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chav1 28-08-2006 18:08

15 year old girl struk with tazar gun in blackburn
 
just heard on the local news on the radio that a 15 year old girl was shot with a tazar gun in blackburn because she was holding a knife at somones throat

i dont have a problem with the police's use of force but as expected the usual crowd are already complaining that a 15 year old girl has been shot with a tazar gun :mad:

well done to the police :)

edit :

knowing my sodding luck after postingt this it will turn out she didnt speak english and it wasnt a damn knife or somat lol

jimmi5bellies 28-08-2006 18:43

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Good on the police ! Its about time they started to get tougher on these teens that think they are above the law.

ploppysirploppy 28-08-2006 19:31

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Excellent.......who cares if it's a 15 year old girl........she had a knife to someone's throat....HELLOOOOOOO
Lea
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panther 28-08-2006 19:32

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must be on drugs!
:signwier: they all need a bloody good hiding!

Basher 28-08-2006 20:26

I agree, enough farting about trying to be nice after all, it's getting this country nowhere.

It was a warranted use of force and I for one applaud them :engsmil:

katex 28-08-2006 20:29

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What's a tazar gun ???? :rolleyes:

Neil 28-08-2006 20:39

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It fires 2 little pin's that stick in your skin, they are connected by thin wires to the tazar which gives you a paralising electric shock to imobilise the victim

katex 28-08-2006 20:50

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Originally Posted by Neil
It fires 2 little pin's that stick in your skin, they are connected by thin wires to the tazar which gives you a paralising electric shock to imobilise the victim

Eeeew .. could make use of that one.

Seriously though, sounds like this girl was a real threat to her victim and obviously this gun would do very little harm permanently and probably saved a very serious situation. Up the Men In Blue :engsmil:

cashman 28-08-2006 21:52

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me and paris watched it on the news and we both said well done (for once) the police if you play with weapons you pay the price.;)

BLACKBURN RAVER 28-08-2006 22:02

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LINK....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/5292184.stm


reading between the lines id suggest something a bit more sinister was afoot :confused: :eek:

katex 28-08-2006 22:08

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
LINK....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/5292184.stm


reading between the lines id suggest something a bit more sinister was afoot :confused: :eek:

Ok BR .. even if it could suggest was a defensive situation to her in the first place ?? Is this what you are inferring ? seems to have been the best action by the police at the time.

cashman 28-08-2006 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
LINK....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/5292184.stm


reading between the lines id suggest something a bit more sinister was afoot :confused: :eek:

saw the guy and his mate on the news an they looked 3 slices short of a loaf and i thought theres more to this, but it matters not- put a knife to someones throat an you deserve what comes! whats a 15 year old girl or anyone for that matter doing up preston new road with a knife?

BLACKBURN RAVER 28-08-2006 22:19

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agree with what the police did but what i was trying to refer to was as to why she was holding a knife to his throat in the first place ....:confused:...

its not something that is done lightly really is it ?....there must have been a just reason for her doing it

BLACKBURN RAVER 28-08-2006 22:20

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Originally Posted by cashman
whats a 15 year old girl or anyone for that matter doing up preston new road with a knife?

whats a 15 yr old girl doing in a garage with a grown man :confused: .....

cashman 28-08-2006 22:28

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
agree with what the police did but what i was trying to refer to was as to why she was holding a knife to his throat in the first place ....:confused:...

its not something that is done lightly really is it ?....there must have been a just reason for her doing it

carrying a knife is ok then?

BLACKBURN RAVER 28-08-2006 22:31

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Originally Posted by cashman
carrying a knife is ok then?

how do you know she was carrying it ? it could well have been in the garage !!!....big differance :rolleyes:

katex 28-08-2006 22:43

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER
how do you know she was carrying it ? it could well have been in the garage !!!....big differance :rolleyes:

Think you two now missing the original point here by Chav >>>> just the criticism of the police in the way they diffused a situation at the time irrespective of the circumstances, which I am sure will come out later.

