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WillowTheWhisp 28-11-2006 13:46
Isn't it really frustrating when.........
 
........you've been given a date for admission to hospital, got your bag packed all ready and you're just about to leave when they ring up and say "Oh don't come in today. We don't want you until tomorrow."

I wouldn't mind but at the pre-op last Friday I'd actually said I couldn't understand why they wanted me at 2pm today when my op isn't scheduled until 3pm tomorrow but the doc had insisted that I MUST be there 24 hours in advance! Now they say they don't want me until noon tomorrow!

Now I'll have to unpack my toothbrush again. :rolleyes:

flashy 28-11-2006 13:52
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they usually do that when there is an emergency thats just come in, unfortunately the cannot predict emergencies, better for them to ring you than having you waiting about on the ward for a bed when there isnt one :)

Tealeaf 28-11-2006 13:55
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Instead of complaining, when don't you just go private and thus remove yourself from the NHS waiting list? Then the rest of us who are on the waiting list and are prepared to put up with the occaisional inconveniance might not have so long to wait.

WillowTheWhisp 28-11-2006 14:14
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There is no emergency. If there had been an emergency I would have fully understood that but this is just the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.

When I went for the pre op last Friday I queried the fact of having to go in more than 24 hours before the op was due and was told I had to, then today just as I was about to go I was told I didn't have to be there today and to stay at home. Go in at noon tomorrow they said.

I've just had a phone call after posting this thread to say that now they want me in at 9am tomorrow.

Pardon me Tealeaf for not being able to afford to go private. I do apologise

Hey with a bit of luck I might turn out to have an inoperable cancer and I'll pop my clogs and then you won't have to worry about me clogging up the NHS waiting list and being an inconvenience to you. I'm sure you'll be glad to see the back of me.

garinda 28-11-2006 14:22
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Teabag's probably just a bit grouchy, as he waits for his funny bone replacement operation.;)

chav1 28-11-2006 14:24
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 342156)
Teabag's probably just a bit grouchy, as he waits for his funny bone replacement operation.;)

hope his operation goes better than what yours did :D

garinda 28-11-2006 14:36
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hope his operation goes better than what yours did :D
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Tealeaf 28-11-2006 14:38
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 342155)
Pardon me Tealeaf for not being able to afford to go private. I do apologise

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Good. You're getting this treatment for nowt. As the old saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.

chav1 28-11-2006 14:42
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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1164740918

carefull mate you cant say c*** in anything goes so i doubt you can put that in gen discusion ;)

whats wrong with carp i dont know :confused:

jambutty 28-11-2006 15:07
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342161)
Good. You're getting this treatment for nowt. As the old saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.
Really Tealeaf? How do you figure that?

What do you think the National Insurance contributions were for?

chav1 28-11-2006 15:12
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 342169)
Really Tealeaf? How do you figure that?

What do you think the National Insurance contributions were for?
to pay for imigrants healthcare who have never paid a penny into the nhs or tax system :D

also to pay high wages to pen pushers

if every penny of NI went where it should we wouldnt have half the trouble we have now with the nhs

anyway differnt topic so best leave that one alone lol

Tealeaf 28-11-2006 15:14
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 342169)
Really Tealeaf? How do you figure that?

What do you think the National Insurance contributions were for?
Well, if you care to read your history books you will see that Lloyd George and Churchill introduced National Insurance contributions to fund the state retirement pension and unemployment benefit some forty years before the advent of the NHS, so they weren't for that.

Whats your next question?

chav1 28-11-2006 15:17
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342172)
Well, if you care to read your history books you will see that Lloyd George and Churchill introduced National Insurance to fund the state retirement pension and unemployment benefit some forty years before the advent of the NHS, so they weren't for that.

Whats your next question?
i dont think there will be one he may be busy drinking that nice warm cup of STFU you just served him lol

jambutty 28-11-2006 15:23
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342172)
Well, if you care to read your history books you will see that Lloyd George and Churchill introduced National Insurance contributions to fund the state retirement pension and unemployment benefit some forty years before the advent of the NHS, so they weren't for that.

