Should a drug addict be given a regular fix by the NHS?
 

The assistant chief constable of the Nottinghamshire force has come up with a radical idea.

He suggests that drug addicts should receive their daily fix from the NHS, although he specifically mentioned heroin. Some areas already do this where the addicts are given the required dose and watched by a nurse or doctor as they inject themselves. It was reported that drug related crime in those areas has been reduced substantially.

Let us look at this suggestion with a cold and clinical outlook and keep emotion out of the equation.

The war on drug addiction has been fought for more than 30 years and the situation is worse today than it was 30 years ago. So the battle has not been effective and it is time to try a different approach.

It has been claimed that an addict needs about £45,000 per year to feed his/her habit whereas supplying the drug would cost the NHS around £12,000. That £45,000 comes from burglaries and muggings. In other words from us. The £12,000 comes from our taxes.

If an addict were able to get his/her fix from a legitimate source for free s/he would not have a reason to commit crime to get the money to pay for the drug. This in turn would put a huge hole in the dealers’ earnings and probably drive them out of business. That can only be a good thing.

Now I wonder who is going to be the first to broach the stupid retort of “let’s give burglars household goods so they won’t have to go thieving” or “let’s supply paedophiles with children to prevent them from attacking kids”?

This issue is about drug addicts and how to counter them and the crimes that they commit to feed the habit in the most cost effective way.

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No................................................ .......

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in a word NO.:(

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drug adicts should be given 1 chance to clean their act up then left to die if they start again

sory but no one forces anyone to put a needle in tehir arm or whatever method they use and its their own bloody fault

i am willing to comprimise if they pay tax on their drugs but they dont

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Apparently some GP's already supply clinical heroin Diamorphine, rather than Methadone, to long term addicts, and crime in those areas has decreased.

I can see both sides of the arguments, but under prohibition history has shown us that drugs like prostitution don't just go away, they are just swept under the carpet, and in the long term create more problems for society in general than if they were legalised.

That said, giving addicts heroin in the long term, without making them want to try and rehabilitate, does make it look like a reward. Especially as in parts of the country women whose chances of beating breast cancer if they receive treatment early, are being denied drugs because some health authorities say they can't afford it.

Too difficult a question. I'm abstaining.

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NO. That's my first and probably 2nd, 3rd, and 4th answer. Any repeat offended gets very long jail time!

However, to show a gentler side: How bout the State offer those "addicts" that get caught breaking the law one and only one chance to "get clean." The State then pays for ~30 days of confinement, counsellings, anti-drug drugs, etc. All this should be through Cold Turkey.

Once released, heck the State can even supply the former addict a temp. job to get his confidence back and all. Dag, I sound like a liberal but I'm just trying to offer another way. Like jambutty says other ways haven't seemed to work very well.

Over here in my area its crystal meth. that is really destroying people. Supposedly one of the most addictive drugs. These addicts will do absolutely anything to get their next fix. Very sad!

Brian

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How about giving the pushers a free needle.....A LETHAL ONE.....

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nice one grannyclaret.

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Mmm, my 2p on this

initially I thought, good idea, after all we currently spend more on trying to stop drugs arriving in this country than it would cost to buy up teh whole Afgan opium crop(Which is where I believe over 95% of UK heroin comes from). Then as mentioned there is the cost of goods etc that are stolen to fund habits(including rising Insurance premiums) and also the cost of investigating/policing these crimes. We all winge that there aren't enough Police on the beat, remove the overhead of dealing with results of drug crime and we will probably be able to have a copper on every street corner. Then there is the matter of injuries/deaths caused during muggings etc by drug addicts looking to fund their next fix. Try telling a grieving widow that her husband died because we aren't prepared to give addicts their fix for free.

