases last year.


Skinny Latte to go please.:)

If it is a good place to buy with nice returns on investment then why is the town centre not benifiting? If there is to be a Subway does that mean Accy has reache an acceptable level for people to move in or is it a bit of bait to reel them in?

Madhatter 21-08-2006 17:02

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lol subway are not actually that popular compared to mc d's, there's a subway at birchwood by the qvc outlet shop and its always empty. so is the one in liverpool on Sefton Road and I've yet to see more than on person in the one at Nuneaton


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