Whats your next question?
That may well have been the case in years gone by but since the NHS came on stream NI contributions also funded the NHS.

Tealeaf 28-11-2006 15:36
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 342175)
That may well have been the case in years gone by but since the NHS came on stream NI contributions also funded the NHS.
NI contributions went the same as Income Tax, Death duties, VAT, Exise, betting tax, stamp duty....all into the same government pot. No UK government has ever practised hypothesization, so your NI funded lots of things from teachers to trident missiles, just as booze and fag tax went towards the NHS. No government has committed a set proportion of NI to funding the NHS.

I'll let you have another go.

lettie 28-11-2006 15:52
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The whole point of pre-op clinics is to prepare you for your operation before you come to hospital. Therefore all of the blood tests, baseline observations and information giving should be done in this clinic. This means that you can come on the day of your op and not have to have anything done except getting into a theatre gown. Pre-op clinics negate the need to come into hospital the day before, which was always the case in the past.

It may be that the member of staff who dealt with you was new to that particular department (happens quite a bit). Or maybe it was a doctor who told you to come in the day before (they're good, but have no idea of the day to day running of the wards).

WillowTheWhisp 28-11-2006 16:14
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Lettie, I did query with the doctor at the pre-op the fact that I was being asked to go in the day before. My reason for querying was that I'm aware of a shortage of hospital beds as that is always in the news and also have experience of family members having ops and going in on the actual day.

She insisted that it was because my case isn't simply straightforward 'pop your gown on and off down to theatre' and that I needed to be in there the day before for them to discuss my case with the anaesthetist and to deal with anything else which might need to be done or any possible alternatives procedures as a consequence on the day prior to the op.

Then today someone rang me and said forget all that, I don't need to be there until noon tomorrow. Then yet another person phoned to say I do need to be there as they spoke to the anaesthetist today (despite the person earlier saying that he wouldn't be around today) and that he had wanted to discuss options with me but as I wasn't there (because I'd been told not to go in today after all) I now need to be there first thing tomorrow morning.

This is for a biopsy following one which I had a couple of weeks ago from which they couldn't get enough tissue by the method they used then - I've had to wait longer than normal between the two already because they couldn't do the general anaesthetic for tomorrows op until after I'd had the angiogram last week to prove my heart would be up to it. I can't do the normal stress test due to asthma.

If that angiogram had come back with problems I'm not sure what they would have done, but ordinarily if there hadn't been the angiogram hold-up the specialist who saw me last time said they are under obligation to do this biopsy asap as speed is of the essence.

But as I said in response to Tealeaf's earlier post, with a bit of luck I will have cancer and they won't have been able to catch it early enough so I'll be off the NHS waiting list and you can all move up a notch. Not that Tealeaf himself is likely to need to see the same specialist as me in this particular case.

lettie 28-11-2006 16:30
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Aaaah.... It is now a little clearer. If you have medical problems such as Asthma or Cardiac problems, you need to be assessed by an anaesthetist prior to anaesthetic. This used to routinely occur the night before an op but depending on the schedule of the anaesthetist, may have been the same morning. We found that if we brought patients in the night before, they were less likely to get missed. Anaesthetists can be called away for emergency operations etc, so aren't always available the night before. Sometimes they do their assessments first thing in the morning before the theatre list starts. This makes more sense as there are more of them about during the day (there is usually only one on call in the evening and at night for general surgery, one for ICU and one for gynae/maternity). There are loads during the day due to scheduled operations, so it is easier for them to do their assessments in the morning.

It may be that the staff were unclear about when your anaesthetist would be available. It is difficult to bleep and ask them as they cannot leave an anaesthetised patient to answer the phone. During the day, some anaesthetists are scheduled to do the planned operations and some are on call for emergencies, so, although they help at the planned ops, they keep themselves relatively free to answer their emergency calls. If your anaesthetist was scheduled to be with planned ops, the clinic staff wouldn't have been able to contact him/her. It's no good contacting the emergency person with a query, each anaesthetist works differently so the emergency person may not have been able to answer the question.
the clinic staff were probably thinking that they'd be on the safe side and bring you in the night before.

garinda 28-11-2006 16:34
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342161)
Good. You're getting this treatment for nowt. As the old saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.

