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Yea, was as warm as toast last night, had central heating put in yesterday. Got up this morning to boost it for 1 hour and i have a red flashing light on the boiler. Cant ignite the damn thing :confused: .... will have to wait till later for the electricians to do it when they come around to put in the thermostat on the wall and strip out the old economy 7 heating wires.

Got to give the lads their dues, the team i had were lovely, polite and respected my home.

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Check the pressure in the system, if it has a small leak it will lose pressure and shut down to protect the pump

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Hi Ian
The electricains are upstairs now in Debbies flat, ill collar one when i hear him coming down the stairs :D
Trust me to get the iffy boiler, lol.

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Ian
Just had the electricain come and check it, the plumbers need to come back, as its lost its pressure.
Cheers for that.

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I have to wait for my new central heating and as I understand it everything comes out radiators hot water tank boiler electrics etc. I am lead to believe that it will be very messy and will take half a dozen of them several hours. :(

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Is it the new heating system that the council are putting in as part of the takeover?

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Yes accymel, its the one the council are putting in as part of the takeover.
It is quite messy, they put cloths down over your carpet but when they are having to drill through solid concrete walls dust gets everywhere. Ill take some photos of the plumbing, youll laugh your pants off !

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Right now bearing in mind, im in a ground floor flat with concrete flooring, hence drilling through walls .... Upstairs flats have the piping running down the wall from the loft. Dont know how houses are done or if they lift the floor boards up.

I am led to believe that the piped will be boxed in, but dont know when. The electricians will be in later to rip out old wiring, dont know how messy that will be or what the walls will look like after ...... watch this space.

Nobody as of yet, that i know has been told or recieved any form of compensation for redecorating.

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They should box in the pipes or your kids could accidentally burn themselves on them. (they would be expected to know a radiator is hot, not so a pipe) It will also make them easier to decorate (paint etc)

One thing to watch with teh boiler is that whilst they do need an occasional top up it shouldn't be more than once a month or so. Any more and get them back to check teh expansion chamber as it is a duff one of these that tends to squirt water out the safety valve to be vented outside(Dont ask how I know this Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)

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The reason the boiler will not run if the system pressure is low is not only to protect the pump. The system pressure is the only way the boiler knows there is any water in the system.

I don't like the fact they have fitted thermostatic valves and then surface run all the circulation pipes. If they are not at least boxed in, insulated would be ideal, your thermostatic valve will shut off when the room is warm enough but, the room will still be heated by the pipes themselves.
When you use thermostatic valves the heating is on all the time as selected on the time switch, and water is running around the pipes. Each thermostatic valve opens and closes as needed to keep the room at the temperature set on the valve. The burner comes on and off to keep the circulating water hot enough. If you are loosing heat from the circulation pipes the burner will run more often using more gas. On a system where all the pipes are run on the walls without any insulation like your new system is, you might find some room are too hot even with the radiator valve turned off.

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IIRC at least one radiator has to be open valved anyway or it can cause the boiler to break. (I seem to think that was what we were told by our plumber, we chose the towel radiator in teh bathroom). Our boiler only runs for a couple of hours each day for heating water is on demand

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Blimey we've got that to come yet although looking forward to a nice warm house but sounds like its going to be an upheaval, tho nice pipes :rofl38:

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats Neil ..... very technical stuff there. lol . Plumber has just been and done the pressure, checked all radiators are ok and not leaking . Says it could have been the plumbing settling in and that caused the pressure drop.

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That is what a lot of plumbers think. You can add a bypass valve in the circuit but many boilers have them built in. When all the valves close there is no return path for the water to flow so the pump tries to pump to a dead end which is bad for the pump and boiler. A bypas valve will open when system pressure increase ie when all the radiator valves are closed, to allow the water to flow still. The above system has a flow and return pipe running around the house, a bypass valve should be fitted joining the end of these 2 pipes together to allow flow if all the radiator valves are closed.

I personally think having a radiator without a thermostatic valve is a stupid idea. They normally choose to do it to the bathroom radiator so the bathroom is mad hot all day long.

