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Nell 23-11-2006 10:33

BST or GMT Should the clocks go back?
 
I know they already have, but i think it is an out-dated stupid practice. The hour of daylight we get in the morning is not worth it. Its far more important to have light in the evenings, thats when children (and adults) are still out and about.
Apparently there are more accidents on the roads due to this. AND, it coincides with what Willow was saying in her thread about the mini bus (dont start!) My daughter has a paper-round, she wears an alarm with her and i meet her before it gets too dark. This is REALLY annoying, firstly because she doesn't give me any of her earnings :( AND i'd rather stay inside curled up on the settee in the warmth!

What do you think?

entwisi 23-11-2006 11:29

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I think we should stay at BST. IIRC it was brought in for teh farmers dduring the war, as you said, we need it at teatime not early morning

Ianto.W. 23-11-2006 12:08

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It has been tried before,'leaving it' it did not work in those days school children walked to and from school, farmers also suffered as most farm work is done AM, the road accident rate also increased. No leave don't try to mend something that works.

yerself 23-11-2006 12:10

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They should stay as they are now GMT.

Nell 23-11-2006 12:11

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Farmers can set their own work times cant they? I'd rather save a few lives. The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents estimates that there would be around 3000 fewer fatal accidents a year if we stuck with BST.

grannyclaret 23-11-2006 12:13

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I think its something to do with farmers," i dont know what", but i hate winter full stop, i would rather have light nights and mornings,,,so my vote is for british summer time,,, Roll on march when we go forward again,

Ianto.W. 23-11-2006 12:18

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Originally Posted by Nell (Post 339269)
Farmers can set their own work times cant they? I'd rather save a few lives. The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents estimates that there would be around 3000 fewer fatal accidents a year if we stuck with BST.

Farmers need early daylight as for estimating accidents think of a number and double it, they can not estimate only experiment, like I said earlier it's been tried and it didn't work.

Nell 23-11-2006 12:23

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When did they try it? I wouldn't want to take any risks about accidents. And anyway its horrible coming home in the dark :( Why cant farmers just work later if they need daylight?
And, when have they already tried it, and why didn't it work?

WillowTheWhisp 23-11-2006 12:24

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But why can't the farmers just adjust their working day rather than everybody else have to do it as well? What does it matter to a farmer if he is doing somethng at 8am or 9am? The name given to the hour doesn't actually affect him. He can still do it at that time whatever we call the hour. I hope that makes sense. I know what I mean but it's hard to explain in words.

grannyclaret 23-11-2006 12:29

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 339277)
But why can't the farmers just adjust their working day rather than everybody else have to do it as well? What does it matter to a farmer if he is doing somethng at 8am or 9am? The name given to the hour doesn't actually affect him. He can still do it at that time whatever we call the hour. I hope that makes sense. I know what I mean but it's hard to explain in words.

I know exacly what you mean ,and i agree,,,

Ianto.W. 23-11-2006 12:42

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I give up ask a farmer, yes it was tried many years ago no doubt someone will come up with the figures.

jambutty 23-11-2006 15:01

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Being retired I am not a slave to the clock any more, so messing around with the clocks twice a year is nothing more than a bind.

However when I was working for a living I was of the opinion that GMT the year round was best especially for those tens of thousands of workers who work the night shift.

So leave the clocks alone and adapt to the world and don’t try to adapt the world to your needs.

chav1 23-11-2006 15:13

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scrap it theres no need for it any more the country no longer has set work times and people finish shifts at all hours of the day

farmers ? - do they actualy work anymore ime under teh impression they get piad NOT to farm their land

kids coming home from school - hardly any kids these days bother to look while they cross teh road during light hours so re introducing the green cross code in scools or he tufty club woukld be more appropiate

WillowTheWhisp 23-11-2006 15:16

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It's not as if we get more actual hours of daylight whatever we do with the clocks is it?

chav1 23-11-2006 15:23

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 339343)
It's not as if we get more actual hours of daylight whatever we do with the clocks is it?

nope we dont

Sparkologist 23-11-2006 16:28

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Originally Posted by Nell (Post 339228)
This is REALLY annoying, firstly because she doesn't give me any of her earnings :(

I think you've got a nerve expecting your daughter to divvy up her hard earned pittance from her paper round. :rolleyes:

In answer to your real question, stick with British Summer Time. Why should a few farmers hold sway over the rest of us.
Give me those lazy summer evenings relaxing in a beer garden. :D

Nell 23-11-2006 17:01

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I hope you understand sarcasm Sparky !

Sparkologist 23-11-2006 17:32

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Oh yes. I understand it. I also dish it out, in spades! :D

Nell 23-11-2006 18:50

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Are you being sarcastic? I think your so intelligent and funny, ahhh! hehehehe

jaytee 23-11-2006 19:31

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I understood that it was for Scotish farmers who then don't have to milk twice in the dark. And if I was a Labour Government, I wouldn't want to annoy them. BUT they have their own Parliament now, let them set their own times.

Margaret Pilkington 23-11-2006 19:43

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I just wish they would leave it at one thing......and I don't really care if it is BST or GMT.......it takes my body clock anywhere between 3 and 6 weeks to adjust. I get really tired and my digestive system gets really stubborn...all for a blooming hours daylight!

SPUGGIE J 23-11-2006 20:05

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Originally Posted by jaytee (Post 339485)
I understood that it was for Scotish farmers who then don't have to milk twice in the dark. And if I was a Labour Government, I wouldn't want to annoy them. BUT they have their own Parliament now, let them set their own times.

They would but the amount of trouble it would cause would not be worth it. If you lived in Dumfries and Worked in Carlise you would be changing your watch everyday. I dont think the farmers are going to be really bothered with all the technology there is and besides if the cattle are indoors then there is lighting so they cant argue that they are in the fields.

ANNE 23-11-2006 20:35

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Leave the clock's alone. There is no need for it. We need the extra light in the evenings.
There is nothing more disheartening than when your working the night shift and you have to work that extra hour.

buttonsmum 23-11-2006 21:55

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I hate the dark nights

cashman 23-11-2006 22:55

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think the practice is well outdated as jambutty says its a bind and i know many who when working forgot to alter the damn clocks,and some who were sent home from work for arriving late, so sod the farmers, when did they ever bother about any ****** else?;)


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