What a nasty little comment.:mad:

Does the same go for education?:confused:

WillowTheWhisp 28-11-2006 16:37
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The irony is that he would have been there this afternoon to see me if I'd been there as I was originally told to be.

I still maintain that it's frustrating not to know whether you're coming or going, especially at a worrying time. It seems that some people get sympathy for things like this and some people just get slagged off.

Perhaps I'd be best just keeping to the "Anything Goes" threads and not having any personal opinions on anything in future. It seems that all I ever do is cause trouble these days.

garinda 28-11-2006 17:01
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I'd logged off to make my supper but had to come back because I still have steam coming out of my ears, rather than off my pans.

I above all people here use humour which sometimes can go too far, in some people's eyes. However what Tealeaf said to Willow is down right callous.

I don't know exactly what Willow is having done tomorrow (hopefully), but because cancer was mentioned ,I presume it's not an ingrowing toenail. As a member we know you to be a wife and mother, and can only try to understand how frightened they all must be for you, as well the apprehension you must have yourself.

Perhaps the difference is Tealeaf has never really loved anyone, and by that same token ever been loved himself. I hope he never has to go to the funeral of someone he loved, as I have, when my Dad died aged fifty one of cancer.

Rant over.

Take no notice Willow, it is an interesting topic for a thread.

I'm sure all your friends at Accy Web send you love and best wishes for tomorrow, and that you make a speedy and full recovery.

G x

jambutty 28-11-2006 17:02
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342179)
NI contributions went the same as Income Tax, Death duties, VAT, Exise, betting tax, stamp duty....all into the same government pot. No UK government has ever practised hypothesization, so your NI funded lots of things from teachers to trident missiles, just as booze and fag tax went towards the NHS. No government has committed a set proportion of NI to funding the NHS.

I'll let you have another go.
Much obliged for allowing me to have another go your dorkship. Try to imagine that you are a French person and I am offering you a gesture.

So are you now going to admit that you were wrong to state that WillowTheWhisp was getting treatment from the NHS for nowt?

Less 28-11-2006 17:02
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 342199)
The irony is that he would have been there this afternoon to see me if I'd been there as I was originally told to be.

I still maintain that it's frustrating not to know whether you're coming or going, especially at a worrying time. It seems that some people get sympathy for things like this and some people just get slagged off.

Perhaps I'd be best just keeping to the "Anything Goes" threads and not having any personal opinions on anything in future. It seems that all I ever do is cause trouble these days.
Oiy, since when would anything T' said get you down? You should know what he's like by now, plus, when have you ever needed sympathy? You are just suffering a little from the old butterflys, otherwise you wouldn't fuss so.
Of course it's frustrating, but thats probably because you want everything to be over and then you can get on with being confusing as normal.

Not to worry though as soon as you get out I and many others will be waiting here to get your version of what went on, then we'll wait for busman to come on and translate it for us.:D

I hope all goes well and the whole thing isn't too uncomfortable, now stop fussing and go pack your sponge bag again, I bet you forgot to put your toothpaste in!;)

garinda 28-11-2006 17:08
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 342212)
Oiy, since when would anything T' said get you down? You should know what he's like by now, plus, when have you ever needed sympathy? You are just suffering a little from the old butterflys, otherwise you wouldn't fuss so.
Of course it's frustrating, but thats probably because you want everything to be over and then you can get on with being confusing as normal.

Not to worry though as soon as you get out I and many others will be waiting here to get your version of what went on, then we'll wait for busman to come on and translate it for us.:D

I hope all goes well and the whole thing isn't too uncomfortable, now stop fussing and go pack your sponge bag again, I bet you forgot to put your toothpaste in!;)

Humour, so called, is fine Less. Funny how he seems to direct it at people who are feeling a bit vunerable or weak

He hasn't had a go at me for ages, and I'm big, bad, ugily and wittly cruel enough to give him back what he's proffered ten fold.:D

Come on you balding windbag, bring it on.:D

Or perhaps is he still earning his thirty pieces of silver supplying equipment to the NHS, and has gone off to do a bit of pen-pushing?