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Hey Jimmi5

We've just had a letter over weekend that the heating inspectors are coming round this week & that work on the new heating systems will be in the next few weeks {hopefully** gee talk about quick & hope its not too close to xmas, are they ok?

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The lads that came in and did mine were absolutely fantastic. OK you do get a mess from the drilling and the dust especially as they have drilled through walls with mine being a flat, but they clean up as best they can. The electrcians come around the day after so everything is up in the air again. The 3rd day they come around and flush out your system with some sort of protector liquid. Just waiting for the joiners now to box in some of the pipes.

I am however gobsmacked though at the amount British Gas has gone up. Gone through approx £17 in Gas since last Wednesday night. :( . Have got my central heating on now just for 1 hour, taken note of how much credit i have on the meter and will check again when that 1 hour is up, hopefully this will tell me how much i need to put on for the week and just how much "warmth" i can afford.

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Cool:D cant wait to have a warm house for a change but yeh the cost of running it worries me a little, im putting close to £10 a week already just to use the one fire & cooker per week & still end up on emergency. Looking forwad to constant hot water & might actually save me a fortune in leccy, so probably balance it out as im currently on the owd econ 7 & owd blowers that dont work cept 1. In my old house the central heating was really economical £10 per week & never on emergency plus the hosue was always warm in fact too warm sometimes, i would of thought they would put an economical boiler in being a new one:confused:

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Right did the 1 hour check, the meter showed up at only taking off 20p for that hour but bearing in mind i didnt run any hot water, Tomorrow i will do the 1 hour check again, this time running off some hot water....say, half a bath to see what that will cost.
My other house going back 2 years ago had central heating and that used approx £10 a week but now we have had a 40% increase in the price of gas that means another £4 + extra.
I reckon its going to take about £15-£18 a week on the meter. :( + £20 a week on my electric :( .....

Also ive noticed my meter is still clocking down my credits when nothing is being used on the gas :( .... rip off turds ! :)

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:eek: the fun & games i've got to yet contend with - the price of warmth hehehehehe. Yeh thats the downside of pre payment meters will still clock up a small amount even tho not using any, tho u will be keeping a pilot light alight.

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WE are waiting for them to put ours in, the old boiler went for a burton we got a grant though Homewise, they have insulated the loft etc can't wait to get new system in it's costing a fortune for electric fires and immersion heater, so if you read this mr installer please hurry up.

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Heheheehehe & same said for Mr Surveyor of heating systems too [no doubt turn up whilst out an all]:rolleyes:

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We have had him, he said a week to 14 days that was above a fortnight ago, said we were prioity as we are struggling with hot water, probably tells them all the same tale lol.

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Ahhh will be able to let you know if they use that line then:rolleyes: :D

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The company is called Iguana, he will also tell you that 'because it's you' ill put the same boiler in that I have at home, he doesn't need to give us any sales talk DEFRA are paying not me, i'll be glad to get it installed.

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Yeh i'll probably get that - how come they always say that yet i bet they haven't :rolleyes: :confused:

Our is a company called Cruden.

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Probably to soften us up for a load of you know what that takes 2 hours to fill the bath lol.

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LOL when they come & they dare to offer their standard comments i will fill the bath eventually & prove a point wonder if i get the tuts & hmmmmms & then "itll be right" :D

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Just had a good laugh it says on the order form 'Iguana turning up the heat on service' i'll try turning up the heat on them tomorrow.:Banane29:

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The Cruden guys are all really nice....Honest. Couldnt fault any of them. They actually come into your home and respect you and your property, not like the councils lads who im sure have competitions as to how much damage they can cause.
Just had Crudens plasterer around today, he not only filled in any work left from the heating being put in, he also rectified some of HBC shoddy workman ship for me, which he didnt need too. :D

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:mad: :mad: :mad: Afetr having to have my boiler bump started nearly every morning cause it kept loosing pressure and not working, the boiler manufactorers had to come around to it today :eek: ... Fingers crossed it works ok, from now on....