Ber999T 29-08-2006 01:31

I think Police have a bad enough job and will say well done in using "friendly" force to defuse the situation without having to use "deadly force".

Yes there are several questions as to why a 15yo Female was in a Petrol station on Bank Top, not Preston New Rd, which is within the "red light" area of Blackburn.

Why did she have a knife and why was she holding it to someones throat??

I dare say thing are yet to come out about this situation and maybe we'll have to wait and see if it goes to court for anymore information

chav1 29-08-2006 09:56

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good job they had a tazar because the othr alternative would be bullets..

they could have used rubber bullets but if indeed this did happen in the red light district they would have all wanted shooting :D

jambutty 29-08-2006 10:22

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All I can see between the lines BLACKBURN RAVER is white space.

It wasn’t up Preston New Road cashman it was Whalley Banks that eventually becomes Preston Old Road.

If this girl was a victim of the man somehow and was only defending herself then once the police were on the scene she would have just given herself up. Wouldn’t she? As it is she threatened to stab the man – allegedly - so that makes her the aggressor and thus the police were quite correct to subdue her and make an arrest.

However, the girl, who cannot be named, has been charged with making threats to kill, actual bodily harm, false imprisonment and possession of a knife.

Police said she will appear before Blackburn Youth Court on Tuesday.

So that scuttles any thoughts of “between the lines” thinking.

AccyJay 29-08-2006 11:29

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Totally agree with the police (for once). The alternative was to use deadly force, if they had done that & somebody was killed or seriously injured everyone would be saying that they should have used a Tazor. Damned if do, damned if they don't. The police don't have the luxury of hindsight.

http://www.AccyJay.piczo.com/

grannyclaret 29-08-2006 11:38

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Sounds like a nice normal girl to me,,,,,,,That is according to todays generation... !!!!!! BRING BACK THE BIRCH!!!!!!!

AccyJay 29-08-2006 11:50

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret
Sounds like a nice normal girl to me,,,,,,,That is according to todays generation... !!!!!! BRING BACK THE BIRCH!!!!!!!

I'm a bit young to remember the "Birch", but, i think a lot of the problems stem from a lack of discpline at home & at school (although most teachers hands are tied by european laws). My mum caught me with a knife when i was 15 years old (35 now), she phoned the police herself, who, took the knife off me & gave me a stern talking to. When they left my mum gave me a really good hiding because of the embaressment of having the police at the front door. Top woman, well done mum, i never did it again.


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grannyclaret 29-08-2006 12:00

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
. My mum caught me with a knife when i was 15 years old (35 now), she phoned the police herself, who, took the knife off me & gave me a stern talking to. When they left my mum gave me a really good hiding because of the embaressment of having the police at the front door. Top woman, well done mum, i never did it again.


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yep., your mum is just the sort neaded today..if only there were more like her:)

accymel 29-08-2006 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyJay
I'm a bit young to remember the "Birch", but, i think a lot of the problems stem from a lack of discpline at home & at school (although most teachers hand are tied by european laws). My mum caught me with a knife when i was 15 years old (35 now), she phoned the police herself, who, took the knife off me & gave me a stern talking to. When they left my mum gave me a really good hiding because of the embaressment of having the police at the front door. Top woman, well done mum, i never did it again.


Unfortunately even parents hands are tied now with all the kids rights, smacking is frowned upon although didnt do me any harm & certainly didnt do wrong again but these days they wonder why youths run a mock although most do the dicipline too late rather than affirming right & wrong from when they are little. Tv/ films/games & music play a role in encouraging a violent culture & acceptance, plus also alcohol & drugs readily available to youngsters plus they know they can get away with it also kids today are clued up on rights & know how to use it .............................Gee i wouldnt want to be a teenager again bad enough 1st time round hehehehe:D

So i do agree with the police in their course of action!! She cannot be above the law even if she had justifications of being driven to doing what she did, she should of let the police deal with those matters than taking it upon herself as now she finds she's in trouble rather than could be other way round, sorry taking the law into your own hands does not go down well with the law certainly not pre-meditated as act of self defence!

