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Acrylic-bob 22-10-2006 08:52

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One of the sights that I am grateful to see at the end of a long and trying day at work is the first view of Greater Hamildon, Moleside and the Coppice from the top of Tockholes. It means that I am finally home and in a way, the view puts a sort of punctuation mark on the day. From this you may suppose that I am familiar with all the elements of the view; not perhaps as familiar as I am with the back of my hand , but close enough.

It came as something of a shock the other day when, as we crested the hill, the welcome view began to unfold itself, like a favorite, if well worn carpet and revealed something that had not been there before. At the edge of the wood which lies alongside the old Burnley Road at the foot of Snipe Rake a very tall, light grey post had been erected. The next day I noticed that it had sprouted three very large arms. The following day I noticed that another pole had sprouted up and a large crane was parked next to it hoisting another set of arms onto it.

I know that I have not been as observant of the dark and sinsister doings of HBC as I might usually have been but, you would have thought that the sighting of something that would have such a detrimental effect on the visual amenity of the area would have raised at least some ripple of protest, if only for the sake of protest itself. But, alas, I can find no reference at all to this latest planning blunder anywhere. Perhaps a more observant member of the forum might be able to enlighten me?

Gayle 22-10-2006 11:15

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Can't quite picture where you mean A-B! Are you sure it's in Hyndburn?

katex 22-10-2006 11:22

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As only a single turbine, do you think this is just supporting one individual property and not a National thing ? Possibly planning permission was obtained separately ?

I quite like them actually, find very therapeutic to watch. :)

Acrylic-bob 22-10-2006 11:26

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Oh yes! Travel along Burnley Road (A679) as far as the A56 Bridge, go under it and continue along the A679 and you will see the wood bordering the right hand side of the road.

Acrylic-bob 22-10-2006 11:27

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I will take the camera to work with me tomorrow and will post the picture so that you can see what I am talking about.

accymel 22-10-2006 11:30

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Yeh strangely we spotted the turnbines from the clayton end yesterday LOL:D

Good to see ya back posting A-B:D

SPUGGIE J 22-10-2006 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex
As only a single turbine, do you think this is just supporting one individual property and not a National thing ? Possibly planning permission was obtained separately ?

I quite like them actually, find very therapeutic to watch. :)

You feeling alright? How can the spinning of this bit of metal be theraputic?

katex 22-10-2006 12:24

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
You feeling alright? How can the spinning of this bit of metal be theraputic?

Everyone to their own Spuggie .. least its quiet. Like looking at the fish in a fishtank .. that's supposed to be therapeutic, but not to me, watching their gobs open every few seconds ... mmm think I will take myself up there sometime when I am feeling stressed. :D

Looked on the Burnley planning applications, nearest one showing was in 2003 adjacent to Rakehead quarry off Kings Highway, erection of 6.5 metre turbine to power water treatment plant .. not sure whether this is it ?

garinda 22-10-2006 12:26

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
You feeling alright? How can the spinning of this bit of metal be theraputic?

http://static.flickr.com/71/193540979_0378a5967d_b.jpg

AccyJay 22-10-2006 14:15

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I saw them the other day whilst on my way back from Burnley. I think they look quite good.

Less 22-10-2006 14:28

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Nice one rindy, but even if they all looked like that someone would still complain!

I do wonder why they are always painted grey, perhaps done in nice pastel colours to please the arty farty amongst us or even camoflauge paint to blend in for the tree huggers?:p

AccyJay 22-10-2006 14:36

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Those in the picture posted by Garinda look like they've got very sharp edges. Also, they seem very shiney, they could easily distract passing motorists. Health & Safety would have a field day. lol

:D

katex 22-10-2006 16:45

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Originally Posted by AccyJay
Those in the picture posted by Garinda look like they've got very sharp edges. Also, they seem very shiney, they could easily distract passing motorists. Health & Safety would have a field day. lol

:D

Yeh, not very classy are they AccyJay, but thanks Garinda for brightening up my day.

I have just had occasion to go to Burnley and yes, can see them quite clearly off the motorway .....still only the pole on the other one yet though.

Sorry, A-B know it is out of your comfort zone, but I find them quite handsome and certainly better looking than all those electricity pylons that are out there. Would you have complained or just miffed as not spotted any planning requests for them ?

Will be good to find out who they belong to though, and what notification was given to the public.

garinda 22-10-2006 16:51

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The only trouble with these new fangled, turbine windmills, is that Windy Miller will have to become anorexic if he is going to live inside them comfortably.:D

http://www.pacificenvironment.org/im...lls%20copy.jpg

garinda 22-10-2006 16:53

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...and the stairs to the top won't be very disabled friendly.

katex 22-10-2006 16:53

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Originally Posted by garinda
The only trouble with these new fangled, turbine windmills, is that Windy Miller will have to become anorexic if he is going to live inside them comfortably.:D

http://www.pacificenvironment.org/im...lls%20copy.jpg

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

bullseyebarb 22-10-2006 17:06

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This is what the environmentalists have been pushing for a long time. However, now that windmills have been erected on some of England's prettiest, wildest coastline, there are few cries of joy. These things have ruined the beauty of the place......so sayeth some enviros. Well, what did they expect?

katex 22-10-2006 18:32

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Think this is it ? :-

[IMG]www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/search/display.var.966339.0.approval_for_wind_turbines.ph p[/IMG]

Oh well, just can't make it easy for you the link thingy does not seem to be playing with me today !! So you will just have to type the bloody thing out .. done it now about twenty times ... sorry.