Less 28-11-2006 17:15
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Oiy, since when would anything T' said get you down? You should know what he's like by now, plus, when have you ever needed sympathy? You are just suffering a little from the old butterflys, otherwise you wouldn't fuss so.
Of course it's frustrating, but thats probably because you want everything to be over and then you can get on with being confusing as normal.

Not to worry though as soon as you get out I and many others will be waiting here to get your version of what went on, then we'll wait for busman to come on and translate it for us.

I hope all goes well and the whole thing isn't too uncomfortable, now stop fussing and go pack your sponge bag again, I bet you forgot to put your toothpaste in!

Humour, so called, is fine Less. Funny how he seems to direct it at people who are feeling a bit vunerable or weak
If you want to argue with T' that is fine, I was trying to be comforting to Willow, so please don't include me in your rant, thank you!

jambutty 28-11-2006 17:15
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Good luck WillowTheWhisp.

I hope that everything goes well for you and you come back revitalised and ready to take on the world.

garinda 28-11-2006 17:18
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I'm most terriblely sorry Less if you felt I included you, or any other appologists for bad taste, in my rant.:D

katex 28-11-2006 17:29
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 342193)
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But as I said in response to Tealeaf's earlier post, with a bit of luck I will have cancer and they won't have been able to catch it early enough so I'll be off the NHS waiting list and you can all move up a notch. [/COLOR]
Pleease don't say that Willow. too upsetting to think about .. you'll be fine I hope .. best of luck, will think about you tomorrow xxx

Hey, Garinda now's yer chance to get in some extra posts to catch up with her . :D

garinda 28-11-2006 17:32
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 342239)
Hey, Garinda now's yer chance to get in some extra posts to catch up with her . :D
No, I wouldn't take advantage.:eek:

I'll wait until she goes off to Carnforth next summer to their caravan, and hope she still hasn't got internet access up there.;):D

MUMMIBOO 28-11-2006 21:15
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Hiya Willow I wish you and your family all the best at this time, I dont know why you need a hospital visit but its never a pleasant time (i get the hebbie jebbies just visiting lol) but i know how my dad felt as you do when this happened to him (on more than one occasion!) but it cant be helped and what is done is done and it will all be over soon enough.

Take care Willow, thinking of you. x

chav1 28-11-2006 22:01
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 342218)

I'm big, bad, ugily and wittly
3 i can agree with but the wit thing i can only agree %50


as in halfwit :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Busman747 28-11-2006 22:20
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Thank you all for your help and support regarding Willows op (With the exception of tealeaf who is acting more obnoxious than ever!) You are right Garinda, you don't stand a chance of catching up on posts until the summer:p .............and as for you Less, for a tough cookie, you gotta marshmallow heart (or was that "brain"?;) )

God help you all if Willow is instructed not to move around for a few days, she will be on the accyweb 18 hours a day!!:eek:

Ianto.W. 28-11-2006 22:26
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tealeaf, no UK government has ever practised hypothesization,
Ok tealeaf, speaking 'hypothetically' if a patient is terminally ill, should they be denied the few comforts that pain killing drugs or just a good old shoulder to cry on, in the name of finance? answers please, there but for the grace of god go you!, ones tax bill etc become meaningless, in the struggle to survive.

harwood red 28-11-2006 22:29
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All the best willow xx :)

LancYorkYankee 29-11-2006 02:14
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Aye Willow I pray all goes well/went well. :)

Keep Strong and Keep Smiling oh yeah, and Keep on Posting!:D

Brian

Mancie 29-11-2006 02:50
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Any operation done by the NHS or paid for in the "private sector" is a worry.. hope you recover as quick as possible from your op..yourself and busman can take heart in knowing that you are well supported here!

WillowTheWhisp 29-11-2006 06:42
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Thanks to all of you who posted your good wishes.

Less I appreciate your sense of humour which is on a similar level to mine. The toothpaste had to come out of my bag last night :p but I've put it back in again today because I don't know if I'm going to need it or not now. I've got my little list of everything I'm supposed to take but if I'm going to be in and out on the same day now I'm sure some of it will be superfluous.