There has long been calls to legalise and monitor prostitution, the advantages are always mentioned of cleaning up the industry, protecting the girls/boys from violence/slavery, taxing the income( :D ) but the whole focus seems to be on making it a safer environment for all parties, By setting up safe environments for drug use would it encourage new users? I doubt it. I'm sure some people start using drugs because of the 'look at me I'm a rebel' rather than any actual desire to become a junkie, its just that they get caught up in teh chemical dependancy. Legalising it removes that appeal. As for pushers looking for new trade, I don't think that would happen, people are either going to do it or they aren't. even if ther was a small increase initially the supply(non users who may be tempted) is not inexhaustable and like a pyramid scam,would soon run out.

However on the flip side it does seem a strange way of dealing with the problem. making it freeley available alongside free extensive rehabilitation may be an answer. Difficult one to choose really but I think the pro's outweigh the cons to me, I'm a yes

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Because you are leaving the underlying infrastructure(pushers etc) there for them to fall back into their old ways/re-offend. Giving the stuff away in safe controlled enviroments removes the infrastucture as there is no money there to pay for it. Whats the point of selling something that there is no market for anymore.

I commented that we should offer them rehab. I believe that there is no point in 'forcing' people through rehab as they need to admit their problem and want to deal with it before it can be of any use. Just like alcoholics need to admit their problem before they can be helped.

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I voted No, though I do think we should help those who want to be helped and eventually weaned off the drug.

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Alcohol is just as much an addictive drug as hard drugs WillowTheWhisp. It just takes longer and more of it as any alcoholic would testify to, if they were able.

If our police force were, as is often stated, the best in the world, the pushers and dealers would all be languishing in jail. But the reality is that pushers and dealers ply their trade with as close to impunity as you can get.

The way to solve the drug problem is two fold. Destroy the pushers and dealers market, which is not happening. Stop the pushers and dealers from getting a supply, which happens from time to time. Although those in the know reckon that barely 10% is intercepted.

I doubt very much if an ordinary non-drug using person wakes up one morning with the thought in mind that later that day they will shoot up with heroin. Most if not all will fall into the drug habit by accident or coercion and that makes them as much a victim as the owner of a house that is burgled.

As entwisi has stated a drug addict cannot be forced off the drug, s/he has to want to do it and thus s/he will need help. Thus the issue of drugs should come with counselling and positive help in getting off the drug. As for those that do not want to come off drug addiction, are we just going to go on letting them commit crimes to feed their habit, or are we going to give them their fix and thus remove the need to rob? And at the same time destroy the pushers and dealers market.

In parallel with this philosophy we need to EDUCATE the young of the dangers of addiction with seriously explicit films and lectures. Frighten them into seeing the reality of drug taking.

As I understand it, Afghanistan is the world’s major supplier of opium and pharmaceutical companies buy some of it legitimately to produce it’s by products for legitimate medical use. The Afghan farmers are being encouraged and helped to grow other crops but sadly the world trade is such that they do not get a fair price for their new crops so they revert back to poppies where they know that they can make a decent living. Of course some are bullied by the drug barons into growing poppies rather than other crops but that is the power of the drug barons.

If the World Bank would buy ALL the opium product at a guaranteed price of at least 20% above what the drug barons would pay then surely the farmers would go along with that. Would you sell your wares for £100 when you could get £120 or more from someone else? In order to prevent the drug barons from fighting back and intimidating the farmers it would need the UN to offer them protection until an Afghan army could do the job. The upshot of this would be to deny the drug barons a source of illegal drugs, the farmers would make a decent living and Afghanistan as a whole would benefit.

With no supply and no market the illegal drugs industry would hopefully collapse.

There is also another plus side to controlling the illegal drugs industry and that is no more syringes discarded where kids can find them.

Anyone who has ever bought a cheap something from a guy on the street or in the pub is as much a part of the problem as the dealer and addict. If, and it is a BIG IF, if the general public refused to buy that dirt cheap telly, or whatever, the junkie would not be able to sell it.

One final point. This idea of giving drug users heroin on the NHS is currently being trailed in London and a couple of other places and so far the results are very encouraging. In that crime is down in those areas and some addicts are seeing the error of their ways and taking positive steps to get off drugs.

