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Anyone know a good website for the Atkins Diet, basically one with a menu on what you can and cant eat.

Thanks in advance

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try accy library i'm sure they have a copy of the book

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Not a memer of the library do you need to be one?

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Why you want to diet Rued? - Are you Obese or just fat?

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Thats not very nice is it? Seeing you dont even know me

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RUUD, yes you do need to be a member just take two forms of i.d with you something with your name and address on. I find tealeaf to be very offensive maybe he is mentally challenged. ???

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Thanks Janet, I will pop down one day this week

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I know many people that have tried that one and have put on weight! it's not a diet of choice really anymore although i'm sure it's still popular in some parts of the world!

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Whats wrong with asking a simple question? And besides which the only people who appear to be mentally challenged round here are those who believe in these quacks such as Atkins

There is one hell of a difference between being slightly overweight and being clinically obese, and how the problem is addressed. Relying and encouraging charlatons like Atkins does no good whatsoever.

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There is a lot of controversy about the Atkins diet. Has been since it first surfaced decades ago.

What most worries medical experts are the long term effects it can have on the body.

Also most people are extremely lethargic for a week or so after first starting on this plan, due to the lack of carbohydrates.

Point worth noting. Dr Atkins, (recently deceased) never managed to keep to his ideal weight!

Check out websites that are both for & against the Atkins diet.

Whatever diet plan you decide to follow, make sure you consult your GP first.

Also Lettie is our medical expert on here, and may be able to give you some info.

:) :) :)

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Atkins Diet  ???

If it works for you but I would be asking what did Dr Atkins die of and why did he not keep to his ideal weight?

You do realise you will smell dont you on the atkins diet? cos you aint having carboyhydrates ???

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You'll smell like an elephants jockstrap

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I definately would not recommend Atkins Diet. Many of my medical colleagues have actually tried it, some have lost weight, but have re-gained it very quickly after resuming normal diet, some have also been extremely lethargic.

Sadly Dr Atkins died of renal failure. Whether this was caused by the diet or not is debateable, as people with kidney problems are treated with LOW Protein diets, so long term heart and renal problems may be a factor. By all means, try it as a short term thing and let us know how you get on. The best way to lose weight is to cut down on high calorie and fatty foods (most people can lose a few pounds just by giving up beer for a couple of weeks) and also to exercise more. Basically you have to use up more calories than you eat. ;D

Good luck Ruud, let us know how you get on.

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Well said Lettie - There is no great mystery about losing weight (If you got to much already). It's simple - a balanced diet & regular exercise. The only exception to that is someone who is overweight, sadly for clinical reasons.

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My point exactly Lettie. A good point made by tealeaf a well balanced diet and excercise.

I wish you luck in finding the right diet for you  :)

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I don't think it's Lettie who wants to diet it's Rued...

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Couldn't diet even if I wanted to as I enjoy my food and cider/wine too much. Really admire these people who manage to change their diets to sensible ones and lose loads of weight.  Luckily my diet is not too bad and I have a dog who needs loads of exercise come rain or shine, so I have been the same weight for years. Off to get my tea now, might have a jam butty for my pudding! ;D

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enjoy your jam butie lettie

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I think you will find that Dr Aitkens actually died from a head injury when he fell...not renal failure or heart disease......my Nutrition friend does not recommend the diet but suggests if anyone wants to try this form then have a go at the Fat Flush diet...much healthier, however, there is no substitute for healthy eating for life! ;)

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;D  May have been misinformed about the renal failure, one of our doctors told me a few weeks ago. Dr Atkins did suffer from Cardiomyopathy though, although he always claimed it had nothing to do with the diet, although it did once cause him to have a cardiac arrest which he survived. I wouldn't really advise anyone to do this diet, but each to their own. Personally I'd rather do healthy eating and exercise. :-*

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Can't possibly see how all that fat can possibly be good for anyone.
No need for faddy diets. Just a change of eating habits and excercise.
makes me laugh when these young girls, thin as anythin complain about their fat tums. No ammount of dieting will shift it only exercise.
Modderation in all things is the key. No food is a bad food.
I shoud know i have slimmed down from a 22-24 to a size 16.

