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accymel 16-11-2006 14:24

Hospital referrals
 
Following on from discussion Doctors appointments I've just rang again & now they have changed the system yet again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Now i have to go in to pick up a pre printed letter with a password on & details of hospital/consultants etc & u ring the number & you can book over the phone your appointment & choose where & who with also you'll know the waiting lists etc, rather than the old way, now is this true or am i being really fobbed off this time & are all doctors following this practice ??? Cos if its a load of bolony then im changing doctors asap!


Lettie could u shed some light on it please:D

silvermain 16-11-2006 14:44

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From the reports ive seen on the new system you can see alot of info such as what you have said.

lettie 16-11-2006 14:53

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This sounds like it stems from the patient choice agenda. All patients now have a right to choose where they will be treated and which consultant they wish to be treated by. It is probably your surgery's way of letting you choose. It seems a bit of a rigmarole to go through when all you want is an appointment to see a consultant. My advice would be that if you have seen a consultant before and are happy with that consultant, also if your problem is one that the consultant is aware of then just ring the hospital switchboard and ask to speak to his/her secretary. You can always tell the secretary that you were told to ring if there were any further problems. This won't get you any further up the waiting list but it will get you an appointment. Bear in mind that waiting lists for an outpatient appointment are nowhere near as long as they used to be due to having to reach targets.

WillowTheWhisp 16-11-2006 15:10

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When I get referred by my doctor I subsequently get a phone call from some patient services or something which offers me a choice of different hospitals most of which are totally impractical so I choose Blackburn cos it's the nearest.

accymel 16-11-2006 15:33

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Originally Posted by lettie
This sounds like it stems from the patient choice agenda. All patients now have a right to choose where they will be treated and which consultant they wish to be treated by. It is probably your surgery's way of letting you choose. It seems a bit of a rigmarole to go through when all you want is an appointment to see a consultant. My advice would be that if you have seen a consultant before and are happy with that consultant, also if your problem is one that the consultant is aware of then just ring the hospital switchboard and ask to speak to his/her secretary. You can always tell the secretary that you were told to ring if there were any further problems. This won't get you any further up the waiting list but it will get you an appointment. Bear in mind that waiting lists for an outpatient appointment are nowhere near as long as they used to be due to having to reach targets.

Cheers Lettie for explaining it to me it mashed my head when i rung - cos last time i saw the consultant it was under the old system, im probably better going with the consultant thats dealt with him before since birth so would be as easy just to ring up to speak to the consultants secretary as they are expecting this referral soon anyway.

I just wish they told me this a couple of days ago so seems the receptionists dont communicate rather than peeing me about:(

grannyclaret 16-11-2006 15:48

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If you want to book a ambulance to take you to hospital for an out patient appointment you now have to ring a number with a reference number,,and they dont half keep you hanging on that phone... once upon a time we just asked the receptionist at the doctors to book you one..

accymel 20-11-2006 12:42

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Right more to the sagar & difficulty of getting a referal.

Just done as Lettie suggested, rang main line & got thro to the consultants secretary only to be told i cant do it that way & that i need a GP letter, only prob is getting a GP letter when the gp surgery changes its protocols that dont match anywhere else ie going down for a letter with p/word details of consultants blah blah, the secretary hasn't heard of this ventre certainly not for referals - so what is my GP surgery playing at:confused:

The only other way is letter from school doc or going to casualty, - how mental is that for a congential condition:angry: i shouldnt be taking up their time this should be my GP's job but yet im being fobbed off by my surgeries receptionists who each tell me a different rule. I cant change GP's yet if the the referal has gone thro as interchange between consultant & GP will be messed up :angry: So awaiting school to get back to me if they can do it - feel so bad having to put this on them, sat here bloody annoyed & upset that a basic request is causing this chaos!!

Please tell me i dont have to interupt Mr Pope yet again:(

Ianto.W. 20-11-2006 13:03

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 336285)
When I get referred by my doctor I subsequently get a phone call from some patient services or something which offers me a choice of different hospitals most of which are totally impractical so I choose Blackburn cos it's the nearest.

That's ok if they have the equipment to treat your complaint, if you need special 'scans' etc or heart lung tratment you have to go to Preston or Blackpool, believe me it is a real pain in the kneck.

accymel 20-11-2006 13:07

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 336285)
When I get referred by my doctor I subsequently get a phone call from some patient services or something which offers me a choice of different hospitals most of which are totally impractical so I choose Blackburn cos it's the nearest.

So really it doesn't really benefit patients anyway - certainly those that dont drive or have commitments at home:confused:

So your GP did a referal? so it wasn't like what i was told about getting a letter & me ring patient services asking for what i wnat etc???:confused:

All this fandangles are confusing me completely after getting told one thing or another, so really is it making it easier or like me blaming harder certainly for a re-ocurring condition that one consultant locally deals with anyway:confused:

jimmi5bellies 21-11-2006 15:56

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My doc last night has ordered more xrays on my back, neck and heart .... he never asked me which hospital id like them to be done at.

WillowTheWhisp 21-11-2006 16:15

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It sounds like you are really being messed bout Mel. It would be driving me up the wall.