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I just cant get my head round the fact that people want go on drugs in the first place,when they can see the consequences ..maybe i have missed something ,,,

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Cutting drugs off at the source is the only way to try to solve the problem, only then can you look at weaning the addicts off on the NHS,cancer patients are being denied access to life saving drugs so you can not justify giving drugs that threaten life to people who take them by choice.

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Also if the druggies get safe pure herion and other drugs that have not been cut with talc, battery acid,and all the other harmfull substances , they won't be has much of a burden on the NHS . Everytime they bust a drug ring the price of the drug goes up, so instead of nicking one video player they need three, I,am all for them getting it free, the only thing that I,am not sure about is them driving cars and going to work,they will have to be monitored,after they get there fix,

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Hence my call for a safe environment for them to get their fix.

I disagree Ianto, you will never cut off the supply without buying it all in the first place as jambutty said and then they will just grow more, its a never ending cycle. By giving them enough to feed their habit the market disappears almost overnight.

My thoughts are with the thousands/millions of people who suffer as a result of drug related crime, not teh hundreds that are the cause

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no would be the anser the N.H.S. Could spend money on better things.

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Isn't the whole point that there would be more than enough savings by doing this that teh NHS etc would be better off?

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the whole point is these pricks shouldt have taken drugs in the first place and deserve everything they get

most druggies steal and commit even worse crimes before they even consider coming off drugs and the sickening thing is an old woman for example that is robbed by a drug addict will probably spend teh rest of her life scared witless of leaving their door unlocked or even walk into teh street while the person who attacked her can go get their free high on the NHS

if anything the NHS shoudl give them all one huge overdose and save a lot of people the agony of been mugged , burgled or worse

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Theres no fking way i am working my ass off for a big wage then have more took off me to give crack heads an easy life all they care about is smack.

Yeah dealers will stop selling heroin but they'll find another way to make money then when the goverment can't afford it anymore and the country is smack head land dealers will come back.

First they say it's fine for 30 year old men to bed 13 year old girls and now they are feeding the country on smack? this country has lost the plot ....

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Agreed. 100%!

If these weak-willed slackers want to waste their lives away on drugs, let's speed up the process for them. Give 'em something that is 100% pure, then box up and burn their sorry miserable carcass! Why should society keep wiping the arse & burping these wastes of oxygen? :(

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No time for druggies, its self-inflicted! God knows why they take it in the first place. waste of spacers if you ask me. they should all overdose, and for those on canabis .....WHY do you take it??? GET A LIFE!!

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Isn't it amazing that we can consider giving these people their fix for Free when we can't give the Alzheimers sufferers their drugs which cost £2.50 per day....we can't provide the folk suffering from bowel and bone cancer the drugs that would make their existence more bearable, and probably lengthen their lives too. Somewhere along the way we have got very mixed up in what is right and moral and what is wrong.

The drug addicts are suffering a plight of their own making. Some medical consultants won't treat smokers unless they quit, some surgeons will not treat obese people unless they lose weight...both groups of people are seen to be contributors to their own ill health......why should drug addicts be any different.

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WHY THE HELL SHOULD I PAY FOR THEIR DESTUCTIVE HABIT!!!!

If this became nation wide then were would it stop and how much would it cost? They give it to heroin addicts so do the cocain and crack addicts get the same response further down the road? Ok they were quoting figures but how accurate are they? If someone wants to shoot up heroin then let it be at their own expense not mine or that of those that they rob as it encourages them not to come of it and they would still commit crime for an extra fix. This is a case of the nanny state considering another easy fix instead of getting down to the nitty gritty. Is this a knee jerk reaction to the court case recently?

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I voted yes, mainly the same reasons that entwisi has mentioned. Also if an addict is given their fix in a safe environment it will cut crime.

Another reason no-one has mentioned is that it is actually easier to come off smack than methadone.

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There are other ways of treating drug addicts, giving them access to an unlimitted supply of the drugs is not the answer, if they can not access them through the 'normal' channels they will have to seek treatment, only then can you try to deal with the problem they have to want to be 'cured', giving drugs FOC will only make matters worse.

