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TAZ 02-10-2003 19:11

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sleepwalking and sleeptalking what's all that about is it in your genes it gets me in so much trouble and i never win a fight?

littlemo 02-10-2003 21:07

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dop you really want to know about this? don't forget, I work in this field and could rabbit on for hours about it!

HarryX 02-10-2003 21:16

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littlemo how are you on nightmares?

littlemo 03-10-2003 23:35

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I married one, is that what you mean?!!!! ;D

Mik Dickinson 05-10-2003 10:18

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I reckon its all to do with the subconscious but am willing to be educated on this subject

littlemo 05-10-2003 11:11

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I don't really get into analising dreams but can tell you that we dream in all sleep stages. our most vivid is REM, this is when the body goes into a state of paralysis, other wise we would be acting them out! most sleep walking, talking ect occurs in slow wave sleep, which is the deepest stage.

Caz 05-10-2003 11:32

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Any information on sleep paralysis littlemo?
Why does it seem to happen to some people (me included) on a fairly regular basis?
:) :)

littlemo 05-10-2003 20:46

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umm cazzer, is it when you wake up in the morning and how long does it last for?

Caz 05-10-2003 21:10

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No, it's usually in the middle of the night, when I've been asleep quite a while.
Can't move at all, can't talk, but can see. Plus get this scary feeling that something is not quite right, like someone in the house or something like that.
Try to get out of it, but more often than not, cos I'm so tired I fall back asleep.
when I first told my family this they said I dreamt it, until they heard of others with the same thing.

Usually seems to be 5 mins or so.
:) :)

Jo 06-10-2003 07:38

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A similar thing happens to me regularly Cazzer. I half open my eyes and the shadows and shapes in the room seem like people. Then I realise what's happening and I bolt upright and scream usually. Frighten my hubby to death. After years of this, I began telling myself, after seeing the things or people, "come on Jo, you know they're not really there", then I open my eyes and see they were really there and then I think "God this time it's really true". The dreams have now advanced and I don't see people but I open my my eyes and think I'm dead.
Same process "come on Jo, you're not dead" then I think "Oh, God, this ime I really am".
The other night I got out of bed and went into the living room where my hubby was watching a game of footy (I'd gone to bed early) to ask him (seriously) if I was alive!!!!!
Weird eh?

HarryX 06-10-2003 08:54

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Jo Cazzer.. Anyone.....Try www.sleepnet.com I ahve had sleep problems all my life and have been diagnosed with everyhting from epilepsy to sleep terrors.

Seems my body and my brain go to sleep at different times:)

Try the forums on the above site. explain your problems and believe me you will have loads of people from around the world replying wiht exactly the same problems

I last used this site..hmm must be a few years ago now.. so its well established..

Jo 06-10-2003 09:47

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Great thanks Harry!  :)

littlemo 06-10-2003 12:26

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and do any of you suffer from cataplexy, thats when you can be laughing say and then you just pass out? sleepnet.com is a good one harry, I use that often, but at the end of the day, you should really talk to your doctor. Sleep paralysis can be part of something bigger such as narcolopsy. This would be confirmed by a particular test that would be completed in a sleep lab, well It would over here, I don't know about over there. I think there is a lab at withenshaw hospital I do believe

littlemo 06-10-2003 12:31

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Cazzer, it usually happens at the end of a REM period which occurs at the end of every sleep cycle which last around 90 mins. so it can happen during the night but is most common first thing in the morning as that is your longest rem period. When in REM, you body is in a state of paralysis, what happens is almost like your mind being awake before your body, and your eyes being open before you finished dreaming. Would that fit the description?

Tealeaf 06-10-2003 12:37

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How do you know you sleepwalk?

littlemo 06-10-2003 12:38

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usually you wake up in a different place! or someone else tells you the next day!

Tealeaf 06-10-2003 12:46

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Oh dear. I think I might be in serious trouble then.