I said "frustrating" in the thread title because frustrating is all it is. Not "infuriating" not "appalling" not "disgusting" - just frustrating - the sort of frustrating when you've waited in all day for a gas man to come but he never turns up.

Thank you Gary for your understanding that I am apprehensive anyway and not exactly looking forward to today. I do want it to be all over and done with but unfortunately this may just be the start.

I normally wouldn't give two hoots about anythng anyone says on a message board because most of the time it's just words on a computer screen and you don't know the people behind them. In some cases they could be totally fictitious characters living in someone else's imagination, (I've known that happen more than once but that's another story.) but AccyWebbers are mostly more than that because a lot of us know each other in person or have at least met and socialised.

If someone I didn't know from a bump on a log had said the things Tealeaf said I would have just dismissed him as an ignorant oaf and taken no notice of it but I actually sat here in tears yesterday, probably because I'd already been worried and not keen on going in anyway and then getting different sorts of conflicting info from the hospital from diifferent people didn't do much for my confidence. Yesterday I was upset by what he'd said which wasn't humourous like Less or even wittily sarcastic. It was downright nasty. And to think I'd actually worried about him when the London bombings took place. Perhaps I should complain about people who can afford to go private who don't do so and clog up the waiting lists for the rest of us who have to rely on the NHS.

My friend Diane died whilst she was on an NHS waiting list for her op. Well it made the statistics look better when they could cross her off the list didn't it? One less to deal with.

Mummiboo, I remember only too well when your Dad kept having his whole op deferred never mind the admission date and time mucked about with. That must have been worrying. I don't think "frustrating" would have covered the apprehensive build up to going in for an op being followed by an anti climax of getting the phone call to say "don't come today". I was on holiday when he had the stent thing done and I got Busman to phone me up to tell me how it had gone and was gobsmacked at how soon he was able to come home. (Your Dad I mean, not Busman)

I appreciate your prayers LYY and everyone else's good wishes. To the decent people here - Thank You.

jimmi5bellies 29-11-2006 07:37
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They did this with me, told me i had to be in 24 hours before the op and then rang me 10 minutes before i left and told me to be there for 8am.
Got there at 8am and was taken to theatre straight from the tv room.:mad:

Tealeaf 29-11-2006 10:31
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 342211)
So are you now going to admit that you were wrong to state that WillowTheWhisp was getting treatment from the NHS for nowt?
The guiding principle of the NHS, as laid down by Bevan in 1948, and still held by both the Labour & Conservative party, is that treatment is free at the point of delivery. In other words, treatment for nowt.

Next?

garinda 29-11-2006 11:20
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342660)
The guiding principle of the NHS, as laid down by Bevan in 1948, and still held by both the Labour & Conservative party, is that treatment is free at the point of delivery. In other words, treatment for nowt.

Next?
Answer the question.

Does your 'owt for nowt' remark also apply to education?

accymel 29-11-2006 11:36
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Hope willow is ok & not suffering any further delays as i found this morning [i was right tinks hehehehehe] Well Patient services did contact me as promised 1st thing this morning but when it came to sorting out the appointment for Royal blackburn - well their bt systems went down presumably in the technical pc/net department, so still waiting to hear from them as to when its been sorted out [hope they haven't forgot:(]

Ah well such is life:D things on hold & cancelled while i wait lol

cashman 29-11-2006 12:05
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hope all goes well willow, best wishes, a bit late i know,but thats me.;)

mez 29-11-2006 13:29
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good luck & best wishes willow .......god bless x x x x

Tealeaf 29-11-2006 13:40
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 342218)
He hasn't had a go at me for ages, and I'm big, bad, ugily and wittly cruel enough to give him back what he's proffered ten fold.:D
You are flattering yourself again, Garinda.

garinda 29-11-2006 14:22
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342698)
You are flattering yourself again, Garinda.
Weak.

Come on, not like you to be stuck for an answer.

If your 'owt for nowt' comment re: the NHS, does it also apply to the education system?

Tealeaf 29-11-2006 14:58
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[quote=garinda;342701If your 'owt for nowt' comment re: the NHS, does it also apply to the education system?[/quote]

Could you please translate this into understandable English.

accymel 29-11-2006 15:09
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Originally Posted by accymel (Post 342674)
Hope willow is ok & not suffering any further delays as i found this morning [i was right tinks hehehehehe] Well Patient services did contact me as promised 1st thing this morning but when it came to sorting out the appointment for Royal blackburn - well their bt systems went down presumably in the technical pc/net department, so still waiting to hear from them as to when its been sorted out [hope they haven't forgot:(]

Ah well such is life:D things on hold & cancelled while i wait lol
well least i dont have to have a go at the NHS for a change my gripe is with Bt seemingly the technical difficulties are still apparent :( so anyone ringing nhs patient services/referals its a long wait:(

Looks like i cancelled my day for nowt again:(

Margaret Pilkington 29-11-2006 15:50
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Hope all goes well for you Willow...thinking about you and sending you good wishes.

garinda 29-11-2006 16:05
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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 342722)
Could you please translate this into understandable English.
You commented to Willow that, and I quote 'You're getting this treatment for nowt. As the old saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.'

You also say, 'Instead of complaining, when don't you just go private and thus remove yourself from the NHS waiting list? Then the rest of us who are on the waiting list and are prepared to put up with the occaisional inconveniance might not have so long to wait.'

I simply asked if you would apply this same rationale to the education systen as you do to the NHS.

I do hope you can manage to understand the question this time, it isn't rocket science.

garinda 29-11-2006 16:07
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Although I don't pray, my thoughts have been with you and your family today Willow, and I hope all has gone well.

LancYorkYankee 29-11-2006 16:41
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Was gonna P.M. this but thought all would like to know: Busman, how are you holding up? It's as hard if not harder on the spouse when the other is suffering eh?

Brian

Sara 29-11-2006 21:03
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Hope you've had your op by now Willow, and that all has gone well. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Take Care

Busman747 29-11-2006 21:05
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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee (Post 342745)
Was gonna P.M. this but thought all would like to know: Busman, how are you holding up? It's as hard if not harder on the spouse when the other is suffering eh?

Brian
Thank you Brian for your thoughts, I am elated to tell you all that Willow was let out tonight but is feeling rather groggy at the mo.

They have had a deep grovel inside and it looks all good news regarding what may have been a life-threatening disease. The doctors now put it down to a mysterious inflammation of her womanly bits which are showing signs of retreat:D (The inflammation, not her womanly bits:p )

I doubt it will be long before she finds her way back to her PC seat, probably as soon as I turn my back:rolleyes:

Lolly 29-11-2006 21:05
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I hope all is going well with Willow. My thoughts are with you and your family. Take care. xxxx

On the other note, yes treatment is free at the point of delivery, meaning when the treatment is delivered to you you do not have to pay any money there and then, but you do have to pay in other ways ie NI contributions. I agree that is not why it was set up because when NI contributions came in, in 1918 the NHS didn't exist, but when it was introduced the government had to decide where to take the money from, and NI was the obvious choice.

jimmi5bellies 29-11-2006 21:49
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Thinking about you willow. Pity i didnt know which ward you are in, im at the xray dept tomorrow having more xrays done on my neck, back and heart. I would have come to visit you.

cashman 30-11-2006 00:05
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hope the recovery goes well, and your soon back to normal.

WillowTheWhisp 30-11-2006 14:45
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Thank you to all who sent their good wishes.

This has been a bit of a scary time. It hasn't helped with being given different advice opinions and information too, some of which contradicted each other.

It's something dating back 12 years when I had a growth removed but not having recurred after so long really was a mystery but it had to be looked into. It could have been something lurking undetected which had decided to spring back into action.

I'm not one of those who like "bothering" the docs just about twinges and bits of things and even when I started bleeding I was more hoping it would just go away on its own rather than have to do something but my GP wanted to refer me due to the previous problems.

Unfortunately they couldn't get enough tissue from a biopsy but the camera investgation at that time showed inflamation and an unnatural thickening of tissue - this meant they needed to do an op under general anaesthetic to get a proper look at what was going on, but with having asthma I couldn't get far enough on the treadmill test without gettng out of breath so had to wait for an angiogram and reports from the cardiology department to say I was fit for the op.