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how about lock em up and get em off it that way, and spend time helping the victims of these people i.e. their familes amongst others. cold turkey would save the NHS money rather than pandering to em.

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Amongst a lot of other things my hubby is a diabetic ,,he has two injections of insulin every day .
He never complains but i know he would prefer not to have the shots,, it makes you wonder how people can jab themselves by choice

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One regular comment seems to be that you don't want to pay for it.

What you seem to be missing is that we already pay for more than it would cost thus freeing up resources(both financial and nurses/police time). The NHS has to treat the results of their addiction be it them OD'ing, the injuries to people mugged and the support and care of elderly people who struggle to cope after break ins etc.

The cost of policing both the crime that occurs to pay for the drug and the supply chain itself from suppliers in Afganistan to the street level pushers is tremendous. The manpower involved is enormous.

Lets stop looking so introspectively and see what really matters in life, the protection and care of the law abiding majority. TBH I don't care too much whether the addicts choose to OD or take up the rehab as long as it makes teh streets safer, the nurses and poplice have more time and money to tackle other more important issues such as the supply of herceptin etc, tackling antisocial behaviour and making life generally better for the vast majority of us

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We aren't talking of unlimited supply here anyway that would kill them and remove teh problem wouldn't it? We have suffered illegal supply of drugs since well before Queen Victoria and have never stopped it yet, what makes anyone think we will ever stop it using the methods we are currently? I don't see it working and obviously teh number of addicts proves that we can't stop it. lets stop burying our heads in the sand safe in teh knowledge we are doing something. that something doesn't work, we need a new answer.

You may 'get them off' cold turkey and teh minute you release them they will be back to their old habit, what use is that to anyone. You wouldn't save a penny of NHS money.

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Go back and ask for some more??? why pay when its free somewhere else.

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completely agree with all your comments entwisi.... its the whole picture we need to look at not just the users!!

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So are they proposing a limitless supply?

I have more sympathy for the idea of methadone for those who are trying to get off the drugs than heroine to keep addicts in the manner to which they have become accustomed. It just seems morally wrong to offer a limitless supply of free drugs to addicts when cancer patients are dying because the NHS can't afford to treat them.

I lost a close family member because of financial lmitations in the NHS and my Dad had to pay all his life for medication just to keep him alive each day so he could go to work and pay more taxes and NI contributions, so it feels like adding insult to injury to be giving freebies to drug addicts. So much easier then to become an addict if you're not going to have to worry about how to afford the drugs.

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But Willow, I'm trying to get across that this process would be so much cheaper than the current process that people WOULD get the drugs/treatment that you describe as the NHS would then be able to afford them.

People don't go out to become addicts, as per previous posts. I can't answer for sure but I bet a lot of it is the "I can handle it", "I'm a rebel", "look at me I'm hard" type things that start it and then chemical dependancy takes over.

Be honest, if it was free would you take it? Nope, neither would I, neither would the vast majority of people. Keeping them in a manner they have become accustomed? Nope it wouldn't be that either. We need to keep them under control untill they want to come off it, then rehab them. there is no point in trying to force them off as they will just return to it as soon as there is an opportunity.

As I have said, we have been in teh same process of trying to stop supply and locking the users up for hundreds of years and haven't made teh slightest progress, it isn't working, why carry on blindly, A new solution is needed, it may work, it may not(although as you can tell I believe it has more chance) but I'd rather try than keep going with something we know doesn't work

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It’s all cloud cuckoo land stuff.. there is no way this proposal would be endorsed by any political party. In reality we are seeing more laws to restrict and maybe in the not to distant future even ban tobacco use. Does anyone really think heroin will be supplied to users on the NHS, and therefore be made legal? I'm stupid enough to use tobacco myself so why not give me and others, lets say 100 Bensons a week!

There is this a sort of myth being banded about that heroin addicts must go out doing burglaries every night to feed their £1000 a week habit...around 40% of heroin addicts hold down regular jobs and even with a high addiction would really spend £150 to £250 per week on the drug, of course its alot of money.