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[smiley=jump3.gif]    Well done Anne, you'll have to advise Ruud on his diet. As said before, I admire people with the willpower to lose a lot of weight, my mum lost 4 stones when I was a kid and it's not easy. Big pat on the back for that one. ;D

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Thanks Lettie nothing to do with willpower. Partly Mick's heart attack and partly shock at seeing myself on the Daughters cam corder.
Not a pretty sight. ::) :(

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Thanks for all the replies, just to set the record straight, I am not Fat, however I have put a few pounds on over the last few weeks, probably due to copiois amounts of beer ( the calorie killer ) and chinese, and I just want to loose them again quickly

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Then do a detox.. Not only lose wiegth but cleans your body out :)

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How's the detox going Harry? Often thought about doing one myself. Not to lose weight but to try and improve my skin, which goes manky from time to time :-/

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IM on that as well Harry, started yesterday, off beer, on this diet thing and gave up smoking all in one day, a lot to give up at once, but willpower is needed most now

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I'll agree with the detoxing.

I did it about two months ago - its surprising how good you feel afterwards. You'll notice the difference in about a week.

Especially on the football field Ruud - so if you start now you might be able to keep up with me when we play you!!

;D

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Ha Ha Ha, dont think I will have any problems Adi, I will just out football your right winger, football brain is better than speed !! ;)

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Reet then.Was about March this year where my wife decided i had to lose weight.Was then 140 kg.Sorryguys no stoned. Oops sorry Harry.Meant stones here.Anyway i started off by having Muesli in the mornings and evenings.Dinnertime i had fruit.Weekends was the killer, but managed.Was a 52" waist then.By August this year i  am down to 122 kg and now fit in to a 40" waist.Excercise twice a week anyway.Football training on Tuesdays and have a game on Fridays.Feel better for it and the wife can now breath.

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surely the only problem with that now MikDickinson is that the wife can now breathe easier!!!!

as for football brain Ruud - we'll see pal, we'll see

;D

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Quality Adi, keep off them frankfurters Mik ;D

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My detox is going well. Your allowed potatoes now and then.. so its bubble and squeek salad tonight.... yummy :(

Lots of water and vegatables mainly.. spuds now and then.. pasta now and then..

Porridge for breakkie with rice milk and honey to taste

Fruit during day.. including a whole load of nuts and raisons we have... they fill ya... cant have salted because salt and stuff like that not allowed

Yes it does do your skin a world of good lettie :)  Actually the losing wight was a bonus.. thats not why we did it originally..

I went to dagenham on saturday.. 5.5 hr coach ride there.. had my water and a food flask with home made vegatable soup... but I just couldnt stand it on the way back after such a memorable win and had a can of beer...arrrrgh tut tut :(

otherwise all going to plan :)

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ruud giving up smoking is a job and a half on its own.. i wouldnt fancy a detox and giving up.... I gave up smoking about 7 years ago after being on around 30 a day for 25 years... The weight piled on and my teeth went manky *  Now getting wieght back off and lots of visits to dentist and I can now give big smiles again :)


* dentist explained that my teeth may have looked nice and good when smoking but the problem was under my gums... when i gave up smoking my gums got better and the badness then came out from under and ruined my teeth... they started breaking and going bad :(  Months and months of treatement and I now have good clean teeth and healthy gums and there all mine :)  But its one to watch out for mate.. I thought mine where ok until i gave up smoking..

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hats of f to Mik..... thats some going good for you! I keep saying i'd love to run the London marathon by the time i'm 40 but no-one wants to do it with me :( unfortunatly I have no will power by myself and know i'll never do it unless I work with someone!