HarryX 06-10-2003 12:54

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Lots of sleeplabs in america.. Hardly any here.. the nearest one to Accy is indeed in Manchester.. But its a long process before you get to that... Scans and Nuerologists ect


Caz 06-10-2003 17:48

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No cataplexy, littlemo.
What you describe is pretty much it, apart from knowing I'm awake and not dreaming. the paralysis on its own would not seem so bad, if it weren't for the strange feelings, which are so often of a presence somewhere.
Seems this is a pretty common part of the condition.  :)

littlemo 07-10-2003 01:08

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If you where over here you'd be getting investigated for narcolopsy. Basically it's a serious of naps we do during the day. Narcolopsy is basically your sleep cycle in reverse, REM comes at the begining not the end if this occurs 2 out 5 short naps then you would be diagnosed with the condition. What your decribing (sleep paralysis) is easy to brush off as something in your head so to speak when it isn't!

Dizzy D 07-10-2003 07:05

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Gosh, i feel really lucky!  All i do is sleep talk.  I once woke up with that sleep paralysis a long time ago but it has never nappened again.

Caz 07-10-2003 08:15

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Was the Narcolepsy bit for me littlemo?

Never had any problems with sudden urges to sleep.

Waste of time talking to my doctor about anything like that.
He'll try and fob you off about anything as long as he can. Have some other health issues which aren't being dealt with properly, so no hope with that. "Lots of people get that at some stage" is all I get.
In the process of trying to find a new GP though, so who knows!
:)


HarryX 07-10-2003 10:12

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cazzer I know what you mean.. Seems to me most doctors main priority is how quick they can get you out the room and the next body in.. This is also true for specialists in my experience and from what others tell me :(

lettie 07-10-2003 10:17

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:-/  Sleep problems in general are not dealt with very well in this country, and it is sooooo important, had one or two chats with littlemo about this via messenger. I reckon most GP's don't take this seriously, they just give you sleeping tablets and hope for the best. ::)

HarryX 07-10-2003 10:19

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Narcolepsy can hardly be described as a series of naps during the day:)  Arn't there cases of people sleeping for days, weeks and months on end?   Isn' it a very dangerous condition where you ahve absoloutly no control and simply fall asleep.. this can be right in the middle of somehting....can last a minute or two or be a lot worse


Its not a case of feeling sleepy enough to ahve a nap during the day. :)

littlemo 07-10-2003 15:06

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no Harry, what I was referring to is the way we can confirm it, if cazzer was over here and show signs of sleep paralysis, whe would be getting checked out for narcolepsy and what I was decribing was the process that we would take

Mik Dickinson 07-10-2003 19:03

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Wow i must admit this has really opened my eyes on this subject.No pun intended.Really interesting is this subject.I did not realise that it was so closely researched

littlemo 07-10-2003 19:42

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oohhhhhhhh yeah! anymore questions?!! have only been in the field for a couple of years but am addicted to it! Only problem is while i'm staying up all night investigating people for thier sleep problems, am ironically creating my own!

ANNE 07-10-2003 20:40

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I once slept the clock round. Even heard the ice cream van and thought i was dreaming. I have never lived it down. I have trouble getting to sleep and trouble getting up once i am.

ANNE 07-10-2003 20:43

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Our daughter not only used to talk in her sleep but fight in her sleep with fists proper flying.
She even once washed her hair while sleep walking.

SteveyBaby 08-10-2003 18:25

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Wow, i feel pretty lucky, as i dont sleep walk are talk  ;D

I have a few friends who do on the other hand ..  ::)

lettie 08-10-2003 18:49

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:) Yeh, I feel quite lucky too, the only sleep problem I have is that I don't get enough. Like littlemo, night shifts can take their toll. I do a couple of weeks of nights every 6 weeks and after an 11 1/2 hour shift usually get 3-4 hours sleep during the day, which is no where near enough. Being on call is worse, as you work an 8 hour day shift then on call all night, so you just get to sleep and your phone rings and you are off out again, and still expected to work the next day if you are rostered on.
Usually catch up on sleep when I'm in meetings [smiley=sleep.gif]

qal 08-10-2003 19:18

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i sleep walk all tha time :o

malibu 09-10-2003 22:53

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Anne I have done that after nights i have slept the clock round and woke up at the following morning 22 hours we worked it out at.


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