Ianto, they only give options obviously of hospitals which are able to do the necessary proceedure. Until recently I would have had to go to Blackpool but fortunately some new things have been transferred to Blackburn now.

WillowTheWhisp 21-11-2006 16:16

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Originally Posted by jimmi5bellies (Post 337883)
My doc last night has ordered more xrays on my back, neck and heart .... he never asked me which hospital id like them to be done at.


You'll probably get a phone call from "patient services" unless it's a continuation of previous treatment.

accymel 21-11-2006 16:32

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 337899)
It sounds like you are really being messed bout Mel. It would be driving me up the wall.

Yeh its driving me round the bend i really dont understand the need for this messing cos really do you get much of a choice when limited?? I have to go down to gp receptionist tommoz am thats if my shopping comes cant change at such short notice!! panalty for havign no transport again :( Im feeling really peed off with the world atm, least the school nurse managed to sort another referal [not connected] but not the hospital one yet i have to do this new system thats in place which im really not at all happy about - why couldnt they of left it as it was :(

Ianto.W. 21-11-2006 18:35

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 337899)
It sounds like you are really being messed bout Mel. It would be driving me up the wall.

Ianto, they only give options obviously of hospitals which are able to do the necessary proceedure. Until recently I would have had to go to Blackpool but fortunately some new things have been transferred to Blackburn now.

I must admit, the 'PET' scans can only be done in certain places, they made me radio active, the nurse said"stay away from pegnant ladies" not much effort needed there., even the non preggers type do that.

WillowTheWhisp 21-11-2006 18:45

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I could have gone to some far distant place if I'd fancied it but what would have been the point when they have the same facilities closer to home? My GP informed me that the funding would follow me wherever I chose to go.

Maybe they'll get PET scans at Blackburn too eventually.

Ianto.W. 21-11-2006 18:54

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 338032)
I could have gone to some far distant place if I'd fancied it but what would have been the point when they have the same facilities closer to home? My GP informed me that the funding would follow me wherever I chose to go.

Maybe they'll get PET scans at Blackburn too eventually.

Just to set the record straight, it was a mobile unit at Preston Royal it did not belong to the NHS, it cost £1000.00 per person to go through it, the NHS paid for it, anyone wanting to knock the NHS is on a looser with me.

WillowTheWhisp 21-11-2006 19:08

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So how come the NHS hasn't got its own?

Ianto.W. 21-11-2006 19:17

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 338064)
So how come the NHS hasn't got its own?

I do not know 'Willow' they had two waggons there, it was like the old 'Mass Mobile Radiography Unit' we had as kid's, it is new technology may be that is why, whether it is any use I do not know as my results are not yet forthcoming, regards Ian.

accymel 22-11-2006 08:59

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Oh the sager still continues - gee this system isn't any easier, just rang patient services & basically even with the choices your supposed to have theres only one for me - doh thats what ive been saying all along!!! Basically they are going to ring me back next wed when they have assessed the referal & they decide the best consultant ----- errrrrrmmmmmmmm CONFUSED!!! I thought this system meant that the options were open for the patient to decide with the given options - so whats the point in changing the system?!?!!? In my case theres only one consultant for the job anyway but still have to wait for them to decide the case now ggggrrrr:(

Ianto.W. 22-11-2006 12:22

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Accymel In my case there's only one consultant for the job anyway but still have to wait for them to decide the case now ggggrrrr
Correct there is only one for each type of complaint in East Lancs, if you require a lung surgeon you may have to go to Blackpool, also if it's heart.
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WillowTheWhisp 22-11-2006 12:37

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I saw heart specialist at Blackburn this week Ianto. They told me that until recently it would have been Blackpool for the procedure but now they've got the necessaries at Blackburn.

Good luck Mel with eventually getting somewhere. It's crazy that it is such a convoluted mess. Have you still got your hair on?

Ianto.W. 22-11-2006 12:49

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 338522)
I saw heart specialist at Blackburn this week Ianto. They told me that until recently it would have been Blackpool for the procedure but now they've got the necessaries at Blackburn.

Good luck Mel with eventually getting somewhere. It's crazy that it is such a convoluted mess. Have you still got your hair on?

Just rung my consultants office they say they will try to fit me in, as they now do a fortnightly clinic at Blackburn, but only when they know what to treat, as some of the 'specialist equiptment is not in place yet at Blackburn. Best of luck Accymel keep 'dogging' them.

accymel 22-11-2006 14:35

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 338522)
Good luck Mel with eventually getting somewhere. It's crazy that it is such a convoluted mess. Have you still got your hair on?

Thanks willow - yeh i've a few strands left after pulling it all out with the messing around :D

accymel 22-11-2006 14:37

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W. (Post 338528)
Best of luck Accymel keep 'dogging' them.

Cheers Ianto, tho i think that might go a little too far :eek: i dont do dogging:eek: :D tho i will keep pestering them :D

shillelagh 22-11-2006 21:05

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I go to Preston to visit the neurologist. The one I used to go to many years ago before he signed me off was at Bury General but he retired and Bury shut!
I've never had any problems about referrals - my doctor sends a letter and i receive an appointment. Good luck mel it sounds like you need it.


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