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Harry, up until Sunday I used to smoke 30 - 40 a day and had done for the last 11 years, however I decided to pack in, and by not drinking at the mo neither it is probably the best time, as the killer for me is when I have had a drink I crave Nicotine, so by staying off the beer the nicotine cravings should be gone ( hopefully ) by the time I start drinking again

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ruud over 25 years i cant remeber how many times I packed in smoking. Some days i sat there with a fag mid morning and it suddenly dawned on me.. hey ddn't I gve up this morning...

I tried so many times... So how did I finally manage it after all them years?  Well buggered if I know.. Luck I guess... All them other times it didnt work and this time it did...


I thoguht it was the hardest thing I had done in my life... Until I tried to diet arrgh :(

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I shall keep you posted I tried last year and last a whole 3 weeks, so really need to make an effort this time, my missus is right behind me though as she is an anti smoker so a clip round the ear if I cheat, and also I dont want to bring my kid's up thinking it's a good thing to do either, what is it with smoking your parents did it, tell you not to do it but you do, then you try to tell your kids the same

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I dont smoke myself, but my sister who does tried the nicotine patches, she did well for six weeks then the cravings got to much for her needless to say she gave up on the patches. She now smokes a lower tar and nicotine cigarette which is something i suppose better than nothing.

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Afraid not.. Lower tar don't mean squat I am afraid... Bit like changing over to methol as people used to do...

I did patches for a month and then for quite some time I smoked herbal fags.. You buy them from the chemist.. used to cost me about 1.50 per pack of 20.. then gave them up which was a lot easier cus no nicotinme in them..

Its the nicotine you have to worry about.. Not tar :(

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Not doing patches, tried them before and dont work, just willpower

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Lettie, You have been misinformed again!! Please advise your Doc friend on the following:

"Controversial US diet guru Dr Robert Atkins has died, aged 72, a week after he injured his head in a fall.
Dr Atkins died at New York's Weill-Cornell Medical Center and was surrounded by his wife and close friends, said Richard Rothstein, his spokesman.

He had suffered a severe head injury on 8 April after falling on an icy pavement while walking to his office in New York.

The doctor shot to fame in the early 1970s with his Atkins diet, a low-carbohydrate, high-protein eating regime.

Followers of the Atkins diet are allowed to eat unlimited meat, eggs, fish and shellfish.

But they can only eat small amounts of carbohydrates, such as bread, potatoes and pasta. "

As reported on http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2957343.stm

I am not a fan of the diet but think it is wrong if people are putting incorrect information about....... (not you personally Lettie)

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I like the see food diet ;D

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I think the only extra information that lettie added was that Dr Atkins suffered from cardiomyopathy, which is true, and he did have a cardiac arrest. He was hospitalised in April last year.

The article omitted to say that when he fell, he tripped over his dog!

He eventually died after several days to to complications after a subdural haematoma & had lapsed into a coma.

:) :)

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[quote author=littlemo link=board=general;num=1064223971;start=0#34 date=09/23/03 at 13:48:00]hats of f to Mik..... thats some going good for you! I keep saying i'd love to run the London marathon by the time i'm 40 but no-one wants to do it with me :( unfortunatly I have no will power by myself and know i'll never do it unless I work with someone![/quote]
Thanks littlemo.The whole problem being with the weight loss thing is to find a diet that you can constantly use and keep to without putting all that fat on.Some doctors even reckon it is all genetic. Hence you eat more of a certain type of food and you lose weight where as another person eating the same kind of food makes them gain weight

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[quote author=Ruud link=board=general;num=1064223971;start=0#40 date=09/23/03 at 15:04:30]Not doing patches,
i tried them once Ruud and to be honest i felt like rolling the bloody thing up and smoking it.Could not kick the habit and still do IT.Although i try to cut the amount down to about 12 a day now.

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Cazzer, yes he did have a cardiac arrest but it is not what he died of and where on earth did you get the info he tripped over his dog?????

