Goodbye Secretary Rumsfeld
 

While I was delighted at the outcome of yesterday's congressional elections here in the US, with the Democrats taking control of both houses of Congress, I was even more deighted by the unexpected departure of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

I'd be interested in hearing some comments by our UK friends!

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I'm glad is gone.

We need strong leaders, but we also need those same leaders to have the foresight to see the conseques of their actions in the long term.

He seemed to believe that everything would be hunky dory after the fall of Baghdad, something that Iraq certainly isn't today, poised as it is on the brink of civil war.

I hope the Democrats can now force Bush to serve out the rest of his Presidency with the hope to ending this conflict without too many more deaths.

What I want to know is where did Lieberman get all the money from to enable him to win a Senate seat as an independant ? maybe he has foriegn friends ,
:rolleyes: ;) :rolleyes: ;) :rolleyes: ;) :rolleyes:

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took the words right out of my mouth.

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Does that mean I've been as elected as something now?:eek:

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Now that he has been shot down and is out in the real world will he be honest with people as to why he did what he did? Now that there is a change at thye "war office" will we see it sorted and the boys home without any problems and Iraq nice and stable? Personally I think that he has done to much damage for anything to go smoothly and they way every one wants.

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Rumsfeld was the arse-end of the pantomime cow that is George Dubbya. He only got the job because he was a "yes-man" & croney of the president.

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Donald Rumsfeld was a former Navy pilot, graduate of Princeton University, Secretary of Defense twice, (once in the 1970's and currently), a WH Chief of Staff, Ambassador to NATO, U.S. Congressman and chief executive of two Fortune 500 companies. He has been an exemplary public servant. However, it was time for him to go. Six years is a long time in the Sec Def job. It's a very tough gig - especially in a time of war. Not to mention that he has had to reform the institution and rebuild the military after it was cut drastically during the '90's.

Here in Georgia, the Republicans did very well. The party nationally ought to take note. In short, Republicans in this state did what they were elected to do and didn't dis the people who brought them to the dance. Interesting to see how many Democrats ran as conservatives in order to get elected this time around. What we down here refer to as Blue Dog Democrats. Let's see how independent these freshmen are when they get to Washington and have to deal with their ultra left leadership. It's going to be fun.

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Donald Rumsfeld was and is a hawk whose policy appeared to be shoot first and think about the consequences after. Mind you saying that, you have had some serious dipsh**s as defence secretaries in the past but he was about as evil as they get. I am also glad he has gone, I'm just worried about who follows him.

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Rumsfeld, the great, and according to Barb highly qualified war theorist, was secure in his job, and until recently had Bush's full support, until the election results were in...funny that.

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"I have benefitted greatly from criticism. At no time have I suffered a lack thereof." Winston Churchill.

Just remember, it ai'n't so easy when you are in the catbird seat. I haven't heard any rational alternatives from any of you people. How would you handle the current threat from radical Islam?

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President Bush’s refused to hold Rumsfeld accountable for his bad decisions on Iraq, which has led to growing violence and mounting casualties. This only hurts the entire administration’s credibility, which is already at an all time low. He was also caught in quite a few lie's and even if you think some of the Brit politicians lied look at this.

YouTube - Donald Rumsfeld getting called out.

YouTube - Donald Rumsfeld On Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Iraq=

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'Catbird seat'?

I'm afraid you'll have to use English before I could possibly reply.

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explanation , hope this helps
Questions & Answers: Catbird seat

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Thanks.:)

Would appreciate more Cuckoo and Tit references though for us in dear old Blighty.;)

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this explains the difference between yellow dog and blue dog democrats used in one of Barbs earlier posts
Yellow Dog Democrat History

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Somehow, cuckoo references seem appealing vis-a-vis Mr. Rumsfeld. One could call the whole Iraq strategy "cuckoo," but we'd be insulting our avian friends. Rumsfeld is one of the fellows who, despite some sound military advice from military men such as General Colin Powell, helped get us into this parlous situation. Much like the cuckoo, he laid the fighting men and women of the US and UK (and others) in Iraq's nest. And now, the "tit" is surely caught in the wringer! (Talk about mixing one's metaphors!)

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The above quote answers all the questions.

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I wouldn't have got in the same position you are by your blind support to anything Israel says.

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A quote from the supposed intellectual Rumsfeld.

[Osama bin Laden is] either alive and well or alive and not too well or not alive.
The New Republic, 7 Oct 2002

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Good points Barb. Unfortunately, Rumsfield could never dig out from some early gaffs and the press dumping so many negative things against him or attributed to him. Though later proved untrue, the republicans made a poor job at facing and correcting these allegations head on. Hence so many false impressions of what Rumfield actually stood for or against.

As far as the next 2 years being fun with the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel, Hillarious Clinton, Teddy Kennedy etc., in charge of things,heck even the republicans weren't that bad as america will soon see!

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LYY, I take exception to the disparaging remarks about 'our' Nancy Pelosi ,here in the Bay Area she is seen as a moderate, similar to Diane Feinstien,
Have to agree with you on the Clinton woman though , I lost all repect for her when she didn't use the iron skillet on 'I never had sex with that woman' Bill .
its all checks and balances, every time you guys in the South elect some scary monster , like mommie dearest Elizabeth Dole, we in the west will elect another Barbara Boxer

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Elizabeth Dole "a scary monster," what did you ever think of old Jesse Helms?:D

Brian

Oh yeah, and my "kin" is most all from New England So I'll raise ya Barbara Boxer and give ya a Barney Franks!

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I could respect good ole Jesse , he was a bigoted pig , but he knew it and one could disagree but respect his views ,
Mommie Dearest Dole was the President of the American Red Cross and drew thousands in salary whilst charging working class Americans hundreds of dollars for a pint of donated blood (American Red Cross is in control of blood donations in the US) she reminds me of a botoxed Margaret Hamilton character in the Wizard of Oz movie

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hey the folks in Mass march to a different drummer , why else keep electing Teddy 'killer' Kennedy for all these years , McCain is talking out of both sides of his mouth , also I seem to remember he was involved in the savings and loan scandal a few years back . No one is stirring my interest for 08 , maybe Evah Byah from Indiana ? , forget Barack Obama , no way will America vote for a guy with the middle name Hussien , Guliani is an outsider , dont think middle(rattle snake handling) America will take to a New yorker who shares an apartment with two gay room-mates

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Yea, good old Ted. It would be a good idea to make him the designated driver for all personnel attending democratic party conferences.

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Well said JohnW. How bout Bill "I never . . ." Clinton being in charge of the entertainment?

All our northern families live in Rhode Island where Patrick "the dunce" Kennedy is a congressman. I guarantee he will never lose an election. Those states are 140% democratic (when you count the votes from the cemetaries):o

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I hope you're not suggesting that there is any corruption in the home of democracy?

Why fiddle-di-de.:D

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No the Republicans would never stoop that low. :rolleyes:

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