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I said French culture, not law wasn't secular.
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"France is hardly secular, it's whole culture is grained in........" you didn't say "French culture is secular" That's two very different things. The statement My statement "France is a secular state" remains a true statement of fact, as the French State itself says below Source : PRIME MINISTER / Legal and Technical Office of Information and Communication http://www.ambafrance-us.org/atoz/religion.asp Pub time, see what happens when you dissect a post.....anyway that's the end of that. France is a secular state with a Catholic culture. J'en ai assez maintenant et je m'en vais. |
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Is this the same secular State that has elected National Front members of parliament, and recently had race riots in Paris this summer?
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Riots happen a lot in Frogland. I used to live there. Doesn't take much to start them off! young people farmers taxi drivers students public officials / civil servants Have all been manning the barricades and following a banner at some point in the last 5 years. It's the standard Gallic jump-up-and-down-until-the-government-bottles-it line of thought! |
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Very secular.;) |
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I've no problem with you asking Kash the question, I just thought it was very unfair of Jambutty to remark on him not answering when he may have had better things to do than come on Accy Web. The fact that so called Christians wouldn't report terrorists that they knew were planning atrocities, is an even sadder comment on religion full stop, regardless of motive. |
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Goodness, someone who doesn't call me a ****** for having my own mind. Thank you.:) Have some karma. |
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I didn't quote the whole post tal, it was too long but that's pretty powerful stuff. I don't believe anyone in power in the UK would have the nerve to say something like that. They would undoubtedly be applauded for saying it if they did but then there would be a backlash - by the people who take political correctness too far. I know I get accused of being PC (well, Tealeaf accuses me regularly) but the thing is that all I believe in is tolerance on both sides and I totally agree with the sentiment that if you can't accept tolerance then you're in the wrong place. It works both ways! I think it needs someone like Blair or Cameron (could be an election winner if he made a strong stand on this) to say it. They would then have to actually act on it though and I think that's where they've made the mistake in the past. |
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It is magnanimous of you to stick up for kash garinda but he joined this discussion of his own free will. Yet he tried to claim the moral high ground for Islam, not just for himself, so whether he likes it or not he is fighting the Islam corner.
He was asked a question (would he shop a fellow Muslim if he KNEW that someone was planning an atrocity?) and has not responded to it. Could it be that the question was too awkward to answer truthfully? If Eid were to be the first Holy day to be declared a Public Holiday then it would establish a precedent and our weak and appeasing government would meekly allow more. Quite rightly the CBI would object to all the extra Bank Holidays and to try to appease them the spineless government would have to remove some of our traditional Bank Holidays to maintain the status quo. We cannot allow that to happen. Muslims asking for their own Holy days being declared Bank Holidays is the thin end of the wedge. Are Good Friday and Easter Monday public holidays in Islamic countries? There is more to Christianity than the Church of England CusCus. Catholics, Methodists, Anglicans, Presbyterian, Jehovah Witnesses to name just a few. If we were to allow each religion to take its own Holy days off work it would create chaos in commerce and industry. Whether anyone likes it or not, in the eyes of the world, the UK is a Christian country and as such immigrants of whatever religious persuasion have to conform to our traditions and not try to impose their own on us. |
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When Kash returns we will get a reply wether for ill or not. At the moment we can only postulate on any answer or answers he might give.
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