Anyway, looks like we are going to have triplets, which will power 2,400 homes for REpower, etc.

garinda 22-10-2006 22:53

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Originally Posted by katex
Think this is it ? :-

[IMG]www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/search/display.var.966339.0.approval_for_wind_turbines.ph p[/IMG]

Oh well, just can't make it easy for you the link thingy does not seem to be playing with me today !! So you will just have to type the bloody thing out .. done it now about twenty times ... sorry.

Anyway, looks like we are going to have triplets, which will power 2,400 homes for REpower, etc.

See if this works.Approval For Wind Turbines (from Lancashire Telegraph)

katex 22-10-2006 23:05

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Originally Posted by garinda

Just knew a knight in shining armour would be along soon ... :D Ta Hun.

Just get fed up sometimes of this female independency rubbish .. tee hee.

Anyway, what you all think ? Gotta' look after our future generations for power sources, to drive their computers, lights, domestic appliances, heating, etc., I'm all for it !

garinda 22-10-2006 23:10

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Originally Posted by katex
Just knew a knight in shining armour would be along soon ... :D Ta Hun.

Just get fed up sometimes of this female independency rubbish .. tee hee.

Anyway, what you all think ? Gotta' look after our future generations for power sources, to drive their computers, lights, domestic appliances, heating, etc., I'm all for it !

Team work hun.;)

I'm with Kate, they don't bother me that much, and we do need to look for an energy supply that isn't reliant on imports from dwindling stocks abroad. Look how Italy was held to ransom last year by Russia with it's gas supply.

entwisi 23-10-2006 06:50

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I like them TBH, Like Katex i find then theraputic. I know that wildlife lovers complain that they kill a few birds but we do have a responsibility to look for alternative methods of generating electricity if we want to be so dependant on it. I was in B&Q yesterday and just as you walk in there was a stand showing off 'personal' wind turbines and solar panel water heaters.

heres a link B&Q Online

Gayle 23-10-2006 08:59

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They're not in Hyndburn - the article says that they needed planning permission from Burnley BC.

Neil 23-10-2006 11:18

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Maybe we could stick some on the coppice and prove that Hyndburn is green :rolleyes:

Less 23-10-2006 12:08

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Originally Posted by Neil
Maybe we could stick some on the coppice and prove that Hyndburn is green :rolleyes:

Call me a cynic but somehow If we did that, our turbines would have to have a large arrow pointing to the blades and instructions saying, 'plant this way up':confused:

Gayle 23-10-2006 20:34

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Saw them from the motorway on my way home from Burnley. Although they are quite majestic I do think they're very big and I know it's not in the middle of a town but there are a number of houses near by - bet they're not pleased (also wouldn't be that thrilled myself in all honest at that proximity).

I think they're beautiful and wonderful for the future of fuel, etc - but far better suited to more isolated wilder spots.

katex 23-10-2006 20:41

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Originally Posted by Gayle
Saw them from the motorway on my way home from Burnley. Although they are quite majestic I do think they're very big and I know it's not in the middle of a town but there are a number of houses near by - bet they're not pleased (also wouldn't be that thrilled myself in all honest at that proximity).

I think they're beautiful and wonderful for the future of fuel, etc - but far better suited to more isolated wilder spots.

Well, seems there were no objections Gayle. Unless, like A-B didn't spot the planning application.

K.S.H 23-10-2006 20:43

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Says in telegraph tonight they had to fight for 4 year to get planning permission for it

Gayle 23-10-2006 20:44

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Apparently there were lots of objections - it took six years for them to get it through planning permission.

It does bring up the question of what happens with planning requests when the place in question is very close to the border. I mean, on this occassion the site is in Burnley (well Hapton) so how would people who live just over the border get the opportunity to object if they wanted to?

K.S.H 23-10-2006 20:45

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Could have been 6 then Gayle, was a while since I read it (about 1 hour :D )

Gayle 23-10-2006 20:50

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Well it could have been 4 as it was a while since I read it too (about 10 hours).

One of us is going to have to check. :D

katex 23-10-2006 20:50

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Originally Posted by K.S.H
Says in telegraph tonight they had to fight for 4 year to get planning permission for it

Really K.S.H. ? Well, I for one am glad they got it ... just seems a shame that wasn't cross-referenced with HBC as so close to the border and what we all see from Accy when coming over the tops.