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We had something similar, turned out to be a faulty expansion chamber

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Something simular here plus the fact every time they turned up in the mornings to bump up the pressure they was putting air in the pipes as well ...

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Heh, we don't(except for the main fire and a couple of oil filled rads), we are decorating at the min and as I was walking past teh downstairs bathroom at 8:45 I heard running water. But none of us had been in the bathroom so I went to investigate further only to find teh flexible pipe to the hot tap has split wide open and boiling water is squirting everywhere. So its a sudden try and remember which tap on teh pipes under the boiler turns teh water supply off. so no heating or hot water till tomorrow :(

Ah well, at least it didn't happen when we had gone to bed or it would have been going all night!

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yes its a good job you heard it. If it had been me, with being hearing impaired i wouldnt have.

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I do find it laughable that they had to call the boiler manufacturers out to sort out the problem. Can plumbers only fix leaks these days?

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I guess its something to do with the warranty, bit like a ps2 aint it, open it and break the seal and sony dont want to know. :p

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Well we've still had no visit from cruden inspectors as far as central heating goes as stated 3 weeks ago but they have been installing it at one house across the rd & one round corner seems that they are picking one or two houses then leaving the rest:confused:

Me & tinks have got an estimated bet when they will turn up i recon after xmas Tinks recons they will start on day before they finish for xmas leaving our house in a mess during xmas :rolleyes: lol

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Ring HBC and ask them for an approx date, what happened with us we got a 4 week warning letter, then a 2 week one, but in small writing was a telephone number to ring up. Ring that number and they then book you in and give you a date they will come around and start.

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Yeh tried to earlier on 300530 is that the right one as its on the letter but all i get is an answer machine saying ring back [i take it they have a lot of complaints already]:(

Ooopppss scrap that somebody eventually answered the phone - wayheyyyy, they are going to check & get back to me probably tommorow with a date in mind - hopefully not 22nd of Dec lol

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Fingers crossed for you.

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Well welcome accymel to choas hehehehe blower heaters are being taken out tommorow, then thursday its the central heating installers:D

Downside was & is shifting my stuff about out of the way, still a bit to do as mainly for tommoz is just making plenty of room for them to take the heaters out, then its make massive way for the radiators, just godknows where to put my babies my fishes tank so they are safe from the disruption & near plug to keep filter going, ahhhhh choas chaos chaos LOL!

Gee feels like im moving house LOL

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Take the fish tank round to tinks mel - she'll look after em for you!

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Bloody got up really early ready for early start that the council could come as typically usual i could of stayed in bed till usual time :rolleyes: still waiting altho one bloody blower heater that was turned off yesterday morning 1st thing is still quite warm even now despite no power to it at all - typical it usually goes cold quite quick - maybe it dont want to move out:eek:

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Did the world look different when it's dark in the morning ? :D

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LOL cheeky b*gger yes it did it looked like night time & felt like the middle of the night:(

The heating surveyor has just been round, to make sure everything is ready for tommoz & that the heaters will be taken out today but i got a telling off for the hall storage one that has been off over 24hrs but is still quite warm [unusually] he said if its still warm they wont take it out till tommorow & can slow things down ...hummmmph so i got the front door ajar a bit to hopefully freeze it up ...omg its bloody cold!! heater still warm :(

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I presume thats the standard blow heaters in Council House?

God I remember when I liven in One, FREEZING isnt the word, used to have it on full blast and sit right infront of it.

Did nothing to warm the house up unless it was on all the time.

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Yes it those ones only can afford to run one over night which is the hallway one & yes u have to touch it for any warmth except today where it hasnt been on for over 24 hrs & now decideds to stay warm:confused:

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I really hated them heaters, In fact I remember there was NO heating upstairs just 3 things downstairs, totally Useless.

I would be worried if its warm and not been on fro 24hrs, you cant smell burning can you.:D

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We've got them in all main rooms downstairs & upstairs waste of bloody leccy usually. I've sniffed it & theres no burning or owt just cold on the ousides of it cept the middle bit is still quite warm & omitting a bit of heat - door opened full & gee if that dont cool it down nowt will & im sat next to the fire & i can feel the draft:confused:

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You must be lucky then we only had downstairs heating.

