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Stanaccy 10-12-2006 20:06

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 349287)
Is that Tony Benn as in Hilary Benn's dad, or did you actually mean Tony's son Hilary Benn? Hilary Benn is the favourite for the deputies job and I will be voting for Tony's son for the reasons quoted Stan.


Tony as in Anthony Wedgewood, not another sycophantic Blairite. (OK I know he's knocking on but no-one has been as honest and remained stuck to their principals as he did.)

steeljack 10-12-2006 20:37

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
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Originally Posted by Stanaccy (Post 349966)
Tony as in Anthony Wedgewood, not another sycophantic Blairite. (OK I know he's knocking on but no-one has been as honest and remained stuck to their principals as he did.)

I guess you mean ....the Westminster educated Sir Anthony Wedgewood-Benn, who was elevated to the House of Lords as the 2nd Viscount Stansgate, who later became Anthony Wedgewood-Benn who later became Anthony Benn then later became just plain old Tony Benn .
a real genuine example of the proletariat

as for his son , remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree

SPUGGIE J 10-12-2006 21:35

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
Its the right of the party members to choose a party leader. So in my book just handing to a baton to someone else is a bit wierd.

g jones 11-12-2006 22:42

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 350005)
Its the right of the party members to choose a party leader. So in my book just handing to a baton to someone else is a bit wierd.

The Labour Party is a coalition between workers represented in afflilated unions, and party members. The leadership contest is divided into 3 votes. 33% The unions, 33% party members and 33% MP's. Most (all??) unions are going 1 member 1 vote this time.

I think apples don't fall far from the tree, and this will see Benn easily win the union vote, comfortably win the party vote and as a result MPs will back a popular winner.

I think like his dad he will be a breath of fresh air.

cashman 11-12-2006 23:02

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 350522)
The Labour Party is a coalition between workers represented in afflilated unions, and party members. The leadership contest is divided into 3 votes. 33% The unions, 33% party members and 33% MP's. Most (all??) unions are going 1 member 1 vote this time.

I think apples don't fall far from the tree, and this will see Benn easily win the union vote, comfortably win the party vote and as a result MPs will back a popular winner.

I think like his dad he will be a breath of fresh air.

would hope so then maybe,just maybe a little bit of socialism might just return to the labour party.

steeljack 11-12-2006 23:02

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
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Originally Posted by g jones (Post 350522)
The Labour Party is a coalition between workers represented in afflilated unions, and party members. The leadership contest is divided into 3 votes. 33% The unions, 33% party members and 33% MP's. Most (all??) unions are going 1 member 1 vote this time.

I think apples don't fall far from the tree, and this will see Benn easily win the union vote, comfortably win the party vote and as a result MPs will back a popular winner.

I think like his dad he will be a breath of fresh air.

Does that mean that someone like John Prescott gets 3 votes ? , seamans union member, Labour party member, sitting MP.
hardly seems democratic, but what does under Labour these days

g jones 12-12-2006 22:28

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It's an 'electoral college system'. Each college is independent of the others, so yes John Prescott get's 3 votes, one in each 'college'. Seems strange but each college has it's own way and its own membership to decide it's third.

g jones 12-12-2006 22:57

Re: If not Brown, then who?
 
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 350546)
Does that mean that someone like John Prescott gets 3 votes ? , seamans union member, Labour party member, sitting MP.
hardly seems democratic, but what does under Labour these days

It's an 'electoral college system'. Each college is independent of the others, so yes John Prescott get's 3 votes, one in each 'college'. Seems strange but each college has it's own way and its own membership to decide it's third.


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