The majority of the rest who are not employed do get there income by criminal activity which is mostly street prostitution including pimps, the addicts who are shoplifters and burglars are in prison most months of the year.

To give free heroin to addicts would be useless in terms of cutting crime.. the ones employed would simply use the service and buy extra from the streets, the criminal addicts would do the same.

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Willow methadone is far more addictive than heroin which is why it so many revert to heroin during the program.

Entwisi is right it is better to take the market away from the dealers rather than try and take the dealers away from the market, as soon as one scumbag is banged up for supplying there is a queue to take its place. Why not try something radical and see how it goes, you never know it might just work. (One of the first Raving Monster Loony Party's policies was to lower the voting age to 16!! and who would have thought 35 years ago it would be illegal to sack a pregnant woman!!)

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Just get all the losers lock em up and let em go cold turkey, that way they will think twice taking them again!

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They know nothing of human rights Willow, ask any victim of their funding spree, it puts me in mind of an old saying "if there were no receivers there would be no theives" if there were no drugs there would be no addicts, as 'Rumpold' said I rest my case.

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The only people who are living in ‘cloud cuckoo land’ Mancie are those people who cannot think further than their own front door. Whether we like it or not there are drugs and current methods to get rid of drug addiction have not succeeded. In fact I would suggest that the drug addiction problem is much worse today than it was 50 years ago. This radical suggestion has at least got a chance of succeeding if proper, forceful and nitty gritty school education is also brought in and the source supply was bought up before the drug barons can get their hands on it.

Your tobacco or nicotine addiction as an analogy doesn’t hold water. You can get nicotine patches free from the NHS and free counselling. And to suggest being given 100 fags a week is rather silly. You would have to go the office that issues the fags every time that you wanted a smoke and smoke the fag in the presence of the doctor or nurse if you are trying to compare smoking with drug taking.

I agree with you Ianto.W. in that if no one would buy the stolen goods, no one would steal them. But the reality is that far too many people will buy something that is a lot cheaper than from bona fide sources, from a stranger. Surely people must realise that if they are offered a TV for $50 that would normally retail at several hundred, it has to be stolen from someone. But people don’t care that someone has gone through the trauma of having their house burgled because they are getting a bargain. Those people are as much to blame for the situation as the drug dealers.

Sadly though, you cannot un-invent or un-discover something so it is wishful thinking to rest your case on “if there were no drugs there would be no addicts”. The reality is that there AREDRUGS, DRUG BARONS, PUSHERS AND USERS and the users commit crimes to fund their habit. But that’s not all, many junkies end up seeking hospital treatment because of dirty needles, HIV, hepatitis, blood poisoning etc. and use up resources that could have been used to treat sick or injured people.

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Good piont, but I fail to see how passing the buck to the NHS will solve the problem.

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It wont. Certain people are looking for a way to be doing something to combat this somewhat hidious problem we have. Unfortunately I believe they have taken the easy route and not tackled the problem at the root of it all ie "why do people take heroin?"

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Here in Australia you can have your drugs tested for purity at concerts is that a waste of money and public resources,there are kids out there that will experiment and your not going to stop them,

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Hmm, just seen this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6157015.stm

Its effectively what we were discussing here with a different choice of drug

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No. And we should stop this insane "war on drugs." Prohibition never works. Just brings in the criminal element to promote the product. It would be far more cost effective to put resources into prevention and treatment programs. Presently, the government infringes on everyone's civil rights in an attempt to stop the flow of illegal drugs. In Atlanta this past week we had the spectacle of drug enforcement officers breaking down the door of some poor 92 year old lady because a "confidential informant" told the cops he had bought drugs at her house. The lady had no idea who these people were as they came crashing into her home. They were in plain clothes. I am sure she thought they were there to rob her. So she grabbed her gun and shot three of them.....although not fatally. However, they returned fire and killed her. There is going to be hell to pay for this. The "official" story has changed several times since the beginning of this week. The investigation continues.