You have the door open now. are you mad its FREEEEEEZING.

Ah a Fire havent liven in a house with one of those for a good 5 years, how I miss them. Even looking at a fire can make you feel warm, doesnt seem to work on a radiator.:D

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Ah suppose but honestly they dont work anyways no point putting them on so technically no heating up there anyways.

It is absolutely freezing & im hugging me fire nearly, but need to cool this heater before they come so least can get them all taken out all at once especially as thats where the radiator is going tommoz:rolleyes:

Fires look warm as well as direct than radiators i didnt have one in my other house & when i got this one ...it was oooh i got a fire:D but its still cold as it cant heat the 2 rooms [as its a thro lounge & dinning room].

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Ye they are a rubbish Idea.

If its not cool im sure the workman will just take it anyways. Radiators, better than them stupid blow heaters.

But a fire is Instant warm, I suppose you dont reallise how warm they are untill you havent got one.:(

I find my biggest problem is you heat the house up, someone opens the front door and whoosh its all gone.

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Hehehehehehe i so hope so its not hot yeh usually when door is left open heating disappears but this bloody one blower in hall is proving to be stubborn about it, its not getting colder despite the door being right near it blowing the cold air in:eek: :D

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If it's not cold when school finishes put your daughter in a bad mood and then get her to stare at it. That will freeze it :D :D

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Just chuck some cold water on it. :)

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Most females could probably do that.:D :D

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GGGGRRRRR! They cant take the hall way one out will have to come back tommoz the bricks are too hot:(

They are ripping others out as we speak

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It sounds to me like you mean the gas fired hot air heating, and yes it is rubbish.
I think Mel has electric storage heaters - they heat up bricks inside them over night and allow the heat out slowly through vents during t he day - also a rubbish idea, unless you are psychic and know today how cold it will be tomorrow.
Have you turned the heat up to full Mel so it opens the vents inside and lets the heat out?

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Soft bar stewards - tell them to get some gloves.

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Yeh it is storage heaters with bricks inside [hehehehe got to see them lol] the one in hall is still hot in the middle & with H&S suppose they cant, but he said that they are tempermental like that in sods law & that i did right, he said no worries they'll be here at 8am with the load of central heating engineers & will take it out then 5 mins of job. Bless them they are gentlemen even took their boots off at the doorstep before entering house until leaving - very nice men:D

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So my hall heater stays another day awwww bless it didnt want to go:D

Lives another day & will RIP tomoz

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What a bunch of wimps.:D

Yes thats them absolute waste of space. just blow hot air out of 3 vents, to heat a full house.

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Anyone have any idea how much it costs to have central heating installed? It would be for an average 2 bed terrace.

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Anyone noticed an update on this thread from the heating installation ?

The heating must be working and it's too bloody hot now to type :D

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Please try not to get paint all over the radiators, like you did with the storage heaters, when you next decorate. :rolleyes: :D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...7&d=1169034928

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I have HEATING WHOOHOOO!!!:D

Like the tropics now in comparrison to earlier full scale hurricane blowing thro house NO heating typical i chose a good tday for it lol, yes the hall heater left home this morning for the new radiators, they was here bang on 8am & finished by 3.30pm ALL done bar kitchen one which cant be done till kitchens have beens sorted...hey i have instant hot water now that is novel no waiting for tank to heat up or worry of running out of hot water & no freezing upstairs:D

Rang leccy co up & they are going to take out the econ 7 meter - at long last in 2 weeks:D

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If your'e thinking of having a bath in the morning better start running it now. The one disadvantage to instant hot water lol.

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No too bloody busy putting stuff back & re arrange my kitchen as i lost 3 cupboards not 1, the double one was my food cupboard!!! so tins & stuff all on the side atm till i find a home for them now:rolleyes: & now too bloody tired - early mornings are gruelling!!

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Bog orf:p :D

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awww bless :rolleyes:

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Dont matter i know no different anyway my old one weren't exactly quick:rolleyes: