Taxing more of your freedom.
 

Caught the tail end of BBC World News last night, wherein the topic was the proposed tax on air travel in the U.K. Presumably, this is meant to discourage flight and aid in the fight against "global warming". What a crock! How much more taxation are you willing to bear? It seems that the government is constantly on the prowl in an effort to curb your freedom and force you to change the way you live. Had enough yet?

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pity they dont tax people coming into teh country we would make millions but as usual they only tax people trying to have a week or two relaxation after slaving all year in some sh1t hole paying taxes

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we already have CO2 and airport taxes; the idea is simply to bung 'em up more. However, on average people in the UK travel (other than by car) a hell of a sight more than people in the US, where I believe, less than 10% of the population poccess a passport. I think the intention of this proposal is to stop our little island from growing into one big concrete airport.

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Areoplanes are a global problem. They use a tonne of fuel- I once heard that one trip accross the atlantic is more than all the fuel in all the cars of a formula one season combind! On top of this the fuel isn't taxed- which country would they pay it to?

The country has comitted to reduce C02 emissions and areoplanes are one of the worst offenders- what other options are there?

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Uncommit !?

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If you buy into the "human activity is responsible for everything" mantra, then continue on this path - and watch as your economy falters and your choices diminish. Improved technologies are the better option.

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On Americans and foreign travel......comment exchange between Johnathan, Ron and Wendy on www.vagablogging.net/03-09/americans-are-nomadically-challenged.html I do not count myself amongst the nomadically challenged. Not fond of beaches - but love the history. The studly Enrico and I will be trotting off to Italy again the first of next year. We are by no means "ugly Americans." And golly gee whiz, I even speak the lingo! However, I still prefer to travel around the U.S. Marvelous country.

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I cant afford any more taxes! The treasury is becoming like a huge sponge just soaking it up. Then theythe prats start ringing it out were it has no use or benifit at all!!

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teh govenment wont be happy until we either walk or row our selves abroad, its about tiem we got teh hell out of europe and its loony rules

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You hinting that it is a ploy to have more immigrants in so as to work cheaper?

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no i am saying that teh govenment will make going on holiday so expensive that holidays will be out of reach apart from the well off unless we either walk abroad or row a bloody boat across teh channel :mad:

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dont worry you might have just enough cash for a holiday next year though it may be the last.
:o

We are payin through the nose for barm pot ideas and the govenments humunges errors to the point that the wage you earn wont be enough to live on without state support ie working tax credits.

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They want to curtail the use of the cheap flights to the continent...flights to Malaga for £10 (one way)........that is for the hoi polloi...but it is Ok for the politicians to drive gas guzzling limos and use helicopters etc for their own travel.
And as for taxes ...well, we are keeping the families of militant ethnics in the custom to which they have so easily become used to. It seems to me that anyone can come here and claim benefits whether they have earned them or not.
A case in point is the 7 foot Pakistani woman who is claiming asylum here because she says she gets bullied back in her homeland......she is on benefits......has a rent and rate free flat and is paid 40 quid a week.....she also says she can't work because she is a diabetic......eh, how many diabetics hold down full time jobs? Oh, yes and she gets all her diabetic treatment free here...she would have to pay for it back in Pakistan.
The government has given her a two year temporary visa...but I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of donkey droppings that she gets full residency status after that.

And NO I'm not being racist......I'm just being a realist. You can't go giving money from the public purse to folk who have not paid into the system....not unless you want to be taxed out of existence like we are.

I'd emigrate but no-one will have me.

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According to a recent article in one of the Chicago papers, the UK portion of taxes and fees was a bit more than $61.00 (about 32 GBP). Considering that the total cost of the ticket was a bit over $500, the UK seems to be getting a good bite out of my wallet already - as is the US!

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Oh Geee what an atttitude they have, someone get me a box & bury me - pooreer people are the most priced out, no dental health, nhs up the swanny, education standards are down, lack of facilities & the crims getting away with it.....not that i can afford to go abroad but many do & this increase will effect a huge majority not that holidaying in Britain is a cheaper alternative :(

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Last night I took a look at the prices for a flight to New York and was in shock when the split came up and showed that the tax part was geater than the actual cost. It is criminal!!! Some did come in with the tax lower but only just so stuck in this example as it is not a web booking only offer.


Glasgow International to New York
(KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ) Per Adult
(incl. estimated tax)£267.00
General InformationThis fare is valid for departure dates between 01 November 2006 and 16 December 2006. Your return date can be any time after this period as long as it fits with the airline's rules about the maximum length of stay.
Chosen Fare DetailsDeparture Date:24 November 2006http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifReturn Date:28 November 2006http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifDestination:New Yorkhttp://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifDeparture Airport:Glasgow International http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifAirline:KLM Royal Dutch Airlines http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifClass:Economy Classhttp://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifJourney Type:Return Price Details (in £ Sterling)Adult Fare: £125.00http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifEstimated Tax Per Person: £142.00http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifStopover Charge: Not Permitted http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifOvernight Charge: Not Availablehttp://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifWeekend Surcharge: None http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifCancellation Charge: 100% http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifChange Return-Date Charge (after outbound travel): Not Available http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifChange Return Date Charge (prior to outbound travel): 100% http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifTicket on Departure (Subject to airline rules): On Request. Other OptionsThe following items are options which the airline allows for the fare. If you wish to take advantage of them you will have to contact the Airline Network directly. It is not possible to book these options using the on-line booking system. Open returns are not allowed for this fare. Double open jaw is allowed. This allows you to fly back from a different airport than the one you flew to. E.G You can fly to Orlando and return from Miami. You can also fly back to a different airport than the one you flew from. E.G. You can fly out from London Heathrow and return to Manchester. http://www.airline-network.co.uk/images/blank.gifPossible connections and stopoversOutbound JourneyAmsterdamPossible Transit Point. Return JourneyAmsterdamPossible Transit Point. Number of stopoversAllowedFreeOutbound00Return00Total00Note: The entries in the Free column indicate how many stops the airline allows before adding a fare supplement. The Total row indicates the total number of outward and return stopovers the airline will allow. (it is not simply a total of the outbound and return stopovers!) General Remarks and Rules

• The cost of taxes and Airline Failure Protection is estimated and may not include stops/transfers.
• There are no minimum stay restrictions.
• You cannot stay longer than a maximum of 1 month in your destination.
• There are no advance purchase restrictions for this fare.
• This fare must be booked before 31 October 2006
• You must stay at least one Saturday night in your destination
• Please note this fare has an immediate ticket by date and therefore requires full payment.
• This fare is only valid departing from the UK.

Local Time: 19/10/2006 12:09:52

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It seems to me to be a 'back-door' way of driving the start-up airlines out of business (anyone remember Freddie Laker and Skytrain) Since Ryanair and other similar airlines began offering scheduled flights at a reasonable prices and still show a profit the major national carriers have had to cut their prices to match the competition on similar routes , There is nothing more that BA, AirFrance/KLM and Lufthansa would like to see than the end of these cheap flights ,then the prices go up again, you can be sure that the major airlines carry more lobbying weight in Brusels and London than a ****ant sized start-up airline.

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I didn't see the story, as I spent the last couple of days hallucinating, but that is a very valid point. It's the opposition that came up with the proposal, not the current British government.

Remember that, come the next General Election. The Tories will always be Tories, no matter how they rebrand themselves. Their very ethos is to keep the little people down, so the few can carry on living off the fat of the land.

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It seems Foriegn Secretary has a different view on the subject

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