Margaret Pilkington 29-08-2006 14:47

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If I had been that 15 year old girl....the tazar would have been nothing to the hiding I would have got from my parents.
My Dad only had to give me one of those 'just you dare' looks and I knew I had gone too far.
Well said Accymel....you've hit the nail on the head!

I don't think that capital punishment(in the right context) does any harm, and it lets children know that there are consequences to their actions.

Less 29-08-2006 16:15

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't think that capital punishment(in the right context) does any harm, and it lets children know that there are consequences to their actions.

Psst Margaret, I think you mean Corporal Punishment, Capital Punishment is when they hang people and that would certainly stop anyone (not just children), from doing it again, I'm all for tightening justice but perhaps before we re-introduce the rope, the cane or the birch might just be considered a less severe punishment? or maybe something from the Continent?
:behead:

West Ender 29-08-2006 16:18

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Please please, Margaret, say you meant Corporal Punishment and not Capital. :eek: I'm all for a good clout (my kids got the odd one - rarely, but if it was really necessary it happened) and so did I but I think hanging's going a bit far.

garinda 29-08-2006 16:20

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According to tonight's LET she will have appeared before Blackburn Magistrates today charged with making threats to kill, assault, unlawful imprisonment, and having an offensive weapon in public.

Good on the police.

Neil 29-08-2006 17:48

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Can we get Chav arrested for having an offensive personality? ;)

katex 29-08-2006 17:58

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Originally Posted by Neil
Can we get Chav arrested for having an offensive personality? ;)

Worth a try :D

At least he has hidden depths which show a good sense of justice and support of our local police here, good on you Chav xx

accymel 29-08-2006 18:13

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Originally Posted by katex
Chav. At least he has hidden depths


:eek: i dont think we wanna know nor see his hidden depths:eek: :eek: :D

katex 29-08-2006 18:24

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Originally Posted by accymel
:eek: i dont think we wanna know nor see his hidden depths:eek: :eek: :D

Mmmmm .. maybe yer' right here, wanted to give us a viewing t'other night :D .. ok .. off subject, but think nothing else left to say anyway on this until we know more anyway.

accymel 29-08-2006 18:28

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Originally Posted by katex
Mmmmm .. maybe yer' right here, wanted to give us a viewing t'other night :D .. ok .. off subject, but think nothing else left to say anyway on this until we know more anyway.

Yeh he was certainly on one as per usual :D pmsl

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 19:18

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Better to be zapped than shot as in some countries. Society as it is is partly to blame and so could some of the laws that have been introduced.

Margaret Pilkington 29-08-2006 20:34

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Yes, I did mean corporal punishment.......it was just a freudian slip....I think!

Capital punishment would certainly lead to fewer feral kids on the streets though.

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 20:37

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She will have her day in court and be potrade as a victim. End result a slap on the rist and therepy as is the norm.

Debbie J 29-08-2006 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accymel
Unfortunately even parents hands are tied now with all the kids rights, smacking is frowned upon although didnt do me any harm & certainly didnt do wrong again but these days they wonder why youths run a mock although most do the dicipline too late rather than affirming right & wrong from when they are little. way round, sorry taking the law into your own hands does not go down well with the law certainly not pre-meditated as act of self defence!


The other day my 8 year old threatened to 'get me done' by the police. He was being a real pain and it was one of those rare occasions he was pushing me too far. I told him if he carried on he would be getting a leathering (He rarely gets a smack) quick as a flash he said, 'if you do that I'll get you done for criminal damage'!
While he had the wrong charge I was quite surprised that he knew I could be in trouble for smacking him.

SPUGGIE J 29-08-2006 21:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Debbie J
The other day my 8 year old threatened to 'get me done' by the police. He was being a real pain and it was one of those rare occasions he was pushing me too far. I told him if he carried on he would be getting a leathering (He rarely gets a smack) quick as a flash he said, 'if you do that I'll get you done for criminal damage'!
While he had the wrong charge I was quite surprised that he knew I could be in trouble for smacking him.

There in lies a large part of tthe problems we have today.


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