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This is typical of the fundamentalist nuts who are now running America,
a teacher in Texas is fired for allowing students to see nude art on a Museum trip.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/ed...gewanted=print

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:engsmil: That is what I call a witch hunt, what next?:engsmil:

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Cultural red-neck fascists.

Frightening.

Nude art, whatever next?

Better get out the magnolia paint to repaint the Sistine Chapel ceiling.

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I am dumbfounded at this carry on. If the kids,their parent, the school head new it was an art museum then why let them go. There is always a chance that there will be some kind of nude especially sculpture. Good job Michaelangello's David aint in this town as they would have him in a pare of shorts and a basketball vest.

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I checked out the Dallas Museum of Art's website.

Fantastic collection of Van Gogh's, but ne'er an offensive winky or tuppence to be seen.

http://www.dallasmuseumofart.org/Dal..._Art/index.htm

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I've been to exhibitions that certainly aren't fit viewing for an eleven year old child, one by the photographer Robert Mapplethorpe at the ICA springs to mind, but age related i-d was needed to gain access to that, but the art in this gallery is a selection of some of the best art mankind has ever created.

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I have had a nosey and found nothing offensive. If that museum was close to me with the exhibits it has I would have no qualms taking my daughter.

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Perhaps the worried parents would prefer to take little Junior to the more wholesome National Firearms Museum, also in Dallas.

http://www.nationalfirearmsmuseum.org/

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Being Texans they would consider a rail gun a work of art the sad sods that they are. Fine art is there to be admired, savoured and respected not as an excuse to send someone to a welfare queue.

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Did you read it all? The school are saying that they would not sack a teacher over the incidental viewing of nude art by a pupil and that the teacher is 'waving that banner'. They say she is suspended for performance issues not the art thing.

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Yes.

She apparently wore 'flip-flops' as well.

That proves she was trying to turn those little kids into perverts, showing them those dog gone dirty devil's work statues.

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How can a teacher with 28 years experience have performance issues? That is always the easist way to dismiss someone from their job. Not long ago a guy I know was made redundent and put down to "performance issues" yet when you look at most of the others that got tapped it was the highest grade and pay in their respective areas or the job. The other being that the job no longer existed yet the responsibilities ended up with a person on a lower grade and pay.

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"Christian Taliban?"

I like that! So much more evocative of a certain mindset than "Christian Right!"

To quote a bumper sticker "The last time we mixed religion and politics, people got burned at the stake."

Well, there are large parts of the country where we have a shortage of teachers. Maybe some smart administrator will seize the opportunity! Sounds like this teacher is deserving of a lot more appreciation.

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Taliban? A tad over the top, don't you think? There is a certain element within the Christian community better described as zealots. That holds true for every religion. America is not a theocracy - nor will it become one.

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Bullseyebarb, Sorry if you think my use of the taliban is a bit strong , but does the name , Rev. Fred Phelps mean anything to you ...........in case it doesnt ....he's the "Christian" gentleman from Kansas who along with his acolytes have been travelling the country and picketing the funerals of dead service people and praying for God to infect all servicemen with the AIDS virus,
Or maybe you haven't heard about another "Christian" gentleman called Jerry Falwell, the guy has a national TV show called the 700 club , he's the guy who told America that Katrina was Gods punishment to New Orleans for being a city comparable to the cities on the Plain ( Sodom and Gommarah)

Lets not forget to mention brother Jimmy Swaggert (cousin of Jerry Lee Lewis) he's the one who preachs on Sundays and spends the rest of the week with $10 hookers .
I wont bother to mention Americas favourite preacher , Billy Graham and his views on Jews (check the released Nixon tapes)

I guess Mormons qualify as Christians , so how about the guy recently arrested in Vegas after being on the FBIs most wanted list, for forcing young girls into polygamous marriages and sodomy

I've just checked my OED and a zealot is described as .."an uncompromising or extreme partisan, a fanatic"
ergo ...Taliban = Fanatic = Zealot .........

would be interested to hear/read your views on the latest news out of Georgia where they are trying to ban from a public library the childrens books by British writer , J K Rowling (Harry Potter series) for being too Satanic

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Class......:)

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I'm trying to remember wether it was the Rev. Jerry Falwell or Rev. Oral Roberts (great name for a preacher) who said the Teletubies should be banned from U S television, evidently TinkyWinky is gay and he was subliminally indoctrinating American toddlers, the "christian' gentleman knew this as a fact because he (TinkyWinky) wears purple/lavender coloured clothes and the thing on his head was triangle shaped

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I am well aware of all of the above. I would never classify Fred Phelps as a Christian. He's a vicious, twisted old man. He and his pitiful followers deserve nothing but contempt. Warren Jeffs, (the cult leader recently arrested in Las Vegas), doesn't qualify as a Christian either. The Mormons certainly would not claim him. Don't care for either Falwell or Swaggert. Billy Graham? Well, I think it's fair to say that's he's done a lot of good in the world. I believe in redemption and who amongst us hasn't said or done something stupid at some point in our lives. Mrs. Laura Mallory of Gwinnett County, Georgia has been trying to get Harry Potter banned from public schools for some time now. She has been repeatedly turned down and will continue to go nowhere with her appeals. I feel very sorry for her children. I grew up reading Enid Blyton. No doubt Mrs. Mallory would have gone after Enid, too. Do not judge a society by such people. America is a very religious country, with all faiths represented. The vast majority of us can spot the nutcases and do not subscribe to their way of thinking.

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Good post Bullseyebarb!

Just to clarify Steeljack, it's Pat Robertson that runs the 700 club. Also remember when Oral Roberts said he was gonna go up in some tower and not come down (or maybe eat) until he raised a certain amount of money?

Most of these type of guys are indeed pretty radical and/or do/say some extremely stupid, unbiblical things! I consider myself a religious conservative! However, I really hate it when I'm thrown into the same "boat" with these guys.

I tried to live my life based on Biblical guidlines. When people do the aforementioned, since it usually has no basis in Biblical thought, I tried to pay no mind or to stand up and question what they're doing. I have belliefs that I would certainly die for, but find so many "religious" discussion/argument/disagreement are either wrong or in a Biblical gray areas.

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LancYorkYankee , stand corrected , you are correct it is Pat Robertson who has the TV program , but I still hold my original view , both Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are evil and both spew the same kind of evil bile as Osama Bin Laden and his followers

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Bullseyebarb wrote ....The vast majority of us can spot the nutcases and do not subscribe to their way of thinking.

Anyone remember the Headline from the Daily Mirror , Nov. 6. 2004


How can 59,054,087 be so dumb!

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Just a minute, I'll pass you a mirror, I think you missed one!:cool:

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:yelrotflm

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Excellent point! There have been all sorts of "nutcases" who should hve been spotted, but who managed to come to power. A certain Mr. Hitler comes to mind. I have little issue with what folks choose to do in their own church, but there are plenty of folks who are attempting to foist their beliefs on the whole community (e.g., banning books) or the whole country.

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The Daily Mirror, eh? Ah, now I understand you a little better.

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You are looking in the wrong direction, chuck.

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Bullseyebarb ....... just to show no hard feelings , a great song , 'sung' by a great american .


http://www.mamarocks.com/why_i_love_her.htm

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Thanks for the link, Steeljack. No argument there. I was born and raised in England but I am an American by choice and disposition. I am quite sure we'll continue to have differences of opinion down the road - but the main thing to remember is that we love our country.