"NEW YORK (CNN) -- Dr. Robert Atkins, creator of the high-protein, low-carbohydrate Atkins Diet, died Thursday after an accidental fall on April 8 left him comatose.

Atkins, 72, was rushed to New York Weill Cornell Medical Center by his colleague, Dr. Keith Berkowitz, where surgeons removed a blood clot to relieve pressure in his brain on April 9.

Atkins slipped on an icy sidewalk outside his New York office.

"We are hoping for a miracle," Richard Rothstein, a spokesman for Atkins told CNN April 11, "but the chances for a meaningful recovery are slim.

Atkins' original 1972 book, "Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution," was contrary to the recommendations of most nutritional experts at the time. While many remain skeptical about the Atkins Diet, it has become increasingly popular since the 1992 publication of his book, "Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution."

In April 2002, Atkins was hospitalized after he went into cardiac arrest, which he said in a statement was "in no way related to diet."

He is credited with revolutionizing the diet world with his theory that you can lose weight by eating fat, and his followers hailed him as a pioneer. His critics accused him of selling a dangerous idea, but Atkins dismissed their claims. "
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/04/17/obit.atkins/

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I got my information  on the day he fell. yes he was on an icy sidewalk, due to a freak spring storm. didn't say he wasn't. But the news report also said he tripped over his dog when he fell, 'cos I can remember it seemed strange at the time! But maybe Sky news is wrong?

Didn't say he died of a cardiac arrest either, merely backing the statement that it he did suffer from cardiomyopathy as lettie said. I did not say he died from it.

He became comotose after the  surgery on the subdural haematoma.

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;D  If you read my post, It does say that Dr Atkins had a cardiac arrest which he survived!!!   ;D

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there are also many other things that can slow down or speed up  a persons motabolism. From the medical field that i am in, if a person has sleep apnea, this can also slow it down. So if your overweight and snore (which is an indication that sleep apnea may be present) then untill that is treated it's a vicious circle

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My hubby over weight and snores to the point were he wakes him-self up. Trouble is he wont admit to snoring.
Its like some sort of slow torcher. Hard on the nerves and destroys the sanity. ??? ::)

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;)  Tape him, then play it back  ;)  or pinch his nose ;D

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Tried taping him he just says " Prove thats me."
I have to try rolling him over onto his side.
He will say I'm not even asleep. So I will ask why he makes such a dreadfull noise.  ::)

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;)  Might be time to let littlemo sort him out.

 Mo, we need you,  please come for a visit, you can stay at my house as I'm bound to be crashing at yours in the future ;D  Pretty please 8)

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would love too! think accy Vic would be ideal to set up a sleep lab!

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Am i missing something here or are you lot just talking about me
or the misses calling me again [smiley=idunno.gif] [smiley=sleep.gif] [smiley=sleep.gif] [smiley=sleep.gif] [smiley=sleep.gif] [smiley=sleep.gif]

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what has this got to do with Aitkens?

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I must appologise Lesley. Told you they were mad.
Every so often they suck sane people into their land of madness. Lol
Get carried away and tend to veer off the subject in hand.
You odnt av t be mad to join this forum but it helps.  ::)

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It's like anything else, one thing leads on to another. Most threads are the same. All part of the fun!
;D ;D

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This is a very serious site we dont like fun on here >:( [smiley=jump3.gif] [smiley=yelrotflmao.gif] [smiley=yelrotflmao.gif] [smiley=yelrotflmao.gif] [smiley=yelrotflmao.gif] [smiley=yelrotflmao.gif] [smiley=yelrotflmao.gif]

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I'll come back when I've had a few :P :D

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Good idea Lesley.  :D :D :D

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I just wanted to be a busy bee and see if this diet is any good :D

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pmsfl

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Why not try "the maggie diet daily mail" friend lost 5stones on this.
It's the Diet Margaret Thatcher used.
Grapefruit and egg basicly but it works.

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Oh for heavens sake Dave don't encourage him:D