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Ok so i'm talkin about the killings of the 5 women in ipswich. I know there's other threads so i'm going to talk about something else.

the blatant reasons police are giving out as to why they're naked and in a river - so that forensic evidence would be hard to come by.

i mean come on with stuff like this out and other documentaries that show how police solve crimes surely a would-be killer only betters his chances with gettin away with such

i was watchin a docu on the chohan killings in london and they were sayin how police tracked them via the mobile signals and whereas most of it was all circumstantial evidence aside from the mobile signals and the fact the father had managed to hide a bank letter of his killer in his sock.


what do u folks think? or will there always be one more thing that the cops dont tell us about?

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watched it myself, it says a lot for the building up of evidence to snare these evil scumbags mani, and no they never release all they know. the thing that troubles me though is the serial killer in the u.k. is usually caught by something entirely differant. theres been a good few examples.unfortunatly.

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on that subject

anyone with legitimate sat nav like tom tom has to activate their product,its a pretty safe assumtion that every journey you make is recorded because your device if switched on comunicates with teh satelite

so if your planing of doing somone in lend your tomtom to your mate and get him to drive miles away from where you are going to actualy be ;)

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Satnav is a bit like your love making Chav, its a one way thing (so I have been told ;)). The Satellite does all the giving and your TomTom does all the taking with nothing in return.

There is no transmission from Satnav to satellite so you can't be tracked by them.

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Correct, GPS satellites are broadcast only. The only way TomTom would know where you are is if you chose to use their traffic notifications system and TBH there would be that much data to store it would cost them an absolute fortune

Now mobile phones, thats different as the networks know exactly what cell you are connected to and also your phone is constantly searching for new ones that have better strength than the current one so they can triangulate your position if necessary

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If they could Use Tom Toms like that im sure it would be put to the best of uses and send us all nice fines for going 34mph.

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Just on a slightly different note, there was an article on a tech website I watch. It was about Americas spyplanes and how they spent an absolute fortune on making them radar proof only to find out that as they travelled they caused interference in the mobile phone signals and could be accurately tracked by pretty much anyone.

Rather like the urban myth of them spending millions on making a biro that worked in zero gravity, the russians just took a pencil :D

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what about tracking the radio signals i recieve through my fillings ?

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I didn't think falsies had fillings in them :D

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He must have bought cheap repaired second hand false teeth

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i guess so but i'm sure this is just makin things even more difficult

the yorkshire ripper wouldnt have been caught if it wasnt for some luck and yeah fair enough to say they did get some bad luck wiht the fake recordings wearside jack i think they called him

in most of these cases its like a lucky break or a chance meeting that seems to catch the criminals

if the chohan guy never mentioned it to the woman about diggin up her field etc they never wud've guessed it

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I actually agree with you mani!!

This had crossed my mind yesterday when they kept repeating that it is hard to get DNA testing off a body that has been in water.

The other thing that kept me thinking was! they kept saying on the news that the person must know the area because of the secluded areas he/she they were dumping the bodies. But with things like sat nav's available now you really don't have to know the areas do you.....:confused:

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:rofl38: pmsfl thats one way to describe the workings of satnav pmsl!!!:Banane37: :D

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no not at all

i'm a pretty good map reader both street adn the ordance survey maps

just get one of soem county i'm not aware of and have a good look.

but i do think certain knowledge of the area is req as to dumpin bodies etc cuz u gotta make sure its discreet and quiet

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Yes he was named wearside jack, Mani. The thing is like the cops said this depraved killer has the need to gratify his sicko desires which could be the reason he has got a but sloppy with the body positioning or simply dont care to test the cops out & the more glory press, or he wants to be caught but not too quickly who knows, but if he is getting sloppy then tying the forensic evidence will be easier - even as far as the car he is driving, the last 2 didnt die at the scene, so its been reported so far.

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Suppose so but, surely if you was contemplating MASS murder on this scale you are gonna plan it out to the very last T.

So just pop it in your sat nav pay a few visits to that area to seek out if it is quiet enough....kill them.....dump the bodies then make your way home 100,s of miles away. That way the police think you are local because you have knowledge of the area :confused: There are things that need to be looked into, No doubt they are doing a fantastic job.....and they WILL catch the killer/killers because technology is FAR better than the mind of a serial killer no matter how good they think they covered their tracks. :mad:

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True point Slinky, they did try to associate yesterday these murders with the few simular unsolved cases in Norfolk - which isnt so far away, going back 18years upto i think 1997, but difference is the spate of time as this has been rather storming norman quick in such short time, & the fact they think the killer has done this before.

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If that is so then it imperative that they catch the killer fast. Watching the news made me steam a little when a spokesman spouted of about all the help availalble and that they had set up a contingincy fund. Where was this help before this sinister set of events locked up in a cupboard with the instruction to only use in an emergency!!!

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I can understand what you mean! but this is a Emergency really. They could have used these funds on things like ASBO's and things!! but on the scale of things Petty crime and thefts are a everyday thing........Murder on this scale is very much Frightening. The police have already said that it could only be a matter of time until this killer turns to women that are not Sex workers because he is being driven out of the sex worker area because of all the media attention and police in the area.

I say if they had a EMERGENCY fund then NOW is the time to start using and ........ and may I add quickly and wisely.

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It came across to me as though the money was sitting there just in case something like this happened which makes me think they expected it. Almost the same way an earthquake contingency fund is set up. May be I am wrong but thats how it looks to me Its time they took a long hard look at the problem and tried to help these poor unfortunate women remove themselves from the need to run with this lifestyle.

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Sorry I know what you mean but, who says they want to come out of that lifestyle. I mean there are plenty of jobs ( yes I know alot of them are crap if you don't have qualifications) but these women don't want to know because lets face it, it's quick easy money that pays a drug habbit there and then.....not in a weeks time when you have to wait for your wage :(......they have the choice.....but unfortunatly you can't make them do things they don't want to do.

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True point, prostitution is the oldest surviving profession since time began & no doubt will be till no men are left on the planet:rolleyes: so there is no getting rid nor have or any other method of getting shut of it either im afraid.

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anyone else hear the bloke on teh radio calling for licensed brothels and tolerence areas to be set up?

His argument was pretty much what I used in the drug thread, what we've been doing for years aint working and never will, lets try something new.

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Every town in England - with the exception of Accy - has brothels. They go under the name of Massage Parlours, and providing that a) there is no east european style exploitation and violence against the girls, and b) any services other than massage are made as a private arrangement, then the cops will normally leave alone. However, they tend to be fussy about who works there and most of 'em won't have druggies.

I believe at least 2 of the Ipswich prostitutes had worked in such establisments, but got slung out because of their snorting habits. Even if we fully legalised brothels and introduced Dutch-style window shopping, we would still have the dross working the streets.

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The Police have to keep some of the info to themselves to rule out all the nutcases who come forward with false confessions;and all the weirdos,like Wearside Jack. Most serial killers also do a few "practice runs" to perfect their technique, so our friend in Ipswich will probably have had a few cracks at abduction before,maybe not linked as yet or even unreported.

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So they are now saying on the news that the Murderer has in fact taken 6 lives because one of the Girls was pregnant............:(



Awful!!