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Why should we concentrate on maintaining addictions? Surely it would be far more cost effective to insist that addicts undergo treatment - but of course that involves them stopping taking drugs. Probably infringes their human rights. We could of course try very large doses of heroin, thus making the problem self-limiting - an addict could choose which course to take, treatment or an extremely short life. The emphasis should be on stopping drug taking, not encouraging idiots to do so by making it easy to get the stuff. What price someone saying "Well, it gives people a buzz, and if I can get it free I might as well try it? Add to that the fact that being a drug addict means that you can legitimately claim to be disabled, you get to live on the State as well.

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I think this is a bit of a toughy to vote yes or no on. I think there should be other circumstances taken in to account at the time of assessing the drug addict before providing he/she with a regular fix. If that person does not have the money to feed their habit, then surely it is better that they are provided with that fix. At least this way they won't be out stealing in order to get their fix, after all alot of crime is drug related. I don't think giving drug addicts a regular fix by the NHS should be seen as a long term solution. There needs to be more help and understanding in order to deal with the problems that surround drug abuse. Supplying regular fixes to drug addicts over a long period of time is going to put even more pressure on the tight budgets of the NHS. (Perhaps we should consider cold turkey, or is this infringing on their human rights?) :confused:

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The only thing this will do is bring addicts out into the open and make life harder for the ordinary citizen who has to go about their day to day business with these no hoper's lounging around,generally making life unpleasant for all & sundry.Here in Liverpool,Sydney,it has become a big problem making certain parts of Liverpool very unpleasant if you have to go there because you know its anything goe's,Bag snatching,assaults,even shooting up in full view.As far as I am concerned,they are the only one's who are lovi'n it. Church Boy

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Well if it comes down to human rights I dont want mine infringed by someone who is on a govenment sponsered drugs fest!! I do not want my taxes to pay for this so I might have to ask if by paying for something I am addimently against my rights are being ignored.

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Here comes the next crimewave if this dibarcle goes ahead.

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1164978493 I dont get it.. i know i am thick :confused:
anyway what happened to glue sniffing? its that still a problem?...

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All the glue sniffer's nostrils got stuck together and when they sneezed, blew their brains out.Church Boy

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Some drugs that people really need are not avaiable on the NHS on privately hence the husband is of to chib someone for the cash required for the next months supply of drugs. There has beem umpteen fights in the courts lately over the access of drugs that are proven to work especially breast cancer yet they are considered to expensive to be funded by the NHS hence you pay private for some.

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Missing part is ;

"I'm just popping out to rob a few people to pay for your Alzheimers drugs, dear."

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I Would say no to that money could be spent else were

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one word NO

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In any marketplace supply follows demand. Remove the demand and the market collapses. The last thirty years has proved that prohibition does not work. It is high time we had a radical re-think on the issue of recreational drug use, esecially since a large and increasing proportion of the population appear to be off their faces on something or other at any one time.

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Well they are talking about giving smokers free drugs to get them off cigaretts, so if that has the desired effect, we may be able to draw a conclusion from that. I know in past posts I have voiced my opinion in the negative, but nothing else seems to stop this sordid degrading trade, that drives perfectly normal honest people into crime and prostitution.

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The cigarette stall on Accy Market is always busy. Perhaps this idea could save our ailing market. A specialist market, unlike any other in the northwest.

Charlie stall, weed stall, E stall, and that New Age place could sell crystal meth.:D

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:D:D:D:D:D:D oh by the way ive just read there is no demand for Es any more its all cheap coke

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If they are to get treatment then perhaps we could set aside a few buildings where the people that smoke tobacco could gather and get their fix as well, we could call these special buildings pubs or clubs.
If the users of illegal drugs are to get a sympathetic ear and assistance then it is only fair that the users of legal drugs should also be catered for and not persecuted. :mad:

Re: Should a drug addict be given a regular fix by the NHS?
 

NO NO NO NO, they shouldnt, its self inflicted, no one made em take it!