Perhaps planning applications should be thought out this way in the future, not by land boundaries, but by visual boundaries too . ?

K.S.H 23-10-2006 21:00

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Well it distracted me a few times from the Clayton end on Saturday :mad:

K.S.H 23-10-2006 21:01

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Originally Posted by Gayle
Well it could have been 4 as it was a while since I read it too (about 10 hours).

One of us is going to have to check. :D

Go on then, i'll let you :D
Karma for the winner - but i'll check if you say it was 6 hour :) :)

Gayle 23-10-2006 21:03

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Hate to say this K.S.H. but my memory's better than yours

Farmer Harvests Energy From Sky (from Lancashire Telegraph)


:D :D :D :D I checked.

K.S.H 23-10-2006 21:13

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Originally Posted by Gayle
Hate to say this K.S.H. but my memory's better than yours

Farmer Harvests Energy From Sky (from Lancashire Telegraph)


:D :D :D :D I checked.

They might have got it wrong in print, might be 4 in the paper.
But i'll trust you, trouble is I have to spread it about before I can give you some karma :D

Gayle 23-10-2006 21:16

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It's ok - I'd say take a raincheck but you'll probably forget! :D

K.S.H 23-10-2006 21:18

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Originally Posted by Gayle
It's ok - I'd say take a raincheck but you'll probably forget! :D

You will have to remind me, anyone know how much you have to give before you can leave for someone a 2nd time?

katex 23-10-2006 21:21

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Go for it Gayle .. hey, just love the way the lady describes it as a 'slick ergonomic design' couldn't have put it better meself ... :D

Hey, where's A-B gone anyway .. thought we were going to get some piccies tonight ?

WillowTheWhisp 24-10-2006 00:10

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We saw one of the blades heading off down the A56 on Saturday as we were leaving for the weekend. We hadn't a clue that a new wind farm was under construction and we sort of looked back and went "What's that?????" and I said it looked like an aeroplane propellor blade but Busman said it was too big. It never occurrd to us that it was a wind generator thingy.

I don't dislike them either. I've always llooked out for them whenever I've been past Cliviger.

entwisi 24-10-2006 06:45

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That would be the wagon that blocked the A56 then Willow :)

WillowTheWhisp 24-10-2006 14:09

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Yes the road was closed and I think it was being escorted by the police.

Anyway we've just been and taken these photos and personally I find nothing obtrusive in them at all. The first three were taken from the network 65 business park and the last three were taken from the A679.


http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1161698920

SPUGGIE J 24-10-2006 14:49

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Tie your washing to them and on a fine dry windy day the close would be ready for ironing in no time.If it sould be in winter think of the leccy saved from not using a drier. :D

Tealeaf 25-10-2006 15:08

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Originally Posted by accymel
Yeh strangely we spotted the turnbines from the clayton end yesterday LOL:D

:D

Errr...I seem to recall I pointed out the turbines to you and Harwood Red at half time. I assume Turnbines are summat like Woodbines and you spotted some fag ends on the floor.:D

On a somewhat different note, it is somewhat dispondant to see that Burnley Council were overruled by central government in their objections to this scheme. So much for local democracy (although with what we now know of vote rigging in Burnley, it is debatable whether Burnley is a local democracy).

Still on the Burnley theme, the next Lord Mayor of the City of London is a Burnley lad. You know where you got that information first - on here, and not in the LET or Granada news. At least one member of Accy web will be in the formal procession on November 11th, and it ain't me.

Acrylic-bob 28-10-2006 16:27

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Hi all. Sorry to have been absent for most of this discussion, but half term in Blackpool has been utter madness this year, six days of 16 hour shifts and an all-nighter have left me a shattered ruin of my former self - one more week to go and then I can R E L A A A A X !.

Anyway, it has, as always, been most instructive to read your comments and opinions. I stand corrected about the relative jurisdiction of the the turbines and my thanks for the the two telegraph articles. Particularly the one about the gormless farmers wife, I hope she thinks they are still wonderful when she cannot get a good nights sleep for the constant low frequency sound these things generate.

It does kinda make you wonder what sort of democracy we live in when the very powers which are supposed to represent the wishes of the people seem so utterly contemptuous of those wishes, particularly when they are at varience with those of the authority concerned. I am minded of the waste re-processing site at Huncoat Power Station, very democratic, that decision!

Speaking personally, I have no objection to turbines in principle, obviously they are a necessity. But I would have thought that more care and consideration could have been brought to bear when deciding where to site the wretched things.

katex 28-10-2006 17:35

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Well, guess we will have to agree to disagree Bob, as the saying goes 'Beauty is in the eyes of the Beholder' :)

Neil 28-10-2006 18:10

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Originally Posted by K.S.H
anyone know how much you have to give before you can leave for someone a 2nd time?

10 .

K.S.H 28-10-2006 18:26

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Originally Posted by Neil
10 .

Thanks Neil

WillowTheWhisp 28-10-2006 19:25

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Were those two posts a thread wander from elsewhere? :confused:


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