So last week I had the angiogram and that verified that I do indeed have a heart, and last Friday I went for the pre-op which should have been an hour to an hour and a half but they all went for their dinner and I waited an extra hour before the last person spoke to me for about 5 mins and then sent me home. Busman had been waiting in the car park in his dinner break but had to go back to work and leave me there so I made my own way home. Good job I had some money with me and hadn't taken the hour and a half too seriously as it was closer to 2 and half hours in the end.

So I finally went in at 9am yesterday as instructed and answered yet more sets of the same questions - name, address, age, date of birth, next of kin, height, weight, GP - any allergies etc etc. All already down in my notes numerous times but I don't think anybody reads them. Maybe they don't have time. I had to tell them several times why I'd had the angiogram and even what the wound and bruising on my wrist were all about.

The anaesthetist came to see me and said I should not have been phoned the previous morning and been told not to come in until yesterday! Apparently I was down on the list as first to go down to theatre. Good thing I had personally chosen not to eat since the previous evening as I was supposed to fast from 7am if I'd been last on the list like the person on the phone told me I was.

He then added to my confusion by saying that due to my asthma they did not want to do a general anaesthetic but a spinal instead. He said it was in my notes that in 1990 when I'd had a laperoscopy there had been difficulties coming round from the anaesthetic. That was back in 1990 but I hadn't even been diagnosed with asthma by then! I had no inhalers. In 1991 when my first daughter was born they'd tried to give me an epidural but found it impossible to get the needle between my vertibrae. In the end they'd had to give up but it left my back bleeding so badly that I stuck to my nightgown. I ponted that out to him and said I didn't relish the prospect of going through something like that again. I also pointed out that I'd had 2 operations since 1990 both under general anaesthetic. However, he insisted that with my asthma the spinal was the best option, and left me feeling very apprehensive of the coming ordeal which worried me more than the op itself.

A couple of hours later he came back to tell me that a senior anaesthetist had said that a spinal wasn't apprpropriate for my op as it would leave my legs wobbly for a good 12 hours afterwards and they would prefer me to be able to move about to prevent DVT so I would be having a general anaesthetic as originally planned for and of course that was why I'd had to wait until after the angiogram to ensure my heart was OK for the general. In other words all the worry about a spinal need never have been brought up because they'd already decided I needed a general which was why I'd had to have the angiogram first.

By the time the surgeon came to ak me if I had any questions I had no confidence at all in believing that any answer I received would be valid for longer than five minutes. There had been so much contradictory information already that all I wanted by then was for them to get on with doing whatever they wanted to do and get me back home as soon as possible.

There was one nurse on the ward who was very kind and caring and I have nothing but praise for her but I do think that there is so much contradictory nformation going backwards and forwards that a lot of the time the people involved don't know if they are coming or gong and the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Perhpas if they didn't hve so many nurmerous copies of the same collection of information then it would be possible to find the really relevant things in there.

Anyway once I'd got the thing stuck in the back of my hand I don't remember anything else until coming round and being told that all the inflamed tissue which had perviosly been seen by camera was no longer there and may well have been why they couldn't get much of a sample for the biopsy. It had probably all come away then and in the subsequent bleeding. They still don't know the cause of it but unless something else occurs then that's the end of it for now. So by 7pm when I could toddle around the bed to the seat they decided I could come home.

I do appreciate all the prayers from friends and the blessing I got at church on Sunday and the Bishop fasting on my behalf this week and my name being on two temple prayer rolls not to mention all the good wishes form the kinder more caring AccyWebbers. Gosh what a lot of fuss for little old me.

garinda 30-11-2006 17:28
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Blimey, back with a vengance.:eek:

One of the longest posts ever.:D

Glad things went to plan, and you are feeling A1 soon. x:)

Margaret Pilkington 30-11-2006 18:56
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Glad to hear that despite it all, you have made a good recovery. Hope you are back to good health soon Willow. (I'm also wondering if I was involved in your care back in 1990......I was in the thick of it then)


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